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Supreme Court refuses 2nd challenge to eligibility
World Net Daily ^ | 12/15/08 | World Net Daily

Posted on 12/15/2008 10:35:51 AM PST by joesbucks

The U.S. Supreme Court has rejected a second challenge to the presidency of Barack Obama, announcing today it denied an application for a stay or an injunction in a case from Connecticut.

The case brought by Cort Wrotnowski had been distributed for review by the court and apparently was considered during a conference of the justices Friday.

It met the same fate as an earlier case brought by Leo Donofrio and essentially challenged Obama on the same issue: allegations that dual citizenship based on a father who was a British subject and a mother who was an American minor disqualified him for office under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that presidents be "natural born" citizens.

As is its custom, the Supreme Court made no comment other than to post its decision:

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; birthcertificate; blackhelicopters; certifigate; citizenship; conspiracytheories; dual; fraud; obama; obamabots; obamatruthfile; ostrichcourt; rinobullies; ronpaul; ronpaulnuts; savetheconstitution; tinfoilhats; unconstitutional
Another challenge bites the dust. This was came before Scalia.
1 posted on 12/15/2008 10:35:51 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

It is really a sad state when the ‘top of the hierarchy’ will not even check to see if a candidate is constitutionally viable.


2 posted on 12/15/2008 10:40:50 AM PST by Parmy
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To: joesbucks

Check out this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2149129/posts

Writter claims the court can’t look at the issue until after Congress certifies the EC votes.


3 posted on 12/15/2008 10:42:29 AM PST by stockpirate (Let's start by watering the tree of Liberty with the blood of tyrants.)
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To: joesbucks

So the electoral college will vote today, not knowing for sure the status of Obamas citizenship and elegability. What a lowly state we have come to.


4 posted on 12/15/2008 10:42:45 AM PST by bird4four4 (God Damn America!!! - Mr. Wright, your prayer has been answered 11-4-08)
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To: joesbucks

Its not going to go away.


5 posted on 12/15/2008 10:51:51 AM PST by Leg Olam (I have a dream that one day, chickens can cross roads without having their motives questioned)
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To: joesbucks
"I can't hear yooooooooooou, American people!" - Supreme Court of the United States


6 posted on 12/15/2008 10:53:23 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: stockpirate

Wishful thinking.


7 posted on 12/15/2008 10:54:10 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: joesbucks

When the SCOTUS won’t do its Constitutionally chartered job, when the Congress ignores the will of the people and the POTUS is selectively deaf; When state and local elected government officials are mired in scandal and corruption, is there ANY doubt that our government is irrevocably broken??

Any doubt at all??


8 posted on 12/15/2008 10:55:57 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: joesbucks

It’s not over! There are other cases filed with SCOTUS and in the State courts challenging Obama’s non citizenship.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


9 posted on 12/15/2008 10:56:06 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

Time to get the masses together, numbers always matter. File once case, millions of names.


10 posted on 12/15/2008 10:59:30 AM PST by KellyM37
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To: joesbucks

Once again, as I’ve been saying all along...


The problem is...

Bush and the Bush Administration wants nothing to do with this issue, Vice President Cheney wants nothing to do or say about this issue, McCain and his previous campaign wants nothing to do with this issue, Governor Palin wants nothing to do with this issue and is looking forward to working with Obama, the Republican Party wants nothing to do with this issue, even Rush Limbaugh wants nothing to do with this issue, many other conservative websites want nothing to do with this issue, many here on Free Republic want nothing to do with this issue — and (of course) — the Democrats want nothing to do with this issue, along with Obama wanting nothing to do with this issue. Even the FBI wants nothing to do with it...

When you can get none of your own people in positions of authority to do something about the issue, you are *dead in the water*... And that’s the way it is right now...

And now — today — US Supreme Court — “Denied...” (with *no comment*)


11 posted on 12/15/2008 11:04:26 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: bird4four4
So the electoral college will vote today, not knowing for sure the status of Obamas citizenship and elegability [sic]. What a lowly state we have come to.

We must push for laws in each state that a candidate's eligibility must be certified before being placed on the ballot. This must be done by an elected official of the state NOT A POLITICAL PARTY.

12 posted on 12/15/2008 11:04:26 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (NO Kenyan Usurpers in the White House - NObama ! WE WILL TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: joesbucks

Wow. What a shocker./sarcasm


13 posted on 12/15/2008 11:11:12 AM PST by curiosity
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To: real_patriotic_american
It’s not over!

You tinfoil hatters will continue submitting cases, and SCOTUS will continue turning them down. The only thing you will have accomplished is to waste a lot of time.

Have fun.

