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Ted Turner's lies about Cuba (Lionizing Castro and Che Guevara)
American Thinker ^ | Dec 18, 2008 | Humberto Fontova

Posted on 12/18/2008 7:31:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Last week during a FoxNews interview with Bill O'Reilly, Ted Turner, who founded what has become (in their own words) "the world's largest cable news network "claimed that Fidel Castro's Stalinist regime has never killed anyone.

O'REILLY: Fidel Castro, do you admire the man?


O'REILLY: Now he has murdered people. He's imprisoned people. There are political prisoners now. He won't let his people use the Internet. Nobody can use that. And you admire the guy?

TURNER: Well, I admire certain things about him. He's trained a lot of doctors, and they've got one of the best educational systems in the developing world. And you know, he's still popular with a lot of people down there. ..

REILLY: But he's a killer. He's a killer. He's a guy who...

TURNER: But that has never, to my knowledge, that's never been proven. I mean...

O'REILLY: He's executed political prisoners. I mean, he enslaves people who don't see it the way he sees it. Come on. He runs a dictatorship.

For the record in 1958 ( year before Castro took over) Cuba had a higher standard of living than Ireland and Austria, almost double Spain and Japan's per capita income, more doctors and dentists per capita than Britain, and lower infant mortality than France and Germany - the 13th-lowest in the world, in fact. Today, Cuba's infant-mortality rate - despite the hemisphere's highest abortion rate, which skews this figure downward - is 43th from the top.

So, relative to the rest of the world, Cuba's health care has worsened under Castro, and a nation with a formerly massive influx of European immigrants needs machine guns, water cannons and tiger sharks to keep its people from fleeing, while half-starved Haitians a short 60 miles away turn up their noses at any thought of emigrating to Cuba.

But let's get to the heart of the matter. Ted Turner is demonstratively a brilliant businessman. Back in 1997 when CNN craved a Havana Bureau, his sales pitch was not particularly subtle: "Castro is one helluva guy!" he gushed to a capacity crowd at Harvard Law School during a speech. "You people would like him! Most people in Cuba like him."

Within weeks CNN was granted its coveted Havana Bureau, the first ever granted by Castro to a foreign network. By the way, two years ago that CNN bureau's longtime reporter, Lucia Newman, jumped over to Al-Jazeera. A "lateral career move," I think they call this.

To put it bluntly: Ted Turner is very far from a space-cadet. He cannot possibly believe what he said on the O'Reilly Factor. The Castro regime's own henchmen have never claimed anything so transparently preposterous-no Communists ever have. Indeed, like Al Qaeda generations later, terror in the form of mass murder (often public) , was always key to the Communist quest and maintenance of power. Communists have always wanted this to be known, as a means to cow opposition.

"We will make our hearts cruel, hard, and immovable ... we will not quiver at the sight of a sea of enemy blood. Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood! Let there be floods of the blood of the bourgeois - more blood, as much as possible." Felix Dzerzhinsky, the head of the Soviet Cheka in 1918:

"Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!" --- Ernesto Guevara from the book that became the Motorcycle Diaries.

"We stand for organized terror - this should be frankly admitted. Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution. Our aim is to fight against the enemies of the Soviet Government and of the new order of life. We judge quickly." -- V.I Lenin.

"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary. These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We execute from revolutionary conviction!" -- Ernesto "Che" Guevara.

"Executions? Certainly we execute!And we will CONTINUE executing as long as it is necessary! This is a war to the DEATH against the revolution's enemies!" --- Che Guevara while addressing the U.N. General Assembly on December 9, 1964.

According to the Black Book of Communism, published in Paris, 14,000 men and boys were executed in Cuba by that stage -- the equivalent, given the relative populations, of over 3 million executions in the U.S. "VIVA CHE! VIVA FIDEL!" bellowed Jesse Jackson while arm in arm with the agent of that appalling bloodbath (Fidel Castro) at the University of Havana in 1984. Jesse Jackson, by the way, wrote a book condemning capital punishment.

Please note: all of Guevara's above quotes are found in the sadist/coward's (alas, the "acrid odor of gunpowder and blood" never reached Guevara's nostril from actual combat. It always came from the close-range murder of bound, gagged and blindfolded men) own diaries. Some of these diaries were fashioned into a movie 4 years ago by Robert Redford (The Motorcycle Diaries); Others provided the screenplay for the 4 ½ hour "epic hagiography" (as described by The New York Times) directed by Stephen Soderbergh and starring Benicio Del Toro titled "Che," and released stateside just last week.

