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Bush says `no debate' about his keeping US safe
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/17/08 | Ben Feller - ap

Posted on 12/17/2008 12:24:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge

CARLISLE, Pa. – President George W. Bush, ever focused on his legacy, said Wednesday "there can be no debate" about his record of preventing another terrorist attack.

Evoking harrowing memories of Sept. 11, 2001, Bush said virtually no one could have predicted back then that the country would not be hit again for the rest of his presidency.

"It's not a matter of luck," Bush said, defending his security policies.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; keeping; nodebate; safe; wot
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To: Mr. Know It All

Well, you are proving my point.

If attacks happened on foriegn soil (for which the correct answer was YES) that shows Al Qaeda was active (and not impotent like Democrats claim).

The fact that an ACTIVE Al Qaeda was unable to strike in the USA in those interim years speaks volumes.


21 posted on 12/17/2008 12:50:04 PM PST by SoftwareEngineer
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To: meandog
"W"orse taking credit for no attack on his watch This is an example of the post hoc, ergo propter hoc (following this, therefore because of this) fallacy. An illustrative example:
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm!
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Why thank you, honey.
Lisa: By your logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Hmm. How does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work; it's just a stupid rock!
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
Homer: Hmm... Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

22 posted on 12/17/2008 12:58:07 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: lonestar67

Fascinating?

It was not really intended to be seen as such but I could see your take on it.

Obviously its reach was into every municipality across the land to some degree and still is to this day..

It has been offered as a war that could last decades before it may ever be won and pitfalls are to be expected along the way.

I fail to see the President’s efforts as anymore of a conservative nature than Reagan’s, more an American spirited one.

Maybe Lincoln should be added to the mix as well as he fought a civil war in his very own homeland, imposed many stringent measures that parallel what the President has backed as necessary.

There are a heckuva lot more chips on the tables these days than there were back then and sadly, we face an even colder character in the ol’ USSR today than we did back then.

Makes ya wonder why anyone would even want the job, huh? ;-)


23 posted on 12/17/2008 1:02:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: jrooney
If we are attacked on our soil under Obama, the Democrats and Obie will have no one to blame but themselves.

That's not necessarily true.

If/when we are attacked again the first thing I will want to know is if they came in over our open borders. If so, the blame will lie quarely on a president who refused to close our borders at a time of war.

24 posted on 12/17/2008 1:03:48 PM PST by South40
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To: jrooney
What about protecting our borders? What about deporting terrorists and other illegal aliens? Bush actually wanted amnesty for illegal aliens! That is supposed to keep us safe?
25 posted on 12/17/2008 1:05:44 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: Jane Austen

We’re apparently supposed to beleive that if we are attacked Bush will be free from blame even if our attackers came across our open borders during Jorge’s term.


26 posted on 12/17/2008 1:14:15 PM PST by South40
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To: South40

That’s it.


27 posted on 12/17/2008 1:15:26 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: Jane Austen
"It's not a matter of luck," Bush said, defending his security policies.

Actually, it is.

28 posted on 12/17/2008 1:18:24 PM PST by South40
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To: NormsRevenge; Rum Tum Tugger; stockpirate

King Jeorge Bush keeping Americans safe:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2150416/posts


29 posted on 12/17/2008 1:20:32 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Shame Obama won’t do the same for us.


30 posted on 12/17/2008 1:39:52 PM PST by usaproud (VERY)
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To: Mr. Know It All

Your answers confirm his claim Mr. Know Nothing At All


31 posted on 12/17/2008 1:42:38 PM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: NormsRevenge

My Terror-free Weekend
Let’s see now, what did I do last weekend. Sat., I got some news from Vanguard about my 101K. Then sister called, said her husband had been laid off. Evening, I went to Wally World and bought some more king-sized bags of rice and pinto beans to put in the chest freezer. And a couple more boxes of #4 buck, 12 gauge.
Sunday afternoon, I told an able-bodied young pendajo to get the h*** out of the handicapped mens dressing room at Macy’s. It took a while since his English was nonexistent and I was using all the abusive espanish palabras I know. I guess he didn’t understand the wheelchair symbol on the door.
But no attacks by deranged muslims. They musta all been down at the airport bathing their feet/


32 posted on 12/17/2008 1:44:45 PM PST by tumblindice (if it weren't for bad news, I'd get no news at all, doom, despair and agony on me, deep dark depress)
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To: Jane Austen
What about protecting our borders? What about deporting terrorists and other illegal aliens? Bush actually wanted amnesty for illegal aliens! That is supposed to keep us safe?

