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Justice Kennedy rejects 2 more challenges to Obama
AP via SFGate ^ | 12/17/8

Posted on 12/17/2008 9:33:30 AM PST by SmithL

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy has rejected two more efforts to get the court to consider whether President-elect Barack Obama is eligible to take office.

Kennedy on Wednesday denied without comment an appeal by Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania attorney, that claims Obama is either a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia and is ineligible to be president . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; kennedy; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; philipberg; scotus
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1 posted on 12/17/2008 9:33:30 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
What will happen later when we find out it's true, the Obamination was ineligible to serve ... what are these judges going to say then ?
2 posted on 12/17/2008 9:34:59 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: SmithL

I have a feeling that the SCOTUS is gunshy about getting involved in another election since the 2000 debacle.

This is simply a P.R. move.


3 posted on 12/17/2008 9:35:19 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: SmithL

4 posted on 12/17/2008 9:36:25 AM PST by maggief
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To: SmithL

Is it over?


5 posted on 12/17/2008 9:37:39 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: LucyT; pissant; Calpernia; Polarik; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; STARWISE; MHGinTN

For your various certifiGate ping lists


6 posted on 12/17/2008 9:37:52 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Slapshot68

Or, there could genuinely be nothing to this stuff, as many of us have said for some time. Nahh, that couldn’t be it. USSC has to be corrupt.


7 posted on 12/17/2008 9:38:07 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: SmithL

SCOTUS needs to put out a clear and concise statement as to why they are doing this. If the people of this country have questions, by the millions, they deserve an answer. Either that or forget our Constitution and the laws.


8 posted on 12/17/2008 9:38:50 AM PST by RC2
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To: SkyDancer

Wait till foreign nations decide they can use it against us. Feces will contact the air circulation device.


9 posted on 12/17/2008 9:39:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: SmithL

At The Supreme Court It’s Kennedy’s World.


10 posted on 12/17/2008 9:41:43 AM PST by BigFinn (Isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: SmithL

Speaking for myself, I do not believe any story that has “AP” on it. It needs corroboration.


11 posted on 12/17/2008 9:41:56 AM PST by devere
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To: LucyT; Canedawg

Ping!


12 posted on 12/17/2008 9:42:17 AM PST by atlbelle44
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To: SmithL

Why does this not come as a shock?


13 posted on 12/17/2008 9:42:22 AM PST by Tomato lover (How happy would our world be if men either knew more or practically knew how little they know.)
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To: LS
Or, there could genuinely be nothing to this stuff,...

I agree with you. There is NOTHING to this "stuff" - That is exactly what Obama has produced - NOTHING to show what hospital he was born in!

14 posted on 12/17/2008 9:43:24 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: LS

Nahh, that couldn’t be it. USSC has to be corrupt.
***They just lack courage, that’s all. When you argue against the “they have to be corrupt” statement, that’s a classic fallacy known as straw argumentation. You built up the argument yourself so you could argue against it. Why are you resorting to troll like behaviour and provacateur tactics if your intellectual position is so secure?


15 posted on 12/17/2008 9:44:04 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: cripplecreek

As Rush says ... it’s a sit-com .....


16 posted on 12/17/2008 9:44:15 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: SmithL

They go out of their way to make up law in Roe v. Wade that divides the nation for decades, yet they won’t get involved in a basic Constitutional question that goes to the very nature of Presidential eligibility.

The latter of which takes little more than a prove up of a birth certificate.

The mere fact they won’t consider this is further proof we are governed by elitists who don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone except themselves. Cowards all.


17 posted on 12/17/2008 9:44:36 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: SkyDancer

‘It’ isn’t true, so there will be nothing for them to say.

As disappointing as it may be, Barry O is a United States citizen, he was born in Hawaii and his mother is American and lived in America when she birthed him. That makes him a US citizen.... Please stop wasting your braincells on this dry well of a non-story.

If there was even a hint of a possibility that Barry O wasn’t qualified because of a citizenship question, it would have been looked at by the Justices. It hasn’t been and it won’t be and you can huff, you can puff and you can blow all you want, but you won’t bring down the ‘House of Obama’ by pursuing this ‘red herring’.