The above-mentioned directors and producers profess rigid fidelity to Che's complete diaries. But you will search these movies in utter vain for these dramatic soundbites, much less their much more cinematically dramatic fulfillment.

When Che Guevara entered the Cuban city of Santa Clara during the anti-Batista skirmishing he promptly ordered the firing squad murder of dozens of Batista "war-criminals." A "battle" that added up to six casualties on both sides , but which Soderbergh and Del Toro-mindlessly sycophantic to their Castroite sources--depict as a Caribbean Stalingrad/Iwo Jima, somehow produced scores of war criminals on one side! The New York Times, who "reported" on this "battle" as it "raged," didn't bother to look into this peculiar numerical discrepancy.

The Cuban Stalinists televised some of their Santa Clara atrocities for essentially the same reason Al Qaeda televised Nick Berg's be-heading. Please click here, Mr Turner, for stark proof of what Bill O'Reilly was telling you on his show.

This valiant man, Col. Cornelio Rojas, refused a blindfold and walked to his execution (murder , actually, Che Guevara didn't even bother with one of his bogus trials) unescorted. Compare Senor Rojas death to Guevara's capture--'Don't shoot!" whimpered the quaking "guerrilla". "I'm worth more to you alive than dead!"

Blanco Rojas, Senor Rojas wife of forty years, died of a heart arttack while watching her husband's Che-ordered murder on Cuban national TV. Cornelio Rojas 17 year old nephew , Pedro, volunteered for what came to be known as the Bay of Pigs invasion. After fighting to his last bullet (and denied more by JFK's Best and Brightest) the defenseless Pedro was murdered in cold blood by a suddenly blustering and sneering Communist who served until recently as Cuba's "Minister of tourism," Osmany Cienfuegos.


Humberto Fontova is the author of four books including Exposing the Real Che Guevara. Visit

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: castro; che; cheguevara; cuba; tedturner

1 posted on 12/18/2008 7:31:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellant thresd. thanks.

2 posted on 12/18/2008 7:33:44 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO!!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Send Turner to live in Cuba as an average citizen...he wants socialism for you and me - as he will be our master.
3 posted on 12/18/2008 7:35:18 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind
Turner is an idiot. He tossed his soul to have Hanoi Jane. Joined the faith of liberalism and lost his soul. She dumped him and he has never recovered. He is nothing but a senile old man now. No CNN, No Atlanta Hawks, No Atlanta Braves. All he has is the field named after him and the TMC movie channel on TV. He's a dope.
4 posted on 12/18/2008 7:36:07 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Great patriotic stuff at
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To: 2banana

Hey, Ted could go start small and go socialist with just me. He and I can combine our net worths and split them 50/50. Or maybe 60/40—my “need” is greater than his, I think. You think he’ll go for it?

5 posted on 12/18/2008 7:42:51 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: SeekAndFind

“more ... dentists per capita than Britain”

Big deal.

6 posted on 12/18/2008 7:57:06 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Britain has dentists ?

7 posted on 12/18/2008 7:58:59 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: bicyclerepair

Yes, I know one and beautiful she is.

8 posted on 12/18/2008 8:02:15 PM PST by razorback-bert (Save the is the only known one with beer!)
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To: SeekAndFind

i don’t understand why many of america’s achievers

admire totalitarianism.

9 posted on 12/18/2008 8:15:00 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

10 posted on 12/18/2008 8:21:20 PM PST by rlmorel ("A barrel of monkeys is not fun. In fact, a barrel of monkeys can be quite terrifying!")
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To: RetiredArmy
All he has is the field named after him and the TMC movie channel on TV. He's a dope.

You neglected to mention that for a man with communist sympathies he owns more land than any other person in the United States. He also owns the world’s largest bison herd.

He is kind of a hypocrite.

11 posted on 12/18/2008 8:24:08 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: SeekAndFind
He's trained a lot of doctors, and they've got one of the best educational systems in the developing world.

Actually, this statement by that idiot Turner says it all. Fifty years ago, I don't think Cuba was considered a "developing country".

But after 50 years of backwards Communism and Castro, it has turned into one.

12 posted on 12/18/2008 8:24:24 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
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To: ken21

i don’t understand why many of america’s achievers
admire totalitarianism.

