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Silent Night Banned

Posted on 12/23/2008 6:47:13 AM PST by BulletBobCo

My 12 year old daughter has been part of a small choir that her piano teacher has put together. They have been singing Christmas carols at different venues this last week. Yesterday, after work, I picked her up and drove her to a Macy's for her to perform. As I was watching her little group do their numbers, the piano teacher's father informed me that Macy's had asked his daughter not to perform "Silent Night". I asked him if he was kidding and he said no. He told me that last Saturday, they sang "Silent Night" at a Starbucks, and people actually got up and left. What is so wrong with singing "Silent Night"?


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1 posted on 12/23/2008 6:47:13 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

but Ramadan carols would be most welcome!


2 posted on 12/23/2008 6:48:50 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: BulletBobCo
It's called bigotry.
3 posted on 12/23/2008 6:49:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are the opium of the people.)
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To: BulletBobCo

People got up and left? So what is the problem? If they were offended, that is better than filing a lawsuit or starting a fight. As for banning the song, I would defy anyone try that here in North Carolina.


4 posted on 12/23/2008 6:49:29 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: BulletBobCo
they sang "Silent Night" at a Starbucks, and people actually got up and left.

And the problem is what, exactly? They vote with their feet as it should be. The shop owner can vote by not allowing them back in.

Non-problem solved.

5 posted on 12/23/2008 6:50:22 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: BulletBobCo
and people actually got up and left.

Maybe they were done their coffee and wanted to get on with their shopping or go home. Performing for a casual audience, rather than one that purposely came to hear the music, means that some people are going to move on.

6 posted on 12/23/2008 6:51:29 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Hairless men weird me out worse than hairless cats." ~Trailerpark Badass)
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To: BulletBobCo

Macy’s can take their red star and STUFF IT!


7 posted on 12/23/2008 6:51:47 AM PST by WellyP
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To: BulletBobCo

Macys is one of the worst of the War on Christmas types. Stores like Target, Home Depot, and especially Lowes have all responded to complaints they have removed Christmas (How many times can Lowes say Christmas in one TV ad-WOW!!! lol)

Macys is a fixture at sponsoring homosexual events with no fear of offending anyone, but mention Jesus—nooooooooo!!!!


8 posted on 12/23/2008 6:51:58 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: BulletBobCo
Macy's had asked his daughter not to perform "Silent Night".

The spending money part of Christmas is still quite acceptable at Macy's.

9 posted on 12/23/2008 6:53:18 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: BulletBobCo

Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was almost grounded at Murrayville Elementary School after a parent complained about the word Christmas in the song.


10 posted on 12/23/2008 6:53:18 AM PST by seastay
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To: BulletBobCo

We need to start looking for another planet to colonize. There is no hope of saving this one...


11 posted on 12/23/2008 6:54:23 AM PST by tubebender (Retirement...The art and science of Killing time before it Kills you...)
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To: BulletBobCo

Christmas:
The Creator of the Universe, Judge of us all, incarnating Himself as a human in order that we might be absolved of our sins against Him, and be reconciled with Him.

That’s what’s “wrong” with it. It reminds folks that they are on the wrong road.


12 posted on 12/23/2008 6:54:38 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: BulletBobCo

Perhaps they should sing “Silent Scream” instead..................


13 posted on 12/23/2008 6:55:20 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: BulletBobCo

Tell them “X-mas” is a holiday honoring Malcolm X and they would probably print full color flyers and have all of hte top Hollywood performers out the celebrate it.


14 posted on 12/23/2008 6:56:25 AM PST by Blogger
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To: BulletBobCo
He told me that last Saturday, they sang "Silent Night" at a Starbucks, and people actually got up and left. What is so wrong with singing "Silent Night"?

I think that "Silent Night" evokes fear in a way that almost no other carol can do.

IMO, folks who are "offended" by it, are often the ones who are being pressed hardest by God, and they're fighting against it. "Silent Night" scares them because it is something against which they have no argument -- it embodies the Peace that passeth all understanding, and it draws them in.

