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New Audio and Video: Jim Jones & Jonestown dying for Marxist-Leninsm
Audio & Video Tapes from Jonestown ^ | Chuck Noblett

Posted on 12/15/2008 10:33:00 PM PST by ChuckNoblett

Some interesting new audio and video of Jim Jones and the citizens of Jonestown doing, among other things, declaring that their "Revolutionary Suicide" is to further the cause of Marxist-Leninism.

They took a vote three weeks before Ryan arrived and unanimously voted for it. It includes some video of members specifically discussing dying for Maxist-Leninism.

Also, unseen VIDEO (not just audio) of the various members singing the Soviet National Anthem (note: I actually have them doing this 2 times all the way through and the third time for just the last part of the song).

Also includes more previously heard audio, such as Jim's decision in the 1950s that "How Can I demonstate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."

Also, Jim declaring a day before Ryan arrives that he's not going to let the opportunity slip by to shoot Ryan. Note that the video contains excepts of Jim using quite a bit of salty language (he cussed worse than any Marine), including the N-word, which Jim used repeatedly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRGtGmPMGJ8


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; cults; jonestown; marxism; marxists; socialism; videotape

1 posted on 12/15/2008 10:33:00 PM PST by ChuckNoblett
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To: ChuckNoblett

CREEPY to say the least


2 posted on 12/15/2008 10:34:10 PM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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To: Impy

*ping*


3 posted on 12/15/2008 10:34:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ChuckNoblett

...Jones was much more than a face in a photo-op. Democratic San Francisco Mayor George Moscone appointed him to the city’s housing authority. Willie Brown, who later served as Democratic Speaker of the California Assembly, in 1976 introduced Jones as a combination Martin Luther King, Angela Davis, Albert Einstein and Chairman Mao.

That same year Senator Walter Mondale, later elected vice president, invited Jones to meet with him on his campaign plane. The People’s Temple chief also had a personal meeting with Jimmy Carter’s wife, Rosalynn.

Jones referenced that in 1977 when he wrote to the First Lady and recommended the U.S. government give Cuba medical supplies. He mentioned his “deep appreciation for the privilege of dining privately with you prior to the election.” She replied by saying she’d enjoyed the experience and hoped the U.S. would adopt his suggestion on Cuba.

When Jones moved his operation to Guyana, he brought with him written accolades from several liberal Democrats.

Wrote Walter Mondale: “Knowing of your congregation’s deep involvement in the major social and constitutional issues of our country is a great inspiration to me.”

Alaska Senator Mike Gravel thought the People’s Temple “was almost too good to be true.” California Congressman Don Edwards expressed the wish that “there were more like the people of the People’s Temple Christian Church.”

Joseph Califano, an official in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations and secretary of health, education and welfare for Jimmy Carter wrote Jones: “Knowing your commitment and compassion, your interest in protecting individual liberty and freedom have made an outstanding contribution to furthering the cause of human dignity.”

Former Vice President Hubert Humphrey said that Jones’ work “is testimony to the positive and truly Christian approach to dealing with the myriad problems confronting our society today.”

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/michael-m-bates/2008/11/14/cnns-escape-jonestown-downplays-democratic-connections


4 posted on 12/15/2008 10:43:37 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: wac3rd

Too bad those assholes didn’t drink the koolaid too.


5 posted on 12/15/2008 10:47:51 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: ChuckNoblett
Did you see the Che poster in the office of the shoe tosser? These nut cases are all alike.
6 posted on 12/15/2008 10:54:42 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: randomhero97

What people don’t understand is that far Left policies end up being is totalitarism, not freedom.

Charity via taxes, no ownership of private property, political prisoners, food shortages, censorship, quotas vs. achievement, hatred of religion, praise of all things deviant, confiscation of guns, hamstringing business, faux global warming hysteria, controlled schools, appeasment of killers...

We may face a second revolution in our lifetimes if the nation is to survive the Commies, they are not only in Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea...they live in newspapers, TV, radio, magazines, statehouses, Congress and soon in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


7 posted on 12/15/2008 10:57:02 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: ChuckNoblett

UGGGH!


