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After 130 years, Sally Army told to stop rattling tins because it might 'offend other religions'
DailyMail ^ | 12/15/08 | Paul Harris

Posted on 12/16/2008 10:07:47 AM PST by Sammy67

For 130 years they have been part of Christmas, filling the air in towns across the land with music and carols.

But one thing is missing from the repertoire of Salvation Army bands this year - the percussion of rattling tins.

Members have been forbidden to shake their charity tins - even if it's done in time to the music - in case it harasses or intimidates people. One said she had been told it might also offend other religions.

Tin man: Salvation Army collectors have been told not to rattle their tins as it could be construed as religious harassment Guidelines for branches organising public collections say tinholders should simply keep the tin still.

It means that when the brass bands start up they can rock and roll all they want - but if they shake and rattle, it could put them in conflict with the law.

Councils and police can enforce the no-rattle rule and have powers to prosecute or ban offenders. The restriction was branded 'bonkers' yesterday both by

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: charities; christians; christmas; england; holiday; intimidation; islam; liberals; mohammedanism; mohammedanism1208; mohammedanism122008; mosque; muslim; pc; religion; salvationarmy; stealthjihad; uk; unitedkingdon; war
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1 posted on 12/16/2008 10:07:47 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

1984 was late by a few decades.


2 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:28 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Sammy67

Huh? How can shaking cans offend anyone?


3 posted on 12/16/2008 10:09:30 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Sammy67
Political correctness says you can't celebrate Christmas because Muslims might be offended. Go figure.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 12/16/2008 10:10:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sammy67

Yeah, I bet they still allow the Muslim’s call to prayer.


5 posted on 12/16/2008 10:10:49 AM PST by PrairieRoot (Here's hoping Global Warning extends the hunting and logging seasons.)
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To: Sammy67
Subjugated by our own stupidity - Shish!
6 posted on 12/16/2008 10:10:53 AM PST by Lyantana (A Southern View)
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To: Sammy67
"Members have been forbidden to shake their charity tins - even if it's done in time to the music - in case it harasses or intimidates people. One said she had been told it might also offend other religions."

And what of the street vendors on many corners in NYC with Islamic music blasting from their boom boxes?

Is anyone telling them to turn off the music because it may be offensive to some who lost loved ones in the Islamist attack of 9/11?

7 posted on 12/16/2008 10:11:08 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Sammy67

Great Britain is toast...


8 posted on 12/16/2008 10:11:24 AM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: Sammy67

I am offended by some pagans pointing all the butts up in the air in unison and howling at the moon five times a day.


9 posted on 12/16/2008 10:11:32 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Sammy67

It’s England ... hasn’t hit the US .... yet ....England has become Englandistan ....


10 posted on 12/16/2008 10:12:06 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Sammy67

I look forward to the UK’s next version of Guy Fawkes day.


11 posted on 12/16/2008 10:12:12 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Sammy67

The English can’t sell themselves out to the muslim hordes fast enough.


12 posted on 12/16/2008 10:13:09 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Eric Arthur Blair is constantly gaining my admiration. His life was a great contribution to humanity.


13 posted on 12/16/2008 10:13:20 AM PST by villagerjoel (1984 was not supposed to be an instruction manual!)
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To: Sammy67

Western society is slowly assuming a fetal position and sucking it’s thumb.


14 posted on 12/16/2008 10:13:28 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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To: Sammy67

Where’s the tolerance?


15 posted on 12/16/2008 10:13:32 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: Sammy67

Smalltown, crouching in the valley
Woken by the Sally Army
Sunday marchround
Smalltown, coughing in the toilet
Who on earth would spoil it
Would they pull down Smalltown?

- XTC The Everyday Story of Smalltown


16 posted on 12/16/2008 10:14:26 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Sammy67

Turban Sprawl engulfs the U.K., film at 11:00...


17 posted on 12/16/2008 10:14:56 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: PrairieRoot

...And boy that really offends me. Amen.


18 posted on 12/16/2008 10:14:56 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

What do you expect from a country with warped views of individual freedom (if Britain even has any at all).


19 posted on 12/16/2008 10:15:05 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"1984 was late by a few decades."

1984, like Soviet rule, was imposed by the state on an oppressed population.

