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It's Time to Junk the Electoral College [Soros alert] [massive barf]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2008-12-15 | Jonathan Soros

Posted on 12/14/2008 6:55:56 PM PST by rabscuttle385

In his election-night victory speech, Barack Obama said he would be a president for all Americans, not just those who voted for him. But as a candidate he didn't campaign with equal vigor for every vote. Instead, he and John McCain devoted more than 98% of their television ad spending and campaign events to just 15 states which together make up about a third of the U.S. population. Today, as the Electoral College votes are cast and counted state-by-state, we will be reminded why. It is the peculiar mechanics of that institution, designed for a different age, that leave us divided into red states, blue states and swing states. That needs to change.

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: constitution; deranged; electoralcollege; globalism; jonathansoros; mobrule; nwo; soros; tryanny
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The Constitution is no longer in line with our expectations regarding the role of the people in selecting the president. Yet several previous attempts to eliminate the Electoral College through a constitutional amendment have failed, scuttled by the difficulty of the process itself and the tyranny of small-state logic.

The demise of the U.S. Constitution is the leftist-globalist wet dream.

1 posted on 12/14/2008 6:55:57 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385
Hmmm.... wonder if Soros is a bit worried about all of these citizenship lawsuits?????
2 posted on 12/14/2008 7:04:30 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Better grab a rag. They are getting close!


3 posted on 12/14/2008 7:05:11 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: rabscuttle385

He thinks he will be president to ALL Americans? Rubbish.

That joker will NEVER be my President.


4 posted on 12/14/2008 7:05:44 PM PST by Concho (Bitterly Clinging to Guns and Religion)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’ve seen it argued that junking the electoral college might actually take the massive power of the big left wing cities away.......Imagine New York City, LA and Chicago, not being the entire voting block of their entire state.


5 posted on 12/14/2008 7:06:25 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: rabscuttle385

The libs hate it because they haven’t figured how to steal electoral votes yet.


6 posted on 12/14/2008 7:07:15 PM PST by Ikemeister
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To: ScreamingFist

If the Electoral College was abolished, the small States would become irrelevant in Presidential elections. Each ticket would solely focus on the States which it is sure to win. That would likely lead to secession movements in most, if not all, of those States. Fortunately, that is why any such proposed Constitutional amendment would never receive 38 ratifications (the number needed for adoption).


7 posted on 12/14/2008 7:12:08 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: rabscuttle385

My guess is they will try to keep “winner take all” in NY and CA and have proportional representation in the Red States.


8 posted on 12/14/2008 7:12:38 PM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: rabscuttle385

What am I missing? I thought Obama won.


9 posted on 12/14/2008 7:13:00 PM PST by stevem
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To: stevem

Perhaps in light of recent events they’re worried he might not be re-elected?


10 posted on 12/14/2008 7:19:56 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (God helps those who help themselves. The government helps those who don't.)
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If the Electoral College was abolished, the small States would become irrelevant in Presidential elections.

Do we not already see this? McCain was already the republican nomination when my state finally voted, and we never saw a presidential candidate here.

11 posted on 12/14/2008 7:20:57 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Repeal 16-17
If the Electoral College was abolished, the small States would become irrelevant in Presidential elections. Each ticket would solely focus on the States which it is sure to win.

As far as I could tell during the 2008 campaign, the only states where McCain campaigned were Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida and Colorado and did not bother the campaign in small states such as Delaware, Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota and Utah.

Furthermore, while McCain only lost the popular vote by 6% but lost the Electoral College by more than 2:1.

Thus as it stands now, the Electoral College favors the Democrats and popular vote would favor Republicans.

12 posted on 12/14/2008 7:24:15 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Ikemeister

Hard to get dead electors to vote?


13 posted on 12/14/2008 7:25:17 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The election and subsequent financial mayhem proves this man correct.

Our Constitution has been neutered.


14 posted on 12/14/2008 7:28:36 PM PST by Coachm
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Thus as it stands now, the Electoral College favors the Democrats and popular vote would favor Republicans.

McCain did not lose because of the Electoral College. He lost because he ran a horribly bad campaign and for being a RINO. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, the Electoral College was to the benefit of George W. Bush. One election does not prove that the Electoral College should be abolished.

15 posted on 12/14/2008 7:29:38 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: ScreamingFist

Regardless, it would mean the small states NEVER get their way as a rule, and they would be angry about it. The proportion of big-city Dem votes would possibly be much more than in electoral. It is electoral which makes them more likely to get something they want, rather than ALWAYS being at the mercy of big cities.

In my state of MD about 10 years ago, legislators from the Eastern Shore threatened to secede (and Western MDers would probably copy them) because it’s always the Baltimore-DCarea vote that wins the state, for every state-based election. This tiny proportion of the state rules the entire landscape, mostly because there is NO electoral-type system. Hence alot of disgruntlement and discontent amongst those who never get their way.


16 posted on 12/14/2008 7:30:08 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Haven’t you heard? The dismantling of our constitution is nothing but a nutjob conspiracy theory. Pay no attention to it.

[/sarc]


17 posted on 12/14/2008 7:30:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Concho

ditto!


18 posted on 12/14/2008 7:30:36 PM PST by Coachm
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To: Repeal 16-17

Small states are already irrelevant in the general election. Unfortunately, many of the large states are as well (California, New York, Illinois). Abolishing the electoral college would force candidates to campaign nationwide. It would allow other coalitions to form, and make the GOTV efforts easier for the minority party in various states.

Perhaps this time Soros is right (hey, a broken clock...)


19 posted on 12/14/2008 7:32:32 PM PST by MS from the OC ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine)
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To: trumandogz

I repeat the poster who replied to you: it was the Electoral system that allowed Bush to win, especially in 2000. Remember how the Dems all wanted it gone because of this 1 instance? (As they always do: react like brats to 1 event - and then screw themselves in the end; to wit, Special Prosecuter, etc.)


20 posted on 12/14/2008 7:32:42 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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