14 posted on 12/15/2008 11:13:07 AM PST by curiosity
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To: joesbucks
I purchase my first ever copy of Globe in the grocery store this morning - Headline: "OBAMA ELECTION ILLEGAL! Shocking charges threaten his Presidency: o He wasn't born in U.S., o Birth Certificate is FORGED.

Saving it for posterity.

Does anyone honestly think, after everyone ignoring this before the election, during the election, and post election prior to electoral college votes, THAT SOMETHING WILL REALLY HAPPEN AFTER HE IS SWORN IN AND IT THE ILLEGAL OATH BECOMES KNOWN? Nothing will happen unless another country challenges and Agreement or Treaty, then SCOTUS will have to get involved. You all know how SCOTUS would rule, because they would be culpable if they ruled AGAINST a legal Obama.

IT IS OVER.
15 posted on 12/15/2008 11:14:36 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: joesbucks

The World Nut Daily thing is pretty snarky, why is that on the front page?


16 posted on 12/15/2008 11:18:44 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: real_patriotic_american

It’s dead, Jim.


17 posted on 12/15/2008 11:20:23 AM PST by Rockitz (NObama 2008- Strange we ain't believin')
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To: joesbucks

The supremes should all be lined up put in public stocks and had rotten produce thrown at them.
I say that only because I can’t say what I’d really like to see happen to them all.


18 posted on 12/15/2008 11:32:31 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: joesbucks
Imagine for a moment that the shoe was on the other foot. That it was a Republican who had won the election but had refused to provide proof of being eligible for the office. It doesn't take much imagination to know what the response of the Dems would be!
19 posted on 12/15/2008 11:32:44 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: joesbucks

I never did read about the dismissal of Leo Donofrio ??


20 posted on 12/15/2008 11:39:00 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: jwparkerjr

If it was a Republican and I had any doubt I would want him to prove who he is.

“Shall the man who has practised corruption & by that means procured his appointment in the first instance, be suffered to escape punishment, by repeating his guilt?”

Like Obama, I too was adopted at the age of 7 along with my brother and sister, when I was seven. My background is nearly identical to Obama’s except that my adoption took place in two states and I have known my real father and all my relatives all my life.

I too looked into changing my last name back to my original and I am very familiar with the process of adoption, records and the amount work and paper work that would go into something like this.

I don’t understand why there is no microfiche evidence of this guy anywhere. He did, after all, go to college in two states and has lived in at 4 of the 57 states.

If Obama changed his name to suit the identity he wanted then there should be plenty of records to indicate that.

Obama has access to the actual BC when he was born under whatever name that was.

Upon his adoption by his mother’s second husband Obama’s original BC was sealed as his old identity no longer existed in the eyes of the law.

His adoption in Indonesia created a huge paper trail between two countries, the State of Hawaii and local government where is stepfather lived. He was issued a new BC and both governments created records of equal value and weight in term of his new identity under the law.

His mother would have to present his original BC for the adoption to take place. Where are those copies?

Was the BC with is new identity Barry Sotero issued by Indonesia? Where is that new BC with Lolo listed as his father?

Upon Barry Sotero’s return to the US he reached the age of emancipation and change his name to Barack Obama.

When did he do that? What was the legal process? He would have to notify multiple government agencies and this would have cost a tidy sum.

This process does not change your BC of adoption. In this case Barry Sotero. It only changes your name as you are not being adopted by anyone and the government is not developing a legal document of lawful parentage.

You are changing your name only.

Here is the rub, the copy of the BC you are seeing online is or could be issued to valid BC holders and might be the short form in lieu of a deep record search.

In other words the BC is a fraud. In order for Barack Obama to show a BC that contains his name of Barack Obama and his father and mother as we know it, the state of Hawaii would only have a long form document.

Barack Obama has access to his original BC before he was born but it is no longer valid. He can present either the short form, which many of us have seen or present the long form but they are not valid.

You... cannot change your adoption records or the alteration of those records for the purpose of adoption.

You can call yourself John Wayne and even legally change your name. But, your birth certificate will still say you are Marion Robert Morrison, born in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.


21 posted on 12/15/2008 12:22:30 PM PST by Vendome
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To: jwparkerjr

If it was a Republican and I had any doubt I would want him to prove who he is.

“Shall the man who has practised corruption & by that means procured his appointment in the first instance, be suffered to escape punishment, by repeating his guilt?”

Like Obama, I too was adopted at the age of 7 along with my brother and sister, when I was seven. My background is nearly identical to Obama’s except that my adoption took place in two states and I have known my real father and all my relatives all my life.

I too looked into changing my last name back to my original and I am very familiar with the process of adoption, records and the amount work and paper work that would go into something like this.

I don’t understand why there is no microfiche evidence of this guy anywhere. He did, after all, go to college in two states and has lived in 4 of the 57 states.

If Obama changed his name to suit the identity he wanted then there should be plenty of records to indicate that.