18 posted on 12/17/2008 9:46:05 AM PST by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: SmithL

From the article: “Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 to an American mother and a Kenyan father.” OH! Ok well that settles it then, huh? Disgusting.


19 posted on 12/17/2008 9:46:28 AM PST by The Worthless Miracle (I will not gird my loins for Joe Biden.)
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To: devere

From SCOTUS:

Lightfoot case has been updated to show denied.
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a524.htm

Berg case has not been updated.
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm


20 posted on 12/17/2008 9:46:38 AM PST by atlbelle44
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To: SmithL

This is the perfect Obama definition of being “open and transparent”. Fight showing your public record and personal history using every legal ploy possible.


21 posted on 12/17/2008 9:46:41 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: CE2949BB
Give It Up!

There is nothing that is going to hurt this guys. Everything will be considered a "Vast White-wing Conspiracy". No matter what you come up with he will be the victim.

22 posted on 12/17/2008 9:47:01 AM PST by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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To: penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; Kevmo; gunnyg; television is just wrong; browardchad; ...

~~PING!


23 posted on 12/17/2008 9:47:35 AM PST by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Slapshot68
I have a feeling that the SCOTUS is gunshy

I think so, too. Note also that the two appeals Kennedy turned down are related to Berg. That may have limited their chances since the Court has turned him down already.

24 posted on 12/17/2008 9:47:35 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

We’ll really know something is ‘up’ when Congress attempts to ‘clarify’ the meaning of “natural-born” citizen after the inauguration. If that happens you’ll know that there IS something hidden in that vault in Honolulu.


25 posted on 12/17/2008 9:48:00 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: SkyDancer

You asked — “What will happen later when we find out it’s true, the Obamination was ineligible to serve ... what are these judges going to say then ?”

Well, probably something like, you should have had a law that specified the “vetting process” and required a candidate to verify his qualification under the Constitution before putting him on the ballot and before he won the election...

And so..., that brings up what people should do, who are concerned about this kind of issue. Put state laws on the books that vet candidate or else they cannot be legally placed on the ballot.

That’s the solution to the problem.


26 posted on 12/17/2008 9:48:05 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: LS
They may be genuinely “nothing to this stuff” but if you, and many like you, are correct you have simply guessed correctly. There has been absolutely no evidence given to prove this case one way or another. Those of us interested in the Constitution and the rule of law, and aren't willing to speculate wildly without evidence, depend on the USSC to stand up and hear the hard cases. So far they have simply stepped back with little valid reason.
27 posted on 12/17/2008 9:48:59 AM PST by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Bump that. Sad, but true.


28 posted on 12/17/2008 9:49:07 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: LS

Well jolly fine then. Why don’t they take a case and show us all how we are all “kooks” by proving it...legally...beyond any reasonable doubt? They don’t know any more than the rest of us because he has NOT provided his Birth Certificate! The stain of it all if they continue to give the Constitution the middle finger will be irreparable.


29 posted on 12/17/2008 9:49:24 AM PST by battletank
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To: jerod

Please provide the link to the certified long form copy of the Obamafuehrer’s BC that shows what hospital he was born in and what doctor delivered him.


30 posted on 12/17/2008 9:50:03 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: jerod
The latest I read was that the address that was put down on the "BC" is bogus because of other people living there at the time ... they said they were there at that time ....

I think the jury is still out on this one .... not that I'm a conspiracy advocate ....

31 posted on 12/17/2008 9:50:09 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: A_Former_Democrat
They go out of their way to make up law in Roe v. Wade that divides the nation for decades, yet they won’t get involved in a basic Constitutional question that goes to the very nature of Presidential eligibility

I was chided on this site for wanting the Court to act like they did in Roe v. Wade, like activists. I think that may be it. I'm not clear on all the minutia of the law but I think SCOTUS needs the state legislatures to draw up laws concerning the procedures of qualifying candidates.

32 posted on 12/17/2008 9:50:30 AM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: CE2949BB

You asked — “Is it over?”

Yep, it’s over, as far as Obama is concerned.

The *real problem* is not over, though, and that will require putting laws on the books of the various states to vet candidates as to whether they are qualified under the Constitution and not allow them to be legally placed on the ballot without that proof.

I’m afraid that too many people are more concerned about Obama and less concerned about “this process*. And if that’s the case, everyone will simply “go away” and ignore the “process” that needs to be corrected — because they were *really* only after Obama in the first place...


