Posted on 12/15/2008 4:28:56 PM PST by wagglebee
Amen!
Yeah...if you have two kids and get pregnant with a third, isn't it a sacrifice for the sake of the family to abort child #3? The other two children will be able to go to nicer schools and such.
Or what if a mom gets breast cancer when her kids are in their teen years. If she chooses treatment the family may have to drain their savings (intended for college tuition) to fund it. Instead, she could just choose assisted suicide right after the diagnosis. Sure, she might have survived the cancer, but this way no matter what the final outcome would have been, her kids will get to go to a good school.
That's the same as jumping on a grenade to save a comrade, right, buddy?
All of this would be funny except for the fact that we are talking about human life here. When the Germans accepted twisted logic like this in the 1930s, Western Civilization was nearly destroyed.
Yeah, not funny at all...which is why I seldom use sarcasm except when I discuss politics.
By your twisted logic, 3500 American women are "sacrificing" their children each day in abortuaries. They are doing this to save money, because children are expensive.Sacrificing oneself is a wholly different matter than sacrificing someone else .
When you and your ilk decide that human sacrifice for financial reasons is acceptable, it is only a small step to make it involuntary.
So, the second scenario I presented in post 82 would be acceptable? If not, why not?
Excellent point. Encouraging or aiding anyone to commit suicide is a terrible moral crime. Terrible easy to push a depressed or hopeless person over the edge. If instead, the suffering person recieved kindness, help and love many who might choose death, will choose life.
So, the second scenario I presented in post 82 would be acceptable? If not, why not?Because it involves sacrificing someone else .
Can you read?
I said the SECOND SCENARIO in post 82. I'll post it again:
Or what if a mom gets breast cancer when her kids are in their teen years? If she chooses treatment the family may have to drain their savings (intended for college tuition) to fund it. Instead, she could just choose assisted suicide right after the diagnosis. Sure, she might have survived the cancer, but this way no matter what the final outcome would have been, her kids will get to go to a good school.
Would that be acceptable? If not, why not?
If she chooses suicide, she should do it herself. No assistance.
Then why are you on this thread pushing your "suicide for the good of the collective" agenda?
ALL we is euthanasia/assisted suicide. It is axiomatic that a person has the ability (which some would label "right") to kill themself. We are discussing medical involvement in a person's death.
Wow! Most of us don’t think of our mothers that way. How sad for you.
As a rule, the average person will have more money upon retirement or soon thereafter than they will for the rest of their lives -- obviously there are exceptions to this, but this is the norm.
Using the "logic" proposed in this thread, a person should work as hard as they can, as long as they can and spend as little as they can on themselves. Then, when either can't work or can't earn enough money to support themselves on a day-to-day basis, they should kill themselves. Forget about enjoying retirement, you need to die for the "common good." What is being proposed here is textbook Marxism (yes, in case there was ANY confusion, I called the person who supports the suicide-wealth redistribution agenda a MARXIST).
Is she making a noble sacrifice for the beenfit of her family, like a soldier faling on a grenade to save his comrades? If not, why not?
Suicide is a violent act. I thought violent posts were against Free Republic guidelines. Those advocating suicide here are advocating violence. Why aren’t their posts deleted?
You seemed so full of conviction, dbz.
And yet, you also seem to be dodging my question. It's been 5 days since I posted it and you've visited a number of threads and left comments since then.
So, unless this...
...is your current position, here's a reminder of what I asked:
Is she making a noble sacrifice for the benefit of her family, like a soldier faling on a grenade to save his comrades? If not, why not?
Now, how about an answer?
For the same reason they have a bin fulll of baby shoes at the Auschwitz museum.
Perhaps one of his comrades at an anti-FReeper site warned him about the “Grand Inquisitor.”
We seem to get a fair number of deathbots who come and make a lot of noise for a week or two and then drop out of sight.
LOL!
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