8 posted on 12/15/2008 10:59:03 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: wac3rd
Obama cult one Pictures, Images and PhotosObama cult two Pictures, Images and Photos
9 posted on 12/15/2008 11:00:49 PM PST by redstateconfidential (" An American Idol President")
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To: ChuckNoblett

WOW! I wonder why we never heard about this. Jim Jones pretty much had the keys to the city of San Francisco in the 70s. Willie Brown, Harvey Milk and Governor Moonbeam all were very supportive of Jones. They are all on the left politically. Jones was an avowed Marxist.

Again I ask, why didn’t we hear anything about his radical leftist ideology? This nutcase even admitted that he had become an athiest. The MSM did not cover that reality, even after he lead his flock into mass suicide.

If you have ever needed an example of the bias of the MSM, this is it. San Francisco has become an abominable sewer. I feel sorry for the good people who live there. There must be some there. I guess they are just outvoted all the time.


10 posted on 12/15/2008 11:01:44 PM PST by SkipW
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To: redstateconfidential

The King Maggot.


11 posted on 12/15/2008 11:03:58 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: ChuckNoblett
I always felt that the whole People's Temple 'thing' was some kind of sick human experiment and Jim Jones was chosen by the backers of the experiment as the perfect catalyst. Too many government officials ect were egging Jones on to go to the next level.... But what do I know.... ;)

RIP Leo Ryan

12 posted on 12/15/2008 11:05:43 PM PST by BossLady (Ok Everybody......Get Ready For ......'THE MOOD RING PRESIDENCY'......)
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To: SkipW

I work there and saw Moonbeam in a grocery store in Oakland.

They still love their commies as the illegal gang and inner-city murder increase every year in the Bay Area.

Denial and praise of the anti-American position was, is and always will be part of the San Francisco “Values” system of Marxism they love.


13 posted on 12/15/2008 11:06:21 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: ChuckNoblett

Jim Jones offered change, and his followers believed in it.


14 posted on 12/15/2008 11:09:30 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: ChuckNoblett

Fast track communism eh? Cut out the middle man and kill yourself.


15 posted on 12/16/2008 12:01:33 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: ChuckNoblett

16 posted on 12/16/2008 12:46:13 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Domangart

I saw that story about the shoe tosser with the Che poster in the background. A tipoff to us all that this guy was a Communist out to hate America with his shoes.


17 posted on 12/16/2008 12:57:07 AM PST by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: wac3rd

What people don’t understand is that far Left policies end up being is totalitarism, not freedom.


Right, scratch a Democrat and you’ll find a Commie.


18 posted on 12/16/2008 1:11:25 AM PST by FFranco
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To: wac3rd
"The People’s Temple chief also had a personal meeting with Jimmy Carter’s wife, Rosalynn." And here's the pic. gacy-carter Oh wait, that's Rosalynn with that other mass murder, Gacy.
19 posted on 12/16/2008 1:27:46 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: BossLady
I always felt that the whole People's Temple 'thing' was some kind of sick human experiment and Jim Jones was chosen by the backers of the experiment as the perfect catalyst. Too many government officials ect were egging Jones on to go to the next level.... But what do I know.... ;)

Many people don't realize that he was an anti-suicide activist, too. On Memorial Day in 1977, shortly before going to Jonestown, he held a demonstration in support of an anti-suicide barrier on the Golden Gate Bridge. But there's foreshadowing in some of his remarks...

'Suicide is a symptom of an uncaring society ... The suicide is the victim of conditions we cannot tolerate and ... (pause) ... I guess that was Freudian because I meant to say which he cannot tolerate, which overwhelm him, for which there is no recourse ... I have been in a suicidal mood myself today for perhaps the first time in my life, so I have personal empathy for what we are doing here today. Thank you.'
Incidentally, two months ago, the Golden Gate Bridge directors just passed a vote to install a $40-50 million stainless-steel net. They totally ignored the polls and taxpayers' wishes, and held a surprise vote, two weeks early. "Our next big challenge is to come up with the money," [Mary Currie, bridge district spokeswoman] said.


20 posted on 12/16/2008 2:21:31 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: ChuckNoblett

Yes they did.


