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Supreme Court to talk about Obama 3rd time Berg eligibility case set for conference Jan. 9
WND ^ | December 19, 2008

Posted on 12/19/2008 12:23:50 PM PST by Red Steel

One of the original legal challenges to President-elect Barack Obama's eligibility for office to reach the U.S. Supreme Court now has been scheduled for a conference, a meeting at which the justices discuss its merits and whether to step into the fray.

Online schedules posted by the court show the case brought by attorney Philip J. Berg is set for a conference Jan. 9.

The case is one among several that already have reached the U.S. Supreme Court and address the issue of Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that presidents be "natural born" citizens.

Berg has submitted several requests for injunctions, seeking the court's order to stay proceedings in the electoral process until his case is heard, but the request have been rejected.

His original claim, however, remains on track to be heard.

"I know that Mr. Obama is not a constitutionally qualified natural born citizen and is ineligible to assume the office of president of the United States," Berg said in a statement on his ObamaCrimes.com website.

"Obama knows he is not 'natural born' as he knows where he was born and he knows he was adopted in Indonesia; Obama is an attorney, Harvard Law grad who taught Constitutional law; Obama knows his candidacy is the largest 'hoax' attempted on the citizens of the United States in over 200 years; Obama places our Constitution in a 'crisis' situation; and Obama is in a situation where he can be blackmailed by leaders around the world who know Obama is not qualified," Berg's statement continued.

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The cases, in various ways, have alleged Obama does not meet the "natural born citizen" clause of the U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which reads, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the

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Berg also resubmitted 08A505 to Scalia:

Dec 17 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 9, 2009

Dec 17 2008 Application (08A505) denied by Justice Kennedy.

Dec 18 2008 Application (08A505) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm

1 posted on 12/19/2008 12:23:50 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
I wouldn't hold out much hope on this one. Berg is also a 9/11 Truther who wants Bush and Cheney prosecuted for causing 9/11.
2 posted on 12/19/2008 12:26:42 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: Red Steel

Could you post a bio of Berg, his political affiliations, accomplishments, etc?


3 posted on 12/19/2008 12:27:17 PM PST by jla (Sarah!)
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To: Red Steel

Just in time to wreak havoc for the inauguration!


4 posted on 12/19/2008 12:27:46 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Red Steel

This cat has nine lives. If Scalia pushes at getting the facts and seeing the original birth certif. this can get mighty interesting.


5 posted on 12/19/2008 12:28:09 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: Red Steel

Hey Red, do you have any idea what the status of the Keyes case is? thanks


6 posted on 12/19/2008 12:28:47 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: Red Steel

I hope this time the Supremes don’t wuss out and have the courage to declare Obama an illegal alien and not qualified to be sworn in as President. Let it be Biden, he’ll be easier to defeat in 2012.


7 posted on 12/19/2008 12:30:58 PM PST by FFranco
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To: MountainWoman

The last I heard, the CA court will take it up in early or mid March.


8 posted on 12/19/2008 12:31:34 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: BlueStateBlues

The SCOTUS Conference is scheduled for the Day After the Electoral College vote is certified by Congress.

Berg, the 9/11 & BC Truther will be denied by the SCOTUS once again.


9 posted on 12/19/2008 12:32:50 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: pissant

Ping


10 posted on 12/19/2008 12:33:15 PM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: Red Steel

oh geez...ok...thank you. :)


11 posted on 12/19/2008 12:33:45 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: wastedyears

Good Lord, I thought it said Third Term.


12 posted on 12/19/2008 12:34:17 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Red Steel

I believe SCOTUS has indicated THEY DON’T CARE by their previous denials on these other cases. They have now said they don’t care about the US Constitution. If Obama were a white Republican I bet they would care!


13 posted on 12/19/2008 12:35:40 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Red Steel

To be clear, this case below is 08-570 a separate action from the /Application/Injunction 08A505.

“Dec 17 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 9, 2009 “


14 posted on 12/19/2008 12:35:50 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: massgopguy

I really wouldn’t be surprised.


15 posted on 12/19/2008 12:37:46 PM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: teletech

BUT SCOTUS has not denied any of the “Writ of Certiorari” in any of the cases. What they have denied is only the stays that were for the two elections.


16 posted on 12/19/2008 12:38:51 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: trumandogz

Congress could certify the EC vote, but a disqualification could still occur afterward, couldn’t it?