Our growing gulag is welcomed and even enforced through peer pressure on a grass roots level by those who flatter themselves as enlightened and intelligent.

20 posted on 12/16/2008 10:15:15 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: netmilsmom

Well if you listen closely “Ting Ting Ting” kind of sounds “Jesus Christ alone is Lord and Savior.”


21 posted on 12/16/2008 10:15:18 AM PST by Radl (rtr)
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To: Radl

>>Well if you listen closely “Ting Ting Ting” kind of sounds “Jesus Christ alone is Lord and Savior.”<<

When you play it backwards?


22 posted on 12/16/2008 10:16:51 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: crusty old prospector

“I am offended by some pagans pointing all the butts up in the air in unison and howling at the moon five times a day.”


You beat me to it. They are nasty.


23 posted on 12/16/2008 10:17:44 AM PST by unkus
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To: Sammy67

Do Muslims not shake tins when they ask for donations? What do they shake?


24 posted on 12/16/2008 10:18:25 AM PST by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: Sammy67

Heck I am offended that they were told to stop. I think the next time I go to Walmart, I will take my own tin and start making some noise.


25 posted on 12/16/2008 10:19:39 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican (Sarah: I'm not going to just go along to get along.)
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To: Sammy67
Never, Never again visit the UK as criminals have the only rights available. They are totally like the Nazi SS or the Communist KGB they stink.

When will the English people start to try and get their country back??????????

26 posted on 12/16/2008 10:19:41 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: Sammy67
No more Christmas in Londonistan in the near future.
27 posted on 12/16/2008 10:19:41 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: Sammy67

STOP! This is crazy!!!


28 posted on 12/16/2008 10:21:53 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: Sammy67

Yet they allow the huge speakers on these things to blare that crap out several times a day every day.

Go figure, how long until the church bells are ordered silenced by these cultists?

29 posted on 12/16/2008 10:22:19 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: netmilsmom

By being associated, however tangentially, in the minds of anti-Christ zealots with a tinge of Christianity .


30 posted on 12/16/2008 10:22:50 AM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Sammy67
Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself.


31 posted on 12/16/2008 10:25:26 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: MahatmaGandu

LOL - love the name. Welcome to FR.


32 posted on 12/16/2008 10:25:45 AM PST by indcons (An eye for an eye; a tooth for a tooth.)
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To: Sammy67

Have a custom can made of brass by a famous instrument company and engraved with their name. Put coins in it and call it a “coinonium,” a new musical instrument. Then tell them to keep walking if they don’t like the sound. Soon they will be far enough away that they won’t be able to hear it.


33 posted on 12/16/2008 10:25:53 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: netmilsmom

Un-real! Well if Piggy Banks are offensive no telling what’s next..
Oh yeah Tin Cans! (Psychosis... caused by PC and Liberalism)


34 posted on 12/16/2008 10:27:28 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Seperation of Church and State)
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To: Sammy67

Liberals offend ALL my senses. Can you please tell them to stop...breathing?


35 posted on 12/16/2008 10:27:32 AM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: Sammy67

Okay, tell me how a Salvation Army brass ensemble at full volume isn’t a problem, but shaking a coin bank is.

It’s getting stupid out there.


36 posted on 12/16/2008 10:27:55 AM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Sammy67

I’m at the point where I just howl with laughter.


37 posted on 12/16/2008 10:30:40 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Sammy67
And Muslim calls to prayer over loudspeakers don't offend anyone??!! Good grief, how much of this blatant promotion of Islam and suppression of their own culture are the people going to take before they rise up? Or are they, like too many Americans, just too brain-dead from reality teevee and "Dancing With The Has-Been C-List Celebrity Moonbats" to give a damn anymore?
38 posted on 12/16/2008 10:32:53 AM PST by mrsmel (Hussein is not my president.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

The 2 most over-used words I hear are..

1. That’s OFFENSIVE

2. YOU ARE A BIGOT...

Since they have lost there *true meanings* when I hear it
I just say *GOOD*!


39 posted on 12/16/2008 10:33:16 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Seperation of Church and State)
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To: netmilsmom

Huh? How can shaking cans offend anyone?

You hadda ask!.......................

40 posted on 12/16/2008 10:37:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Red Badger

General William Booth Enters Into Heaven
by Vachel Lindsay

(snip)

[Banjos.]