21 posted on 12/16/2008 2:45:55 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: redstateconfidential
who is that?

thanks

22 posted on 12/16/2008 2:49:51 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: SkipW

My father-in-law was a religion reporter for the San Francisco Examiner back in 1972 and tried to expose Jones when he was in Ukiah. Out of eight stories, only four ran, the others were not published after the Temple protested outside the newspaper. To this day, the Chronicle (which replaced the Examiner) nor most of the MSM will not own up to this, nor admit that anyone prior to 1977 tried to expose Jones before he went to the jungle and killed all those people.


23 posted on 12/16/2008 4:23:21 AM PST by stratman1969 ("That One" Will Never Be My President)
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To: SkipW

The San Francisco Chronicle’s Marshall Kilduff tried to publish his expose on the Temple in 1976.

One problem: The Paper’s City Editor (Steve Gavin) that had been blocking his publication actually turned out to be a People’s Temple member!

The entire affair is almost too bizarre to fathom.


24 posted on 12/16/2008 4:59:32 AM PST by ChuckNoblett
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To: wac3rd

I never knew all this about these people, or Jones. Hmmmm.


25 posted on 12/16/2008 4:59:54 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: ChuckNoblett

Remember the Obama little kids ‘Obama’s going to change the world “ song??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtGrp5MbzAI


26 posted on 12/16/2008 5:03:11 AM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: wac3rd

Regarding the newsbusters article above, I should add that it the video I posted also contains a little snippet of a rarely seen color video of Jones and Rosalynn Carter standing on stage together shaking hands at a political rally.

I also have the copy of the Jones and Rosalynn Carter correspondence and the audio of Rosalynn calling Jim on the phone (which the Peoples Temple recorded), but it’s not in this video.

Also note regarding the above that Jones didn’t just bring those accolades to Guyana with them, but showed them to several people to impress them. Including the USSR embassy in Georgetown. They showed them pictures of Jim with Mondale and Fidel Castro, and Rosalynn’s handwritten note to Jim (along with other items) to impress the Soviets. It worked. As you can hear some of the audio of the Soviets’ subsequent delegation to Jonestown in the video I just linked.


27 posted on 12/16/2008 5:21:39 AM PST by ChuckNoblett
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Random Obama worshiper on tha net.I think the post on 11 describes it best


28 posted on 12/16/2008 6:12:15 AM PST by redstateconfidential (" An American Idol President")
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To: redstateconfidential

Creepy..they could be brothers they look so much alike.


29 posted on 12/16/2008 6:38:13 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: onedoug

ping


30 posted on 12/16/2008 6:47:32 AM PST by windcliff
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To: windcliff

damned dimocrats


31 posted on 12/16/2008 7:33:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Gondring
"..Golden Gate Bridge directors just passed a vote to install a $40-50 million stainless-steel net."

Simpler and cheaper solution:


32 posted on 12/16/2008 9:21:05 AM PST by TXnMA (Chief Justice: "To administer this oath would violate my oath to uphold the Constitution.")
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To: redstateconfidential
oh I get it... sorry I am slow sometimes.

thanks

33 posted on 12/16/2008 1:11:23 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: PistolPaknMama

The real, or more largely accurate, story about the Peoples Temple’s long history and goals is coming out with the wider release of their tapes and documents.

They were rather radical communists and atheists that had used the old Pentecostal recruiting methods Jim had observed in his rural Indiana childhood to recruit newbies to the cause. They also employed organized weekly bus trips to places where they conducted fake faith healings for the locals and sold “blessed” prayer cloths to try to raise money. While this was overtly dishonest, especially given their atheist beliefs, they pretty brazenly employed an ends-justify-the-means decision-making process. If selling fake hopes or even beating members to enforce discipline would make their utopian vision for humanity more likely in 100 years, then it was worth doing. People being out a little money or hurting a bit was a small price to pay, so the reasoning goes.


34 posted on 12/16/2008 3:58:23 PM PST by ChuckNoblett
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To: ChuckNoblett

Advancing the cause of revolution is their morality-the justification they use for every atrocity, every abomination.


35 posted on 12/16/2008 6:44:30 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: redstateconfidential

Man boobs.


36 posted on 12/17/2008 2:19:06 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: redstateconfidential

Man boobs alert!


37 posted on 12/17/2008 2:22:42 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Revolutionary suicide.. So what they though troops were coming. Or was it purely Little Stalin’s psychosis?

That music from One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest....creepy.


38 posted on 12/17/2008 2:29:19 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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