Posted on 12/15/2008 10:33:00 PM PST by ChuckNoblett
Some interesting new audio and video of Jim Jones and the citizens of Jonestown doing, among other things, declaring that their "Revolutionary Suicide" is to further the cause of Marxist-Leninism.
They took a vote three weeks before Ryan arrived and unanimously voted for it. It includes some video of members specifically discussing dying for Maxist-Leninism.
Also, unseen VIDEO (not just audio) of the various members singing the Soviet National Anthem (note: I actually have them doing this 2 times all the way through and the third time for just the last part of the song).
Also includes more previously heard audio, such as Jim's decision in the 1950s that "How Can I demonstate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."
Also, Jim declaring a day before Ryan arrives that he's not going to let the opportunity slip by to shoot Ryan. Note that the video contains excepts of Jim using quite a bit of salty language (he cussed worse than any Marine), including the N-word, which Jim used repeatedly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRGtGmPMGJ8
CREEPY to say the least
*ping*
...Jones was much more than a face in a photo-op. Democratic San Francisco Mayor George Moscone appointed him to the city’s housing authority. Willie Brown, who later served as Democratic Speaker of the California Assembly, in 1976 introduced Jones as a combination Martin Luther King, Angela Davis, Albert Einstein and Chairman Mao.
That same year Senator Walter Mondale, later elected vice president, invited Jones to meet with him on his campaign plane. The People’s Temple chief also had a personal meeting with Jimmy Carter’s wife, Rosalynn.
Jones referenced that in 1977 when he wrote to the First Lady and recommended the U.S. government give Cuba medical supplies. He mentioned his “deep appreciation for the privilege of dining privately with you prior to the election.” She replied by saying she’d enjoyed the experience and hoped the U.S. would adopt his suggestion on Cuba.
When Jones moved his operation to Guyana, he brought with him written accolades from several liberal Democrats.
Wrote Walter Mondale: “Knowing of your congregation’s deep involvement in the major social and constitutional issues of our country is a great inspiration to me.”
Alaska Senator Mike Gravel thought the People’s Temple “was almost too good to be true.” California Congressman Don Edwards expressed the wish that “there were more like the people of the People’s Temple Christian Church.”
Joseph Califano, an official in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations and secretary of health, education and welfare for Jimmy Carter wrote Jones: “Knowing your commitment and compassion, your interest in protecting individual liberty and freedom have made an outstanding contribution to furthering the cause of human dignity.”
Former Vice President Hubert Humphrey said that Jones’ work “is testimony to the positive and truly Christian approach to dealing with the myriad problems confronting our society today.”
Too bad those assholes didn’t drink the koolaid too.
What people don’t understand is that far Left policies end up being is totalitarism, not freedom.
Charity via taxes, no ownership of private property, political prisoners, food shortages, censorship, quotas vs. achievement, hatred of religion, praise of all things deviant, confiscation of guns, hamstringing business, faux global warming hysteria, controlled schools, appeasment of killers...
We may face a second revolution in our lifetimes if the nation is to survive the Commies, they are not only in Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea...they live in newspapers, TV, radio, magazines, statehouses, Congress and soon in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
UGGGH!
WOW! I wonder why we never heard about this. Jim Jones pretty much had the keys to the city of San Francisco in the 70s. Willie Brown, Harvey Milk and Governor Moonbeam all were very supportive of Jones. They are all on the left politically. Jones was an avowed Marxist.
Again I ask, why didn’t we hear anything about his radical leftist ideology? This nutcase even admitted that he had become an athiest. The MSM did not cover that reality, even after he lead his flock into mass suicide.
If you have ever needed an example of the bias of the MSM, this is it. San Francisco has become an abominable sewer. I feel sorry for the good people who live there. There must be some there. I guess they are just outvoted all the time.
The King Maggot.
RIP Leo Ryan
I work there and saw Moonbeam in a grocery store in Oakland.
They still love their commies as the illegal gang and inner-city murder increase every year in the Bay Area.
Denial and praise of the anti-American position was, is and always will be part of the San Francisco “Values” system of Marxism they love.