Obama has access to the actual BC when he was born under whatever name that was.

Upon his adoption by his mother’s second husband Obama’s original BC was sealed as his old identity no longer existed in the eyes of the law.

His adoption in Indonesia created a huge paper trail between two countries, the State of Hawaii and local government where is stepfather lived. He was issued a new BC and both governments created records of equal value and weight in term of his new identity under the law.

His mother would have to present his original BC for the adoption to take place. Where are those copies?

Was the BC with is new identity Barry Sotero issued by Indonesia? Where is that new BC with Lolo listed as his father?

Upon Barry Sotero’s return to the US he reached the age of emancipation and change his name to Barack Obama.

When did he do that? What was the legal process? He would have to notify multiple government agencies and this would have cost a tidy sum.

This process does not change your BC of adoption. In this case Barry Sotero. It only changes your name as you are not being adopted by anyone and the government is not developing a legal document of lawful parentage.

You are changing your name only.

Here is the rub, the copy of the BC you are seeing online is or could be issued to valid BC holders and might be the short form in lieu of a deep record search.

In other words the BC is a fraud. In order for Barack Obama to show a BC that contains his name of Barack Obama and his father and mother as we know it, the state of Hawaii would only have a long form document.

Barack Obama has access to his original BC before he was born but it is no longer valid. He can present either the short form, which many of us have seen or present the long form but they are not valid.

You... cannot change your adoption records or the alteration of those records for the purpose of adoption.

You can call yourself John Wayne and even legally change your name. But, your birth certificate will still say you are Marion Robert Morrison, born in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.


22 posted on 12/15/2008 12:22:43 PM PST by Vendome
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To: joesbucks

the US Constitution has only 3 requirements for anyone that wishes to assume the office of the President.

1. get more votes then anyone in the general election
2. be 35 years old
3. be a NATURAL BORN US citizen

asking for proof of eligibility is more then reasonable and the RIGHT of EVERY American.

the fact that there has been a concerted effort to avoid providing such proof is becoming more of the issue.


23 posted on 12/15/2008 12:25:57 PM PST by sten
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To: Vendome

All good points. Come to think of it, have we ever seen any paperwork regarding his adoption by his mother’s husband? Seems like those documents would have something pertinent to the controversy.

The biggest gotcha in the whole thing to me remains he refusal to simply document that he is indeed eligible for the office. If it’s a clear as he and his supporters claim then it should a very simple matter to prove it. Failing in that I am just skeptic enough to wonder what’s going on!

I find the absolute lack of any information about this man’s earlier life to be quite perplexing. I am not a conspiratorial nut, but my common sense sure does make me wonder what’s going on. As a rule I wouldn’t care a whole lot, but since he’s taking on the most powerful position in the free world I think we are entitled to some answers.


24 posted on 12/15/2008 12:30:34 PM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: Parmy
It is really a sad state when the ‘top of the hierarchy’ will not even check to see if a candidate is constitutionally viable.

The court is so busy with important items like this:

Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 2:01:49 PM by Zakeet

,,,,Monday when the justices ruled that the companies can be sued by smokers who contend they were deceived by advertisements promoting “light” cigarettes. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2149172/posts

Sad to say they are too busy to rule if a candidate for POTUS is constitutionally viable.

25 posted on 12/15/2008 2:00:57 PM PST by TYVets
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To: joesbucks

What is 0bama hiding?


26 posted on 12/15/2008 2:14:53 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: KellyM37

I’m not giving up and am spreading the word where I can.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


27 posted on 12/15/2008 4:01:32 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

There is nothing in the constitution that prevents someone from running for office if they aren’t qualified to serve.
The constitution says the you must be natural born to serve as President. He has only served in the office of President-elect(sarcasm/)

Once he takes the oath of office he has officially committed fraud and violated the constitution. He will have knowingly violated it. I think that the first Executive order he signs, or the first bill he signs, there will be plenty of people that can say they have standing because it will directly affect them.
I remember during the campaign finance fiasco they wouldn’t hear the case because no one had been hurt by it yet.


28 posted on 12/15/2008 8:30:48 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: Vendome

Yea the reason he has successfully avoided it is he started years ago erasing his identity. Funny, most people go about creating one, he erases his. I think that the reason he will not allow any of his school records to be released is because he went to college on a scholarship as a foreigner. They were giving out scholarships to Africans to help the countries fight poverty. He took advantage of it and doesn’t want anyone to know.
He either fraudulantly went to school or fraudulantly ran for President.


29 posted on 12/15/2008 8:36:03 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: ODDITHER

I’m with you. If Obama takes the oath knowing that he is not eligible to serve as President, it would be considered a perjured oath.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


30 posted on 12/16/2008 4:48:40 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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