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Lesbian's brutal gang rape investigated in Calif.
The Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 23, 2008 | LISA LEFF

Posted on 12/23/2008 5:14:06 AM PST by radar101

SAN FRANCISCO — A woman in the San Francisco Bay area was jumped by four men, taunted for being a lesbian, repeatedly raped and left naked outside an abandoned apartment building, authorities said Monday.

Detectives say the 28-year-old victim was attacked Dec. 13 after she got out of her car, which bore a rainbow gay pride sticker. The men, who ranged from their late teens to their 30s, made comments indicating they knew her sexual orientation, said Richmond police Lt. Mark Gagan.

"It just pushes it beyond fathomable," he said. "The level of trauma — physical and emotional — this victim has suffered is extreme."

Authorities are characterizing the attack as a hate crime but declined to reveal why they think the woman was singled out because of her sexual orientation. Gagan would say only that the victim lived openly with a female partner and had a rainbow flag sticker on her car.

The 45-minute attack began when one of the men approached the woman as she crossed the street, struck her with a blunt object, ordered her to disrobe and sexually assaulted her on the spot with the help of the other men.

When the group saw another person approaching, they forced the victim back into her car and took her to a burned-out apartment building, where she was raped again inside and outside the vehicle. The assailants took her wallet and drove off in her car. Officers found the car abandoned two days later.

The woman sought help from a nearby resident, and she was examined at a hospital. Although the victim said she did not know her attackers, detectives hope someone in the community knows them. One of the men went by the nickname "Blue" and another was called "Pato," according to authorities

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1 posted on 12/23/2008 5:14:06 AM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

Another unsolvable crime.
Minority (Special Interest-Gay) versus Minority (Special Interest-Hispanic)
Pato in Spanish is Duck.


2 posted on 12/23/2008 5:15:34 AM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

In the other article Blue was a black guy and the other three latino’s.This story just doesn’t sound right,


3 posted on 12/23/2008 5:20:34 AM PST by eastforker
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To: radar101

Obviously Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 12/23/2008 5:20:56 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: radar101

She felt compelled to let the world know she was gay...and armed with this information, these hoodlums decided to make a statement to the contrary.


5 posted on 12/23/2008 5:21:27 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: Ouderkirk

Come on people! Gay or not no one deserves what happened to this woman! There is no justification what so ever. The previous posts make me sick. You clowns are no better than the morons on DU!


6 posted on 12/23/2008 5:27:40 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: sean327

If it really happened the way it has been reported. I have my doubts if we are getting all the facts. For one, blacks and latino’sjust don’t hang out together, much less being together as a gang as they are portrayed. I think someone is no telling the truth.


7 posted on 12/23/2008 5:33:32 AM PST by eastforker
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To: sean327

No one does deserve what happened to this woman. Having said that, the bookies would probably give you odds that this will be treated as a ‘hate crime’, with the attendant sturm und drang that would not follow if the woman was a self-proclaimed heterosexual. Even though that woman’s rape would be no less brutal.


8 posted on 12/23/2008 5:38:11 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: radar101
Skolnik said the group plans to analyze hate crime data to see whether fluctuations may be related to the gay marriage bans that appeared on ballots this year in California, Arizona and Florida.
"Anytime there is an anti-LGBT initiative, we tend to see spikes both in the numbers and the severity of attacks," he said. "People feel this extra entitlement to act out their prejudice."

What a load! I doubt very much that this was just because of her lifestyle. It was a bunch of rapists thugs that also wanted some money since they took her wallet too.

9 posted on 12/23/2008 5:39:05 AM PST by DejaJude (Proud denizen of the fighting fringe and an Arizona zealot.)
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To: PzLdr

I don’t like the so called Hate Crime designations either. I also don’t like the fact that some here seem take joy in what happened to her. Call me crazy, but it turns my stomach.


10 posted on 12/23/2008 5:42:55 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: sean327

The bottom line here is that no, she didn’t deserve what happened to her.

But plastered all over in the story, is that she’s a lesbian, has that stupid flag plastered on her car.

If she wanted to be a lesbian, fine. Not a problem. The point is that: why does she need to advertise it?

Isn’t such advertisement an invitation to rebuttal?

These scumbags decided to give her a counter argument.

I don’t agree with what they did, but the story is, that a woman was raped. Period. The motivation of the perpetrators is irrelevant, yet this story is all about raising awareness, isn’t it.

I’m quite tired of having my awareness raised.


11 posted on 12/23/2008 5:45:34 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: sean327
Agree that it is a heinous crime and the perpetrators deserve the death penalty. What I object to, however, is the “hate crime” classification and inference that rape of a lesbian is much more of a crime than rape of a straight woman. What is worse is that they are trying to tie this in to the vote against gay marriage.
13 posted on 12/23/2008 5:51:19 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: Ouderkirk
Isn’t such advertisement an invitation to rebuttal?

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No.

And, gang rape is not a 'rebuttal', except to these animals and, it seems, you.