Jim Jones offered change, and his followers believed in it.
Fast track communism eh? Cut out the middle man and kill yourself.
I saw that story about the shoe tosser with the Che poster in the background. A tipoff to us all that this guy was a Communist out to hate America with his shoes.
What people don’t understand is that far Left policies end up being is totalitarism, not freedom.
Right, scratch a Democrat and you’ll find a Commie.
Oh wait, that's Rosalynn with that other mass murder, Gacy.
Many people don't realize that he was an anti-suicide activist, too. On Memorial Day in 1977, shortly before going to Jonestown, he held a demonstration in support of an anti-suicide barrier on the Golden Gate Bridge. But there's foreshadowing in some of his remarks...
'Suicide is a symptom of an uncaring society ... The suicide is the victim of conditions we cannot tolerate and ... (pause) ... I guess that was Freudian because I meant to say which he cannot tolerate, which overwhelm him, for which there is no recourse ... I have been in a suicidal mood myself today for perhaps the first time in my life, so I have personal empathy for what we are doing here today. Thank you.'Incidentally, two months ago, the Golden Gate Bridge directors just passed a vote to install a $40-50 million stainless-steel net. They totally ignored the polls and taxpayers' wishes, and held a surprise vote, two weeks early. "Our next big challenge is to come up with the money," [Mary Currie, bridge district spokeswoman] said.
Yes they did.
thanks
My father-in-law was a religion reporter for the San Francisco Examiner back in 1972 and tried to expose Jones when he was in Ukiah. Out of eight stories, only four ran, the others were not published after the Temple protested outside the newspaper. To this day, the Chronicle (which replaced the Examiner) nor most of the MSM will not own up to this, nor admit that anyone prior to 1977 tried to expose Jones before he went to the jungle and killed all those people.
The San Francisco Chronicle’s Marshall Kilduff tried to publish his expose on the Temple in 1976.
One problem: The Paper’s City Editor (Steve Gavin) that had been blocking his publication actually turned out to be a People’s Temple member!
The entire affair is almost too bizarre to fathom.
I never knew all this about these people, or Jones. Hmmmm.
Remember the Obama little kids ‘Obama’s going to change the world “ song??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtGrp5MbzAI
Regarding the newsbusters article above, I should add that it the video I posted also contains a little snippet of a rarely seen color video of Jones and Rosalynn Carter standing on stage together shaking hands at a political rally.
I also have the copy of the Jones and Rosalynn Carter correspondence and the audio of Rosalynn calling Jim on the phone (which the Peoples Temple recorded), but it’s not in this video.
Also note regarding the above that Jones didn’t just bring those accolades to Guyana with them, but showed them to several people to impress them. Including the USSR embassy in Georgetown. They showed them pictures of Jim with Mondale and Fidel Castro, and Rosalynn’s handwritten note to Jim (along with other items) to impress the Soviets. It worked. As you can hear some of the audio of the Soviets’ subsequent delegation to Jonestown in the video I just linked.
Random Obama worshiper on tha net.I think the post on 11 describes it best
Creepy..they could be brothers they look so much alike.
ping
damned dimocrats
Simpler and cheaper solution:
thanks
The real, or more largely accurate, story about the Peoples Temple’s long history and goals is coming out with the wider release of their tapes and documents.
They were rather radical communists and atheists that had used the old Pentecostal recruiting methods Jim had observed in his rural Indiana childhood to recruit newbies to the cause. They also employed organized weekly bus trips to places where they conducted fake faith healings for the locals and sold “blessed” prayer cloths to try to raise money. While this was overtly dishonest, especially given their atheist beliefs, they pretty brazenly employed an ends-justify-the-means decision-making process. If selling fake hopes or even beating members to enforce discipline would make their utopian vision for humanity more likely in 100 years, then it was worth doing. People being out a little money or hurting a bit was a small price to pay, so the reasoning goes.
Advancing the cause of revolution is their morality-the justification they use for every atrocity, every abomination.
Man boobs.
Man boobs alert!
Revolutionary suicide.. So what they though troops were coming. Or was it purely Little Stalin’s psychosis?
That music from One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest....creepy.
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