Lust for power and the seduction of being in control?

I’d have to go back and read Arendt, whose writings on Totalitarianism had a profound impact on me during formative years.

13 posted on 12/18/2008 8:28:35 PM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: SeekAndFind

Ted Turner has been nuts for a lot of years. But his appearance that evening was shocking! Turner looked to be a man struggling to function while heavily medicated.

14 posted on 12/18/2008 8:34:57 PM PST by Ghengis (Obama plays Guitar Hero and the sycophants claim that he is Hendrix!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Turner just loves communists. He would marry Castro if he could...

15 posted on 12/18/2008 8:53:11 PM PST by citizencon
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To: VeniVidiVici
Fifty years ago, I don't think Cuba was considered a "developing country". But after 50 years of backwards Communism and Castro, it has turned into one.

Great point! Unfortunately they no longer teach actual history in American schools.

16 posted on 12/18/2008 8:56:23 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: SeekAndFind
Tuner has a history of being an apologist for Commies.

Transcript of a 2005 interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer:

Turner: "I am absolutely convinced that the North Koreans are absolutely sincere. There's really no reason -- no reason for them to cheat or do anything to violate this very forward agreement. I mean, I think we can put the North Korea and East Asia problems behind us and concentrate on Iran and Iraq, where, where we still have some ongoing difficulties."

Blitzer: "I've got to tell you, Ted, given the record of North Korea, especially the fact that, in the Clinton administration in '93-'94, they made a similar pledge, which they violated and they backed out of, I'm not exactly sure that I accept all your optimism."

Turner: "Well, you know, I was optimistic about the Cold War when I got to Russia, too. But I looked them right in the eyes. And they looked like they meant the truth. I mean, you know, just because somebody's done something wrong in the past doesn't mean they can't do right in the future or in the present. That happens all the, all the time."

Blitzer: "But this is one of the most despotic regimes and Kim Jong Il is one of the worst men on Earth. Isn't that a fair assessment?"

Turner: "Well, I didn't get, I didn't get to meet him, but he didn't look, in the pictures that I've seen of him on CNN, he didn't look too much different than most other people."

Blitzer: "But look at the way, look at the way he's, look at the way he's treating his own people."

Turner: "Well, hey, listen. I saw a lot of people over there. They were thin and they were riding bicycles instead of driving in cars, but--"

Blitzer: "A lot of those people are starving."

Turner: "I didn't see, I didn't see any, I didn't see any brutality in the capital or out in the, on the DMZ...Let's give 'em a break. Give 'em a break And besides, even if they do -- even if they do threaten us again, the threat is non-existent to the United States. They can't threaten us. I mean, it's like a fleet attacking an elephant."

17 posted on 12/18/2008 9:38:42 PM PST by Skibane
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To: dangus
“more ... dentists per capita than Britain”

Big deal.

That was before the revolution. Prolly don't have anywhere near that number today.


Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!

18 posted on 12/18/2008 9:48:56 PM PST by JCG
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To: 2banana

My husband and his family escaped Cuba after Castro’s coup.

My husband’s uncle was a political prisoner for a year simply because he wanted to leave Cuba. His wealthy family supported Castro, and members of the family were rewarded with ambassadorships. They felt it would be an embarrassment to them if he defected, so they had him arrested.

While he was a prisoner, his wife (my husband’s aunt) had to bring him food every day otherwise he would not have had anything to eat. He was a chemical engineer and not used to hard labor, but was forced to work the sugar cane fields while he was in prison.

Turner doesn’t have a clue what Communism really is like. He would have a major wake-up call if he actually had to live in such a country.

19 posted on 12/18/2008 10:10:17 PM PST by Texas56
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To: SeekAndFind
I've got to ask, why is Ted Turner being interviewed? He’s been drinking the Kool-aid for years. His opinions are stale, pointless, always anti-American and irrelevant. For O’Reily to have him on is a waste.

If Fox wants to take the lead in news like they think they are, they need to report on the vacant senate seats in Illinois and New York. They need to report on the lack of coverage on Hussein’s COLB controversy. Stop with the shoe tosser already and report the obvious corruption that is presented before their eyes.

20 posted on 12/19/2008 1:03:51 AM PST by repubpub
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That was only a joke.

21 posted on 12/19/2008 7:44:33 AM PST by dangus
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