17 posted on 12/19/2008 12:39:43 PM PST by Genoa
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To: Red Steel

I realize that alot of people think this is a bunch of hooey, but as I’m reading this I’m thinking “Why in God’s name is man letting this go the SUPREME COURT instead of just showing his damn birth certificate?” I mean honestly, at some point you have to start to wonder. I have been a “birther” for a while I guess, but just reading this today it hit home. Wasting the court’s time like is ridiculous and it either shows an arrogance that a President doesn’t need to have or something to hide.


18 posted on 12/19/2008 12:41:33 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: BlueStateBlues
This cat has nine lives. If Scalia pushes at getting the facts and seeing the original birth certif. this can get mighty interesting.

I am still unable to think of any reason why Obama would not release a (redacted if the complete version has something private) copy of his full Hawaiian birth certificate, if it exists.

Could that document still be worth hiding at the enormous financial cost that he is paying for lawyers?

Does he really dismiss the damage that skeptics, truthers, and strict constructionists wondering whether he has any legal right to the job will do?

Does her really not see any difference in legitimacy between winning the legal case on a technicality or by running out the clock and making the case go away by releasing proof of his status as a natural born citizen?

I'm more worried about what his actions say regarding his attitude toward the Constitution than I am about his true citizenship. Sadly, we already knew that he hates America as it is, that his wife has never been proud of our country, that he was happy to raise his kids in a church centered on hate, and that he has no appreciation for the good that freedom and capitalism do in the world. This collection of legal challenges has shown that he also has no respect for the Constitution - no surprise to those who have read his views on the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

19 posted on 12/19/2008 12:41:52 PM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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To: Red Steel
BUT SCOTUS has not denied any of the “Writ of Certiorari” in any of the cases. What they have denied is only the stays that were for the two elections.

Thanks for the update. When I see a denial and not bein a lawyer, I think it is all over. I hope SCOTUS will get to the bottom of this once and for all. The citizens of our country deserve at least that much.

20 posted on 12/19/2008 12:43:18 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Albion Wilde

Berg was an attorney for the truthers. Basically he was doing what attorneys do. I heard an interview with him a while back and he was asked if he believed what the Truthers did. His answer was basically “Not necessarily”.


21 posted on 12/19/2008 12:44:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: LucyT

Berg ping.


22 posted on 12/19/2008 12:44:58 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Incorrigible
Just in time to wreak havoc for the inauguration!

Wanna bet?

23 posted on 12/19/2008 12:45:30 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Genoa

Yes and a clarification. If the Supreme Court find that Obama is not a ‘natural born citizen’ after Obama is sworn in as president, it will take Congress to act on the SCOTUS ruling to impeach him.

Many of the Obots and others think Obama will be in the clear after January 20th, not so. The liar in chief would have the biggest political problem that would rival any in history, which would dog him for the rest of his administration if Congress does not do their Constitutional duty.


24 posted on 12/19/2008 12:46:18 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: LucyT; pissant; Calpernia; Polarik; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; STARWISE; MHGinTN

For your various CertifiGate ping lists


25 posted on 12/19/2008 12:47:21 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Red Steel

If you want to prove that Obama was born in Kenya, all you need to do is file a FOIA Request with the State Department for them to release a copy of Obama’s DS-1350 which would have been issued at the U.S. Embassy in Kenya.


26 posted on 12/19/2008 12:52:25 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: massgopguy
Good Lord, I thought it said Third Term.

YIKES!

27 posted on 12/19/2008 12:53:31 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: trumandogz

Scalia may enjoy the constitutional question. After the electoral college and Congress certify, but it is still shown that the prez can’t be the prez, then he can’t be. Roberts won’t swear him in, Scalia will laugh all the way to his chair, and Joe Biden will have to take over the oval. If only this all came to pass.


28 posted on 12/19/2008 12:56:05 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: trumandogz

There’s one problem with what you say. Obama’s mommy may not have gone to the U.S. Kenyan Embassy in 1961 to file her foreign birth.


29 posted on 12/19/2008 12:58:20 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: autumnraine
I realize that alot of people think this is a bunch of hooey

Well they better pay attention to this and about a half dozen other things that are quietly going on behind the scenes. (not all of them having to do with Zero)

the Michigan House passed HB 6610 (the National Popular Vote Plan bill) last week.
30 posted on 12/19/2008 12:59:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Red Steel

Let’s get 0bama’s true birth documentation, whatever it consists of, into public view. This is definitely a need to know issue.


