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105-year-old singer says Hitler was a 'good guy'
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Posted on 12/16/2008 9:44:53 PM PST by nickcarraway

A 105-year-old singer whose past as a singer in Nazi Germany has dogged his reputation for decades is back in the spotlight after telling a Dutch television show Adolf Hitler was a "good guy."

The Dutch-born Johan Heesters, who now has Austrian citizenship and is still popular and performing in Germany, was asked by a Dutch journalist what he thought of Hitler.

"A good guy, that's what he was," he said on the clip shown Thursday on the current affairs show "De Wereld Draait Door" ("The World Keeps Turning").

His wife, Simone Rethel, immediately corrected him, saying that Hitler was the worst criminal in the world.

"I know, doll," Heesters responded. "But he was nice to me."

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1 posted on 12/16/2008 9:44:54 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

What the hell is it with all the “Hitler was a good guy” b.s. Lately? I mean, what was the point of comparing Bush to him then all these years?


2 posted on 12/16/2008 9:47:05 PM PST by swatbuznik
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To: nickcarraway
So now it's news that one person thinks Hitler was a good guy?

I've heard of slow news days, but...

3 posted on 12/16/2008 9:47:48 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist Pro-Lifer)
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To: nickcarraway

Still performing at the age of 105. With a wife who’s still sharp as a tack! Well, hope I can live as long with a doting wife!


4 posted on 12/16/2008 9:53:47 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS
Still performing at the age of 105. With a wife who’s still sharp as a tack! Well, hope I can live as long with a doting wife!

I'm with you on that. Hitler was a charasmatic man for sure. His answer to what he called "the jewish question" certainly disqualifies him from nice guy status. He wasn't alone though.

5 posted on 12/16/2008 9:58:59 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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To: nickcarraway

From Oscar Brand’s “Enemy Generals on Parade”.

Goering they say, only has one ball.
Goebbels has two but rather small.
Himmler has something similar.
And Adolph Hitler has none at all.


6 posted on 12/16/2008 10:00:45 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama, Change America will die for.)
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To: nickcarraway
So a singer today says he was a good guy....a few days ago his freakin' maid says he was a nice guy...and this is noteworthy news.

....which apparently should be equal to or cancel out millions of dead innocent bodies.

Unbelievable what counts for news these days.

7 posted on 12/16/2008 10:05:02 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: nickcarraway

The dude is 105 years old. He probably couldn’t tell a picture of Hitler from an inadvertent crap in his pants.


8 posted on 12/16/2008 10:08:00 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: swatbuznik

What the hell is it with all the “Hitler was a good guy” b.s. Lately?

it’s prepping us for the Obamamessiah’s indoctrination camps, which curiously follow the same pattern of fascism, and other kind alike.


9 posted on 12/16/2008 10:18:54 PM PST by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: Darkwolf377
So now it's news that one person thinks Hitler was a good guy?

Hitler was very charismatic, just like 0bama...

And he was a Socialist, just like 0bama.....

10 posted on 12/16/2008 10:20:39 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: nickcarraway
This brings up and interesting question for debate. If Hitler we not a Jew hating murdering bastard. If there had not been concentration camps and mass murder. Could it be possible that he would have went down in history as one of the worlds greatest socialist leaders.

Hitler was a darling in the US press before Pearl Harbor.

I wonder how history would have treated him if he had not gone down the path of murder and wickedness.

The US press loves the socialists now even as we speak. We sure have have put more socialists in washington lately.

11 posted on 12/16/2008 10:21:10 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (America land soon to be of the enslaved...)
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To: nickcarraway
His wife, Simone Rethel, immediately corrected him, saying that Hitler was the worst criminal in the world.

Just one man’s opinion but on numbers of innocents killed, Stalin has Hitler by at least 10 million.

Then if you go by years of terror perpetrated I think Stalin has him by at least 9 years.

12 posted on 12/16/2008 10:24:23 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
I wonder how history would have treated him if he had not gone down the path of murder and wickedness. The US press loves the socialists now even as we speak.

Really I don’t believe as far as the liberals and the press are concerned murdering the Jews was that big a deal.

After all Stalin murdered far more than Hitler.

I believe that when the truth is outed it as far as the left in this country is concerned Hitler’s unforgivable crime was attacking and waging war on the Soviet Union.

13 posted on 12/16/2008 10:28:19 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Hitler was a darling in the US press before Pearl Harbor.

MMMM, I don't think that's quite accurate.

14 posted on 12/16/2008 10:49:01 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: Wil H

And people think Obama is a “good guy”... ;)


15 posted on 12/16/2008 11:08:25 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist Pro-Lifer)
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To: nickcarraway; Revolting cat!

Sure are a lot of Hitler threads lately. I had to check to see if this one was about Heino.


16 posted on 12/16/2008 11:08:28 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Darkwolf377

There are 4,000 professors who think that Bill Ayers, terrorist, communist, wartime traitor, is a good guy.

And it is controversial to suggest otherwise.