15 posted on 12/23/2008 6:56:34 AM PST by r9etb
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To: BulletBobCo

He did say that we would suffer persecution because of Him. The world proves it every day.


16 posted on 12/23/2008 6:56:57 AM PST by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: Tax-chick
"Maybe they were done their coffee and wanted to get on with their shopping or go home."

Maybe they're just really bad singers(?)

18 posted on 12/23/2008 6:57:30 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Red Badger
Perhaps they should sing “Silent Scream” instead..................

I think that Macys would have prefered they sang one of Obama's favorites..."Grandma got run over by a reindeer"

19 posted on 12/23/2008 6:58:00 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

anyplace where people are so dumb as to show of their prosterity by drinking four dollar coffee is bound to be infested with libs, who want the presents christmas portends, but cannot stand to even think about why christmas exists at all.


20 posted on 12/23/2008 6:59:28 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: BulletBobCo

Silent Night is all it takes to drive away liberals? That’s good to know. I’ll sing it all year long now. It’s easier to carry a tune than a trunk full of silver bullets and wooden stakes.


21 posted on 12/23/2008 7:00:40 AM PST by azcap
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To: Red Badger
At least 80% of the people in America currently are Christians.

So WHO do we have to blame? OURSELVES.

As long as we sit back and let the small minority of bigots and anti-Christians have their way, they will.

And that applies to SO MUCH ELSE in this country where we, the majority, have permitted a vocal vicious minority to inflict their views and perspectives on the Majority.

Its one thing to respect minority rights. Its quite another to allow minority opinions dominate the culture.

I know what Sam Adams, Tom Paine and the rest of them would do in situations like this, and perhaps its time we emulated them.

22 posted on 12/23/2008 7:01:12 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: BulletBobCo

“Grandma got run over by a campaign bus...”


23 posted on 12/23/2008 7:01:44 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: azcap
Silent Night is all it takes to drive away liberals? That’s good to know. I’ll sing it all year long now. It’s easier to carry a tune than a trunk full of silver bullets and wooden stakes.

Good point.

24 posted on 12/23/2008 7:01:47 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo
What is so wrong with singing "Silent Night"?

They hate Jesus.

25 posted on 12/23/2008 7:02:53 AM PST by chapin2500
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To: Joe 6-pack
Maybe they're just really bad singers(?)

Maybe a few customers are nitpickers like me, who don't want to hear Christmas music until Christmas (which Officially starts at sundown tomorrow). Anyway, there are a lot of reasons, other than religious objection to a particular song, why people might leave a business establishment during a performance.

26 posted on 12/23/2008 7:03:13 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Hairless men weird me out worse than hairless cats." ~Trailerpark Badass)
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To: BulletBobCo

Singing Slilent Night in Starbucks? About on a par with doing 10 minutes of Mohammed stand-up comedy in Tehran! Personally I think I would wotk to get the story out and picket the Macys store...let potential customers know who they’re buying from. Might have a big effect, especially before Christmas.


27 posted on 12/23/2008 7:04:24 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: ZULU

Don’t forget, though, that a good portion of that 80% answered that they are “Christians” because their family was Christian.

There ARE some willing Satan’s minions at work out there, but, unfortunately, most that are doing his bidding are doing so out of wilful ignorance.


28 posted on 12/23/2008 7:05:12 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MrB

“Don’t forget, though, that a good portion of that 80% answered that they are “Christians” because their family was Christian.”

Scary thought. Londonistan may be closer than we think.


29 posted on 12/23/2008 7:08:41 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: BulletBobCo

I wish I shopped at Macy’s so I could boycott ‘em.


30 posted on 12/23/2008 7:08:43 AM PST by Allegra
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To: BulletBobCo

Maybe they had finished their coffee and needed to get back to work?


31 posted on 12/23/2008 7:09:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: icwhatudo

I refuse to shop at Macy’s. One because of their politics and two, because they have a bunch of over priced crap that I can get elsewhere much, much cheaper.