31 posted on 12/19/2008 1:00:26 PM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: All
Laws? Laws?!

"Who cares? There's no 'controlling legal authority' to enforce that Constitutional thingy about natural born citizens." Obamaphiles.

32 posted on 12/19/2008 1:00:37 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Albion Wilde; LucyT; Gemsbok; Chief Engineer; BP2; Beckwith; Jim Robinson
Nice try at misdirection. Perhaps you would like to tell us how anything in Berg's past changes anything about the affirmative action candidate?

How is Berg following the directive of clients who lost loved ones on 911 changing anything regarding Obama’s stonewalling and ineligibility?

Perhaps you would like to explain for us how Berg's past cases change the fact that Obama’s father was a British citizen thus Obama lacked parents who were Anmerican citizens and is thus not natural born, and Obama has refused to reveal any of the documentation of his adult life and his actual certificate of birth wherever he was born?

You trying to assassinate Phil Berg's character in no way changes the facts and lack of regard for the Constitution Obama is gaming for yet another affirmative action benefit.

33 posted on 12/19/2008 1:03:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Red Steel

If Mother Obama did not go to the U.S. Embassy to apply for a birth certificate, how is it that she got Baby Obama into the U.S. without documentation. I for example, was born overseas and my mama had to have documentation to get me into the U.S.

I needed that BC from the U.S. Embassy to enroll in school, play Little League, set my S.S. Card, get my U.S. Passport, my DL enroll in College etc.

How do you propose Obama did all the above things without a B.C?


34 posted on 12/19/2008 1:04:33 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: jla
Lawyer Slapped With $10K in Sanctions for 'Laundry List of Unethical Actions' Shannon P. Duffy The Legal Intelligencer July 25, 2005

Finding that a Pennsylvania lawyer had committed a "laundry list of unethical actions," a federal judge has imposed more than $10,000 in sanctions and ordered the lawyer to complete six hours of ethics training..... U.S. District Judge J. Curtis Joyner's 10-page opinion in Holsworth v. Berg is packed with criticism of the conduct of attorney Philip Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa

But the sanctions against Berg stem from his decision to file a third-party counterclaim of fraud against a pension fund that had sued his former clients, according to court papers.... Joyner blasted Berg for filing the fraud claim, calling it an "irresponsible decision" because the claim was "utterly barren of any scintilla of legal principles."

35 posted on 12/19/2008 1:05:14 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: trumandogz

“How do you propose Obama did all the above things without a B.C?”

I dunno `cause he hasn’t coughed it up—which is the whole point—but maybe by doing what a teenagers do so they can drink hard likker: faked it?


36 posted on 12/19/2008 1:11:28 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: All
Headline, 10 Jan. 2009?:

Some people "too big to risk failing Constitutional test"
SCOTUS Refuses Berg Case
"'Little people' must still meet all tests," says Court spokesman

37 posted on 12/19/2008 1:12:24 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Albion Wilde

Phil Berg is proof positive that Harvard Law produces D-minus students, too.


38 posted on 12/19/2008 1:15:04 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Albion Wilde

Wasn’t Berg just a lawyer for a 911 truther? Would you cast guilt on all lawyers for what their plantiffs did or didn’t do or what the plantiff may believe?


39 posted on 12/19/2008 1:15:39 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: trumandogz

Maybe it depends on the state. I’ve always lived in Massachusetts, and I don’t have a copy of my birth certificate. I enrolled in two colleges (UMass/Amherst and Boston University), registered to vote, got a driver’s license, etc., and never had to show my birth certificate. I do not have a passport, as I have not traveled outside the United States.


40 posted on 12/19/2008 1:20:28 PM PST by OneTimeComment
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To: Albion Wilde

Yeah, that’s a pretty ugly and hateful rant against Bush and Cheney coming from Berg. Who the hell does he think he is, a CoastToCoastAM host?.


41 posted on 12/19/2008 1:21:47 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Red Steel

The Democrat dominated congress will refuse to impeach him, and they will be resoundly defeated in 2010. Maybe, this Birth Certificate thing has more to do with Rick Warren, putting off Don’t ask Don’t Tell, and other moderate to middle choices Obama is making. He is terrified of having a large percentage of Americans calling for his head with this issue unresolved.