14 posted on 12/23/2008 5:55:15 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: sean327

You are so right.

Freeper is way above the disgusting comments I saw.

We can make comments, but the crap needs to stay on DU!


15 posted on 12/23/2008 5:57:22 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: radar101

Yet another reason that the penalty for these types of crimes needs to be castration or execution.


16 posted on 12/23/2008 5:57:52 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Boiling Pots

Don’t think most lesbians have penises, but then I’m no expert.

Better to say you aren’t interested in how other people derive sexual pleasure, as long as it isn’t with a minor or forced on another person.


17 posted on 12/23/2008 5:58:40 AM PST by JeanLM
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To: wtc911

Good point.

what if she had been someone with a palin sticker on her car? The hate crime legislation can be argued, but to call this rape a “rebuttal” is more fitting for Moveon.org sites.


18 posted on 12/23/2008 5:59:23 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: wtc911
No.

And, gang rape is not a 'rebuttal', except to these animals and, it seems, you

really... when one makes a public statement like that, then in your mind no-one has the right to make a counter argument?

The story here is that this woman was brutally raped by several men. Period. Why is it because she was gay, other than it was plastered on her car. What if it was because she was white and not gay, or drove a subaru, or some such.

You have taken the writers pro-homosexual/hate crime bait....hook, line, and sinker.

19 posted on 12/23/2008 6:04:38 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: sean327

“Come on people! Gay or not no one deserves what happened to this woman! There is no justification what so ever. The previous posts make me sick. You clowns are no better than the morons on DU!”

Agreed. I think these scumbags would have attacked her even without the rainbow sticker — they just wanted a victim. I hope they punish the bastards!


20 posted on 12/23/2008 6:04:55 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: sean327
Come on people! Gay or not no one deserves what happened to this woman!

Agree 100%

But would this even be in the news if not for the lesbian angle?

22 posted on 12/23/2008 6:11:11 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: radar101

Wouldn’t this be a brutal crime n matter what the victim’s orientation is?

Would it not be so bad if the victim was heterosexual?


23 posted on 12/23/2008 6:17:37 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Umm, yes.


24 posted on 12/23/2008 6:18:54 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Ouderkirk
really... when one makes a public statement like that, then in your mind no-one has the right to make a counter argument?

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No, by all means, explain to us why, to you, rape is a rebuttal of a rainbow sticker and why rape as a counter-argument is your right.

25 posted on 12/23/2008 6:19:56 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Ouderkirk

they didn’t “make a statement”.

Rape and violence is animal thuggery.


26 posted on 12/23/2008 6:21:55 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: 1rudeboy

Disagree, the story is she’s a lesbian. IIRC, this happened 9 or ten days ago. It didn’t become news worthy until they found out the lebian angle.


27 posted on 12/23/2008 6:22:17 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Where I live, a woman raped by four men is news.


28 posted on 12/23/2008 6:23:44 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: radar101
The rape of an innocent child wouldn't get this much ink. I guess the MSM has decided to matters and who doesn't. And we and our loved ones are not among them.
29 posted on 12/23/2008 6:30:12 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: 1rudeboy

It was news up in NC at Duke also, but, we all know now that it didn’t happen either.


30 posted on 12/23/2008 6:33:23 AM PST by eastforker
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To: sean327

Come on people! Gay or not no one deserves what happened to this woman!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Very true but still I wonder about someone who wants to advertise that they are homosexual. If I rode around with a sign saying that I belong to the straight redneck coalition I can guarantee that people would find that strange. In fact some group of gays would probably try to force me to stop it on the grounds that it is desrespectful to gay people.


31 posted on 12/23/2008 6:33:38 AM PST by RipSawyer (Great Grandpa was a Confederate soldier from the cradle of secession.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Where I live, a woman raped by four men is news.

And it should be. Do they mention if she's heterosexual? If she is and she were to be raped by homosexual men, would it be a hate crime?

People are rebelling against the special "rights" homo's are being afforded and then having it shoved in their faces.

32 posted on 12/23/2008 6:33:52 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Scotswife

They did make a statement.....It is implied in the premise of the article.

Which is the point of my original comment.


33 posted on 12/23/2008 6:34:43 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: GOPJ

The rape of an innocent child wouldn’t get this much ink.
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Jesse Dirkhising was raped and killed by two disgusting gay monsters years ago and probably not one person in a thousand has ever heard the name but everyone has heard of Matthew Shephard.


34 posted on 12/23/2008 6:36:42 AM PST by RipSawyer (Great Grandpa was a Confederate soldier from the cradle of secession.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
People are rebelling against the special "rights" homo's are being afforded and then having it shoved in their faces.

More power to them. But that's not what's happening here. The woman (presumably) claims she was taunted for being a lesbian, and it's newsworthy.

35 posted on 12/23/2008 6:37:15 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DejaJude

Just for the record...

I feel that people who rape (no matter who the victim is)are the lowest form of scum on earth but I have to say just one thing.