17 posted on 12/16/2008 11:09:22 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: nickcarraway

“Hitler was a great painter. He could paint an entire house flat in one afternoon. Two coats!”


18 posted on 12/16/2008 11:09:29 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: nickcarraway

Time admired him, not just giving him “Man of the Year” but I seem to recall a thread that had some quotes from around 1933 praising him too.


19 posted on 12/16/2008 11:10:45 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: dfwgator

That reminds me of Lenny Bruce’s bit about how Hitler was drafted into politics.

I wonder if he would have done the same bit about how Obama was also groomed for high office and packaged with icons.


20 posted on 12/16/2008 11:12:19 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Pontiac

The press isn’t upset with Palestinian terorrists murdering Jews today. The New York Times will actually refrain from calling even the murder of a 5 year old child “terrorism” depending on the territory that the action occurs in.


21 posted on 12/16/2008 11:13:50 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: nickcarraway
....."I don't think that's quite accurate.".....

Ahhh, yes he was thought well of in the US press. There were many in the US that agreed with much of what he said, and many that didn't want to go to war with him. Look back at the early years of the Kennedy's. The old man was pretty much on Hitlers side and caused problems for the anti Hilterites. It's not something that the Kennedy clan brags about, but it got pretty thick for awhile. Even JFK was diddling a Nazi for awhile and got J. Edgar Hoover looking at the Kennedy's.

FDR ran on a platform to keep us out of the "European problem". FDR could see it coming, but wouldn't get elected on a war platform. Churchill had already "wooed" FDR and convinced him war was inevitable. Many in the US felt that Britannia needed to get cut down to size after all their global colonies were getting less manageable.

Much of this is why many believe the evidence points to FDR "allowing" The attack on Pearl Harbor. FDR wanted to make Europe the main front in the coming war, but the Japs were the ones that got us in the war. A few days later, Hitler declared war on us anyway. Where did FDR fight first? Europe.

Think of it in the same terms many think of today in the ME. Afghanistan attacked the US, but we also went to war in Iraq and made it the main front. In the big picture, we are still fighting AlQuida, but you won't convince everybody of that.

I can't remember the name of the program now, but there was a program on the History channel that covered this period of time and named names. There were many newspapers that editorialized the same thoughts Hitler was spewing every day back in the '30's. In the '30's, you wouldn't get all that many arguments different from Adolph's about Jews and Blacks. Also, the "birth" of American socialism was breaking to the mainstream and having the government running everything during bad economic times sounded exciting.

Sound familiar?

22 posted on 12/16/2008 11:33:31 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Pontiac

Bingo!


23 posted on 12/16/2008 11:52:34 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Boycott GE this Christmas. Operation Pluck the Peacock!)
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To: nickcarraway

And FDR referred to Stalin as “Uncle Joe”. Stalin was anything but cuddly.


24 posted on 12/16/2008 11:53:54 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Boycott GE this Christmas. Operation Pluck the Peacock!)
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To: Pontiac

And I think Mao outclassed them all.


26 posted on 12/16/2008 11:56:49 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Rastus
And I think Mao outclassed them all.

I think your right. But I was thinking of Hitler’s contemporaries and as to why the western liberal press considered him a monster.

Then if we went to murders of innocents as a percentage of the country’s population I think the title would go to Pol Pot.

27 posted on 12/17/2008 12:20:13 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

All told, tens to hundreds of millions dead in the twentieth century to leftist, communist regimes, and their lives are all swept under the rug because they are inconvenient to modern leftist politicians.


28 posted on 12/17/2008 12:26:43 AM PST by Rastus
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To: Pontiac

Yet in terms of murders within a timeframe, Hitler takes the prize. At least 90% percent of his victims died witin the last 5 years of his rule. Stalin’s victim number spreads over almost 30 years. (Anyway “ranking” massmurdering tyrants is somewhat inane IMO... in the end it doesn’t matter in the verdict of them.)


29 posted on 12/17/2008 12:29:29 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: nickcarraway

He’s a pretty good guy, but there’s a problem,it’s not your average problem, but it’s a pretty big problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rO51C-A84g


30 posted on 12/17/2008 1:22:38 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: SolidWood
Anyway “ranking” massmurdering tyrants is somewhat inane IMO... in the end it doesn’t matter in the verdict of them

I agree.

The most interesting point to note is that the top performing mass murders were all Socialist/Communist.

31 posted on 12/17/2008 1:37:28 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: dfwgator

“And now it’s...
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay!
We’re marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Rhineland’s a fine land once more!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany”


32 posted on 12/17/2008 2:13:12 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: BradyLS

Hos wife is only 59 and is pretty darn good looking for her age: google image her name and you’ll see.

With a wife like that, I’m surprised he hasn’t had a fatal heart attack. Look at the photos and you’ll see why.


33 posted on 12/17/2008 3:17:02 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: SolidWood

I don’t know about that. Many people think Mao killed 60 million in just a few years after 1949.


34 posted on 12/17/2008 3:19:12 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Pontiac
But I was thinking of Hitler’s contemporaries and as to why the western liberal press considered him a monster.