42 posted on 12/19/2008 1:22:28 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: trumandogz
If Mother Obama did not go to the U.S. Embassy to apply for a birth certificate, how is it that she got Baby Obama into the U.S. without documentation. I for example, was born overseas and my mama had to have documentation to get me into the U.S.

Good question. If you have been following these threads from the beginning you would know babies did not need passports in the early 60's since they traveled on their mother's passport. However, filing an FOIA with the State Department is a good idea...cover all the bases.

I needed that BC from the U.S. Embassy to enroll in school, play Little League, set my S.S. Card, get my U.S. Passport, my DL enroll in College etc.

How do you propose Obama did all the above things without a B.C?

And you would know, if you followed these Obama citizen status threads, that Hawaii issued COLBs and birth certificates to foreign born babies up to 1972.

Oh, and you do not need a birth certificate to get a passport. The State Department accepts "Secondary evidence of U.S. Citizenship" that makes it a lot easier to game the system.

So "proving your age" to play little league baseball would have been easy for Obama because the State of Hawaii once had flimsy rules in place.

43 posted on 12/19/2008 1:23:12 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Albion Wilde

So it is better to “kill” the messenger than the message???


44 posted on 12/19/2008 1:28:49 PM PST by danamco
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To: Genoa
Congress could certify the EC vote, but a disqualification could still occur afterward, couldn’t it?

I think it is called that they then have elected an "usurper" as President???

45 posted on 12/19/2008 1:32:33 PM PST by danamco
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To: MathDoc

Redacted sounds fine until you look at your own BC and wonder “What is in here that is so private the American People cannot see this”?

Most people use their drivers license and Social Security card as ID. They have never actually looked at their BC.

Still others have a passport and have had to present their Birth Certificate to the

Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):

Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport

Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*

Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth

Naturalization Certificate

Certificate of Citizenship

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

*A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/Secondary%20Evidence/Secondary%20Evidence_4315.html

If you cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, you must submit secondary evidence of U.S. citizenship. Determine what form of secondary evidence is most appropriate for your situation based on the descriptions below. Each application is handled on a case-by-case basis. The scenarios below are intended as general guidance.

Early Public Records

If you were born in the United States and cannot present primary evidence of U.S. citizenship, you may submit a combination of early public records as evidence of your U.S. citizenship. Early public records must be submitted together with a birth record or Letter of No Record (see below). Early public records should show your name, date of birth, place of birth, and preferably be created within the first five years of your life. Examples of early public records are:

Baptismal certificate
Hospital birth certificate
Census record
Early school record
Family bible record
Doctor’s record of post-natal care

Early Public Records are not acceptable when presented alone.

BTW, can any freepers give me pointers on how to edit this in HTML?


46 posted on 12/19/2008 2:04:48 PM PST by Vendome
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To: trumandogz

See post 46


47 posted on 12/19/2008 2:07:08 PM PST by Vendome
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To: Red Steel

Here is my take for what it is worth. (not much)
If Zero isn’t a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” then the time for bringing that to light has passed. Maybe if we had gone after it a year ago we might have gotten to the truth. Now the “moment” has been lost. Consider the following.

If Zero IS REALLY a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” then all the delay tactics are just to set us up to look stupid.

If Zero IS NOT a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” then the delay tactics have provided enough time for suitable “Proof” of him being a “Natural Born U.S. Citizen” to be manufactured and appropriately inserted into the record.

Does anybody here in their heart of hearts really believe that Zero, with all the money at his disposal, and all the Dems nationwide willing to break laws, blatantly, to help him, couldn’t get that done in the time allowed?

End result, we look stupid.

Personally, I believe in the second scenario....But that’s just my take.


48 posted on 12/19/2008 2:07:26 PM PST by Blackhawk (God said it, I believe it, That settles it.)
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To: Red Steel

One of these Obama non-citizenship cases is going to pop! In baseball, a superstar batting .333 actually fails 2/3 of the time. An NBA player is good if he shoots over 50% (which means he missed half the time). The bottomline is, each of these cases digs just alittle bigger hole.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


49 posted on 12/19/2008 2:10:19 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Blackhawk
Personally, I believe in the second scenario....But that’s just my take.

Somebody the other day quoted an old political aphorism: "Never interrupt your opponent when he's making a mistake."

Anyone who wonders what Obama gains by not releasing his birth certificate only has to read these threads to see the schism this is creating in conservative ranks. Why would he stop that?

50 posted on 12/19/2008 2:12:27 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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