33 posted on 12/17/2008 9:50:39 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: SmithL

So they can challenge after Congress confirms. They can try to get someone in Congress to challenge it.

We might have lost this battle, but we need both Congress and state legislatures to implement verification checks to prevent this again, and possibly catch Obama in 2012.

It wouldn’t take very many states checking to encourage the major parties to check themselves.

And it would be better to have both states and congress check, because it’s less likely that both would accept a forgery.


34 posted on 12/17/2008 9:51:25 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: CE2949BB
Is it over?

No.

35 posted on 12/17/2008 9:51:49 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: Star Traveler

The problem is - it won’t do any good now ... maybe the next presidential election it will ....


36 posted on 12/17/2008 9:52:02 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: LS

You said — “Or, there could genuinely be nothing to this stuff, as many of us have said for some time. Nahh, that couldn’t be it. USSC has to be corrupt.”

LOL..., you couldn’t be talking about genuine FReepers being considered kooks or conspiracy minded, could you? :-)

Naahhh..., no one would ever get that idea...


37 posted on 12/17/2008 9:52:08 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: jerod
What proof do you have that barry was born in Hawaii?
38 posted on 12/17/2008 9:52:49 AM PST by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: RC2

You said — “SCOTUS needs to put out a clear and concise statement as to why they are doing this. If the people of this country have questions, by the millions, they deserve an answer. Either that or forget our Constitution and the laws.”

They don’t do that, so why should they start — right now — for this particular issue?


39 posted on 12/17/2008 9:53:10 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: SmithL

Again, it all sifts down to this: A 1961 birth certificate exists, so say the Hawaii state officials—and it has been sealed. Obama refuses to make it public. What legitimate reason could there be?


40 posted on 12/17/2008 9:53:46 AM PST by Genoa
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To: devere

You said — “Speaking for myself, I do not believe any story that has “AP” on it. It needs corroboration.”

I’ve got two words for that... paranoid, denial... and that might sum up the position of many on this issue... LOL...


41 posted on 12/17/2008 9:54:30 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: SkyDancer

If there is one.


42 posted on 12/17/2008 9:55:02 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: SkyDancer
maybe the next presidential election it will

This will only be addressed when there is a question about a REPUBLICAN candidate's qualifications.

43 posted on 12/17/2008 9:55:14 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: SmithL
"without comment"

Justice Kennedy - - now there's a guy with a spine of steel.

44 posted on 12/17/2008 9:56:08 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Star Traveler
The *real problem* is not over, though, and that will require putting laws on the books of the various states to vet candidates as to whether they are qualified under the Constitution and not allow them to be legally placed on the ballot without that proof.

OK then. I'm going to ask the next "next question". What if the several states start to amend their election law -- some will. What if in 4 years Obama cannot run for re-election because of ballot access problems due to his inability to prove N-B citizenship to the satisfaction of 5 or 6 states? Imagine the brouhaha then?

45 posted on 12/17/2008 9:56:53 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Star Traveler

HEHEHEH. Not us. Not here.


46 posted on 12/17/2008 9:57:04 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Star Traveler

I realize we are all just paranoid kooks, so please forgive my stupidity, but could you please Mr. All Knowing, provide we kooks with your proof of his Hawaiian birth? Consider it a Christmas present to we lowly peons.

Thanks.


47 posted on 12/17/2008 9:57:09 AM PST by battletank
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To: MrB

True - if this president was a Republican you better believe that the MSM would be digging on this ... there would be 30 “media investigative” reporters in Hawaii ...


48 posted on 12/17/2008 9:57:37 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Star Traveler; LS
You said — “Or, there could genuinely be nothing to this stuff, as many of us have said for some time. Nahh, that couldn’t be it. USSC has to be corrupt.”


LOL..., you couldn’t be talking about genuine FReepers being considered kooks or conspiracy minded, could you? :-)


Exactly, "he said" because that's the pathetic intellectually dishonest means of debate you geniuses use.
49 posted on 12/17/2008 9:58:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Kevmo

“They lack courage” is always a nice fallback. Never can be that there is no substance to a charge. “Lacking courage” is corruption, BTW.


50 posted on 12/17/2008 9:58:02 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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