I think that if there had been no photos of the camps and fewer witnesses that the media would be ignoring it today.

The pictures are so horrific, and there are so many personal accounts out there that the media HAS to be on the record as denouncing it. Otherwise they'd been seen as approving.

35 posted on 12/17/2008 4:37:32 AM PST by Dianna
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To: chuckles
To add just a little more background:

"While the facade of talk thus openly presented to the public bore all of the outward appearances of peace and of staying out of the war, the reality which lay behind it was different. Observers at Washington noted not only that we were committed to aiding Britian and France, but that Mr. Roosevelt wished to participate in the war in some way, considering it improved his chances for a third term, and that he even contemplated the possibility of our being in the war in six months. After the war was over we were told officially:

'As early as the fall of 1939, the President began to think about the administrative arrangements which might be necessary if we were forced to go to war. It was deemed inadvisable to seek from Congress positive legislation for industrial mobilization since, in a campaign year, such a request might set off a partisan debate and if anything resulted it might be restricitve legislation.'" [emphasis added]

[Frederic R. Sanborn, Deisgn for War: A Study of Secret Power Politics, 1937-1941, Devin-Adair, New York, 1951, pp. 91-92]

36 posted on 12/17/2008 5:03:34 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: Pontiac; BlackElk

Yeah, ole Adolf trails Stalin, Mao, AND Planned Parenthood.


37 posted on 12/17/2008 5:58:33 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Darkwolf377

This really isn’t a surprise.
Lots of folks thought Hitler was a “good guy.” I think that just about everybody who knew him personally liked him (sorta like Clinton...). He was good with dogs and kids, too.
Its amazing what sort of masks monsters can hide behind... We have the benefit of over 60 years of hindsight to see what he really was.


38 posted on 12/17/2008 6:07:19 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Pontiac

Bingo. Socialism/collectivism are the common denominators of them all. The national and ideological differences are minor.


39 posted on 12/17/2008 6:34:01 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: chuckles

We live in an artificial crisis today, created to establish sweeping “change” to the American model, and rather than prosecute those who orchestrated this fiasco we are letting them RUN the hearings in Congress.


40 posted on 12/17/2008 7:16:56 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; Brian Allen; cgk; ...

Natalie Maines can sympathize with this fool.


41 posted on 12/17/2008 7:18:04 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Albanese
Charles Manson helped me change a tire once. Great guy :)

Reminds me of the story of the crazed mental patient who escaped from the asylum. An alert was sent out over the radio and a panicked driver heard the broadcast. Suddenly his tire goes flat. He puts the nuts into the hub cab and gets to work putting the spare on the car.

Suddenly the mental patient appears in the headlights of the man's car! He is suprised and knocks the hubcab into the ditch, spilling the nuts. Frantically he searches for them but to no avail as the man comes closer.

The driver doesn't let on that he heard the broadcast so he is up front with the escapee when he asks "What's wrong?". He tells the man that he lost all of the nuts for the tire.

The escapee then says "take one nut from each of the other wheels and alternate them without a nut. I'm crazy, not dumb."

42 posted on 12/17/2008 7:23:44 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Dianna

There are photos of the gulags in Russia that are ignored. One of FDR’s VPs even saw them firsthand and said nothing.


43 posted on 12/17/2008 7:25:37 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Darkwolf377

Yet another parallel with Hitler - “Time Man of the Year”


44 posted on 12/17/2008 9:30:14 AM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Albanese

And Osama Bin Laden built hospitals, Senator Patty Murray even said so.


45 posted on 12/17/2008 9:31:16 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: nickcarraway

If anyone had gone into the concentration camps at the end of the war, after having had to fight the die-hard SS who had rather fight to the death than to allow the camp to be liberated - and so they died for their loyalty to the “Faderland” and the “Fuehrer” - this person who experienced this, and then saw the corpses of innocent people, Jews and others, piled up like cordwood several feet deep and half a mile in length - this person is better able to speak to the “niceness” of Hitler. - My Daddy went through this.


46 posted on 12/17/2008 4:57:58 PM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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To: Dianna
The pictures are so horrific,

True.

Even more horrific are the films, that are rarely ever seen, that Eisenhower had made (I think they were shot by a famous Hollywood director, Can’t remember the name).

They had the power to really upset you. Maybe why they are not shown, they are truly disturbing.

47 posted on 12/17/2008 5:40:32 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
This brings up and interesting question for debate. If Hitler we not a Jew hating murdering bastard. If there had not been concentration camps and mass murder. Could it be possible that he would have went down in history as one of the worlds greatest socialist leaders.

Like Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao perhaps.

48 posted on 12/17/2008 5:46:41 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: BradyLS
Still performing at the age of 105. With a wife who’s still sharp as a tack!

Wifey appears to be a bit short of 105.


49 posted on 12/17/2008 5:48:43 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: nickcarraway; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
A 105-year-old singer
yeah, okay.
50 posted on 12/17/2008 8:12:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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