He missed the boat on that. It is probably past the point of no return now, and that is too bad- for us.
33 posted on 12/17/2008 1:46:17 PM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: usaproud

You know something? If Bush was secular we could all call him a Socialist and the transformation would be complete.


34 posted on 12/17/2008 1:46:58 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: South40
Whatever his failures in border control (and they are legion), none of them have been linked to terrorist attacks because there have been no successful terrorist attacks.

There have been many attempts, but no one has succeeded in executing an attack. No one would have made that bet in the aftermath of 9/11/2001.

Credit where credit is due. Bush has succeeded beyond anyone's wildest imaginings at preventing another 9/11 on his watch.

Your admonition, however warranted, does not in any way negate that success. If it does occur as a result of those who illegally immigrated to America on his watch, then you can complain. Otherwise you are indulging in BDS hysteria and intellectual dishonesty in denying him that credit.
35 posted on 12/17/2008 1:51:55 PM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: jrooney

The once mighty America is now just an old worn out, harpooned dying whale and our enemies know it.

With the incoming administration, for the first time, we are in dire peril of being invaded on our own soil.....and soundly defeated!


36 posted on 12/17/2008 2:22:53 PM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: South40
We’re apparently supposed to beleive that if we are attacked Bush will be free from blame even if our attackers came across our open borders during Jorge’s term.

First, there are many who have openly advertised our open borders to our enemies while complaining about the NY Times advertising our military strategy to those same enemies.

Second, the advertised open borders have not been exploited by our enemies in 8 years so it is now spun as a negative.

Liberals would be proud of the posts around here.

37 posted on 12/17/2008 2:46:31 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
The fact that an ACTIVE Al Qaeda was unable to strike in the USA in those interim years speaks volumes.
Not really. 1) Unless you have access to information you shouldn't share in public, you don't know what Al Qaeda even tried. 2) After the initial attack on the WTC in 1993, there were no further attacks on American soil. You going to tell the friends and families of people who died in the USS Cole and other attacks that Clinton kept us safe? I hope not.

You don't think that Al Qaeda operative couldn't drive a truck full of explosives and even nuclear materials right across our border from Mexico or Canada if they wanted to? Bush has been lucky. Let's pray that Obama is as lucky, because he isn't planning to protect our border any better than Bush did.

38 posted on 12/17/2008 2:49:56 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Sudetenland; jrooney
The poster jrooney stated, and quite erroneously that, “If we are attacked on our soil under Obama, the Democrats and Obie will have no one to blame but themselves.”

That is patently untrue. If said attack is attributable to the fact that this open borders president has left us vulnerable by leaving the borders open the blame will lie squarely on him.

Moreover, and in light of his refusal to close our borders, any such success is preventing additional attacks have been if only in part, just plain luck.

39 posted on 12/17/2008 5:24:50 PM PST by South40
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To: Erik Latranyi
First, there are many who have openly advertised our open borders to our enemies while complaining about the NY Times advertising our military strategy to those same enemies.

Is that supposed to exculpate Jorge for leaving the borders open when he knows there are enemies who would gladly cross them with the express intent of killing as many innocent Americans as they possibly can? What about his responsibility to protect Americans from the next attack? He will be to blame should we be attacked again and that attack came from over the borders; you can’t spin that.

Second, the advertised open borders have not been exploited by our enemies in 8 years so it is now spun as a negative.

Using that ‘logic’ you could have said on September 10, 2001, that because no one has ever flown a plane into the WTC towers no one ever will. September 11th changed that though, wouldn’t you say?

Leaving the borders open during a time of war is beyond asinine, it is criminal. And I, for one, plan to hold Jorge accountable IF and WHEN the next attack occurs and it is discovered they used Jorge’s open door. You and your fellow Bushbots can try to blame Obama but you’ll look as foolish as those who tried blaming Bush for 911 when we know that entire operation was hatched under Clinton.

Liberals would be proud of the posts around here.

They would. As it is illogical postings like yours that they rely upon in their world which is absent of personal responsibility.

40 posted on 12/17/2008 5:41:14 PM PST by South40
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