Every slum had sent its half-a-score
The round world over. (Booth had groaned for more.)
Every banner that the wide world flies
Bloomed with glory and transcendent dyes.
Big-voiced lasses made their banjos bang,
Tranced, fanatical they shrieked and sang: —
“Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?”
Hallelujah! It was queer to see
Bull-necked convicts with that land make free.
Loons with trumpets blowed a blare, blare, blare
On, on upward thro’ the golden air!
(Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?)

II

(snip)

[Sweet flute music.]

Jesus came from out the court-house door,
Stretched his hands above the passing poor.
Booth saw not, but led his queer ones there
Round and round the mighty court-house square.
Then in an instant all that blear review
Marched on spotless, clad in raiment new.
The lame were straightened, withered limbs uncurled
And blind eyes opened on a new, sweet world.

[Bass drum louder.]

Drabs and vixens in a flash made whole!
Gone was the weasel-head, the snout, the jowl!
Sages and sibyls now, and athletes clean,
Rulers of empires, and of forests green!

[Grand chorus of all instruments. Tambourines to the foreground.]

The hosts were sandalled, and their wings were fire!
(Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?)
But their noise played havoc with the angel-choir.
(Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?)
O shout Salvation! It was good to see
Kings and Princes by the Lamb set free.
The banjos rattled and the tambourines
Jing-jing-jingled in the hands of Queens.

[Reverently sung, no instruments.]

And when Booth halted by the curb for prayer
He saw his Master thro’ the flag-filled air.
Christ came gently with a robe and crown
For Booth the soldier, while the throng knelt down.
He saw King Jesus. They were face to face,
And he knelt a-weeping in that holy place.
Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?


41 posted on 12/16/2008 10:44:05 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Sammy67

In our area, the SA is also saying “Happy Holidays” instead of Merry Christmas. I now give to the local Rescue Mission.


42 posted on 12/16/2008 10:47:10 AM PST by Pure Country
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To: Sammy67

England needs its own revolution.


43 posted on 12/16/2008 10:47:10 AM PST by Tax Government
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To: Sammy67

How long before people say “enough”? How long before the tyranny of the minority tramples enough of our values and traditions that there is a grassroots revolt? I know this is the UK, but it’s outrageous.


44 posted on 12/16/2008 11:04:17 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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The Salvation Army should return to its roots.

It was one of the firt modern “in your face” Christian movements. Formed because most of the churches in England had become apathetic. Not the Salvation Army is in danger of becomming the very thing it was formed to fight against.


45 posted on 12/16/2008 11:12:11 AM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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To: RichInOC

I went to a WalMart last week and the SA guy had a electric
keyboard playing Chritmas songs!!! I put something in the kettle and said “cool, man” and he just smiled....


46 posted on 12/16/2008 11:12:38 AM PST by tajgirvan (Please pray for FReeper alpha-8-25-02 to be healed for God's Glory Thank you.:)
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To: Sammy67

Terrorist Muslims offend the hell out of me. I relish the death of Terrorist Muslims and wish there could be more. As to non-Terrorist Muslims, I am ambivalent!

Now, is this un-PC enough to get me in trouble?


47 posted on 12/16/2008 11:26:40 AM PST by dbacks (God help the USA.)
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To: sionnsar

“Great Britain is toast...”

It is.

Hope the secular humanists, metrosexuals and feminists like the place when they redecorate it in “Sharia Law Red”.

I had read some stories of different Euro nations being taken over by socialism and Islam with people fleeing the continent. Not a tremendous amount, but enought to warrant a news piece.

I have a few Brit neighbors in my Chuch, my in childrens’ school, and my in-laws’ retirement community. I like them alot. They have a real quirky sense of humor and are good neighbors.

What are the odds the English might come here when the Muslims start making life less convenient and a lttle more like hell?

Wonder if they’ll be allowed into the US at that point?


48 posted on 12/16/2008 11:27:08 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: Sammy67

And we just keep taking it


49 posted on 12/16/2008 11:28:10 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: netmilsmom

It doesn’t. It’s just the cover story that the new religious cult in town - statism - throws out to diminish Christianity so statism can become the dominant Religion.


50 posted on 12/16/2008 11:31:46 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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