Something doesn’t smell right.....

Remember the Duke Rape (Lie) Scandal.

What if this made up...I read the news article (she was examined) but I never did see any confirmation that she indeed had been raped.

Don’t flame me...I’m just erring (sp?) on the side of caution


36 posted on 12/23/2008 6:39:32 AM PST by Huskr4Bush
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To: sean327
...There is no justification what so ever...

The crime victim did nothing to merit the attack, her sexuality is immaterial. I too am uncomfortable with some of the opinions expressed here and on other posts at FR. Orchestrated slime to disgust sane people or a take over by the radicals.

37 posted on 12/23/2008 6:39:39 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: RipSawyer
Jesse Dirkhising was raped and killed by two disgusting gay monsters years ago and probably not one person in a thousand has ever heard the name but everyone has heard of Matthew Shephard.

The MSM doesn't cover stories of homosexual monsters raping or torturing anyone. I'm stunned you would have heard of it...

38 posted on 12/23/2008 6:41:48 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
after she got out of her car, which bore a rainbow gay pride sticker.

DO YOU SEE THIS?!?!?! IT SAYS A RAINBOW STICKER MEANS GAY PRIDE!!!

You said it would make people think I was a cop! So I wouldn't get tickets anymore!!!

I'VE BEEN DRIVING AROUND WITH THAT ON MY CAR FOR MONTHS!!!

Ha-ha, very funny. I don't even know why I'm friends with you anymore. When you told me Million Dollar Baby was just like Rocky and my seven year old son would like it, that's all the warning I should have needed.

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

39 posted on 12/23/2008 6:43:03 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Huskr4Bush

Those are my thoughts from the get go. Something just don’t smell right(no pun intended).


40 posted on 12/23/2008 6:43:10 AM PST by eastforker
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To: Ouderkirk

I’ve never understood why lesbians feel so much kinship with the male homosexual...”community”.


41 posted on 12/23/2008 6:43:14 AM PST by onedoug
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To: eastforker
In the other article Blue was a black guy and the other three latino’s.This story just doesn’t sound right,

So, in other words, they were members of the two demographic groups that put Prop. 8 over the top in the last election. Hmmm... Fishy indeed!

42 posted on 12/23/2008 6:45:36 AM PST by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 1rudeboy
But you didn't address the questions I proposed and you know what the answers are.

If what you say is true, why wasn't it news worthy the day it happened?

43 posted on 12/23/2008 6:46:27 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

How do you know it wasn’t newsworthy? You live near SF?


44 posted on 12/23/2008 6:50:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: wtc911
Detectives say the 28-year-old victim was attacked Dec. 13 after she got out of her car, which bore a rainbow gay pride sticker.

This happened 10 days ago.

Authorities are characterizing the attack as a hate crime but declined to reveal why they think the woman was singled out because of her sexual orientation. Gagan would say only that the victim lived openly with a female partner and had a rainbow flag sticker on her car.

The article makes a point of mentioning this repeatedly. Why the focus on the rainbow sticker? And how exactly is it that the rape of a gay woman by thugs is any different that a straight woman being raped by these same thugs.

You don't think that it's relevent?

How about: a woman was brutally raped by four thugs who left her abandoned in some crappy neighborhood.

What if they raped her because she was White, or Black, or Asian, or whatever. How is it that this crime, is any more heinous than the same crime committed for different reasons?

45 posted on 12/23/2008 6:52:51 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: 1rudeboy
Again, you won't address my questions. If you would think about them and answer them honestly, you would see the point that I and other FReepers are trying to make and why the homo angle irritates them.
46 posted on 12/23/2008 6:54:38 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Actually, one of your questions is silly and you should be embarassed for asking it, and the other “if four homosexuals raped a heterosexual while taunting him or her about their sexual preference” then the answer is yes, it would be prosecuted as a hate crime.


47 posted on 12/23/2008 7:00:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Ouderkirk

I nno way did she deserve that. It makes me effing sick that she went through such a thing. I don’t think they cared about her orientation, they saw a female they thought was attractive and did the most vile, disgusting thing.

No excuse. If she had been wearing a miniskirt and tube top, would you feel she deserved it? Zero excuse and she should have been left alone either way.


48 posted on 12/23/2008 7:08:26 AM PST by Niuhuru (I'm A Racist and Proud Of It!)
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To: 1rudeboy
“if four homosexuals raped a heterosexual while taunting him or her about their sexual preference” then the answer is yes, it would be prosecuted as a hate crime..Lol...you're living in a dream world if you believe that. Jesse Dirkson(sp) ring any bells?

The questions aren't silly, they drive home the point and you know it.

You should be embarrassed for your naivete of lack of intellectual honesty

49 posted on 12/23/2008 7:09:10 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Thanks. And you should google “confirmation bias.” If you are smart enough, you’ll recognize it.


50 posted on 12/23/2008 7:11:18 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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