A friend of mine who got married this past summer was registered at only Macy’s. I asked her if there was anything else she would like that wasn’t on her registry because I refuse to spend money there. She didn’t get it, but I didn’t expect her to.

So she a Lowes giftcard.


32 posted on 12/23/2008 7:11:07 AM PST by JenB987
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To: tbpiper

“The spending money part of Christmas is still quite acceptable at Macy’s.”

And here is the beauty of it all. I will no longer spend money at Macy’s. Macy’s might want to look at the NY Times business model to forecast their future earnings.

Democracy in action.


33 posted on 12/23/2008 7:13:46 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: BulletBobCo

Nothing is wrong with singing “Silent Night”

Just do it in Spanish and the intolerant left will tolerate it.

(Maybe the people in Starbucks just had better things to do than sit and listen to kids warble ... many people go there for their own conversations, not to be entertained )


34 posted on 12/23/2008 7:13:52 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: MrB
The Creator of the Universe, Judge of us all, incarnating Himself as a human in order that we might be absolved of our sins against Him, and be reconciled with Him.

That’s what’s “wrong” with it. It reminds folks that they are on the wrong road.

It's a remindser that the begin-all and end-all does not center around them.

35 posted on 12/23/2008 7:13:55 AM PST by uglybiker (1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d 2 g3t l41d)
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To: BulletBobCo

“Silent Night is all it takes to drive away liberals? That’s good to know. I’ll sing it all year long now. It’s easier to carry a tune than a trunk full of silver bullets and wooden stakes.

Good point.”

They are libs. You still need the stakes and bullets.


36 posted on 12/23/2008 7:16:22 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: tubebender

‘We need to start looking for another planet to colonize. There is no hope of saving this one...’


Scotty, beam us up.


37 posted on 12/23/2008 7:17:09 AM PST by unkus
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To: BulletBobCo

ok, i’m at a loss over how the libs can justify the attack on Christianity. they claim they are trying to avoid offending people, but that just doesn’t track.

for instance, if 85% of the US is Christian, and 95% celebrate Christmas (i’ve never been sure how that works)... then you add the 3% that are jewish... you would cover 98% of the US population by saying ‘Merry Christmas and happy Hanukkah’

in that situation, you run a risk of ‘offending’ 2% of the population. BUT, if you deliberately ignore one of the biggest holy days in the Christian faith, you run a risk of pissing off at least a 25-30% of the Christians.

this is FAR worse, isn’t it? how can the business types actually justify it?

meanwhile, in this commercial atmosphere... if 30% of the population is pissed, and you decided to ‘come out of the closet’ and actually start ENDORSING Christmas, your company could reap the benefit of that pissed off 30% coming to your stores instead

thoughts?


38 posted on 12/23/2008 7:17:35 AM PST by sten
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“So she a Lowes giftcard.”

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Would that be the Lowe’s that is enabling a dual language America via their bilingual in-store signage?


39 posted on 12/23/2008 7:17:35 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Blogger

“Tell them “X-mas” is a holiday honoring Malcolm X and they would probably print full color flyers and have all of hte top Hollywood performers out the celebrate it.”

And if Charlie Rangel and Al Sharpton went into Harlem and said this, my bet is 75% of the constituents would believe it.


40 posted on 12/23/2008 7:17:39 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: BulletBobCo
What moron would go to Starbucks and pay $5.00 for a cup of 50 cent cup coffee anyway?
I for one will not spend a dime in anyplace that has declared war on American cultural traditions.
To h*ll with these rotten Christmas haters, boycott their places of business is I plan to do! We real Americans still have the power to spend where we like.
41 posted on 12/23/2008 7:17:58 AM PST by Reflex ((same socialist crapola different day))
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We don't shop at Macy's or Starbucks. They are too far to the LEFT. They are as secular and anti-God as you can get.

Look closely at the lyrics and you'll see why they find Silent Night offensive.

Silent night, holy night
All is calm, all is bright
Round yon Virgin Mother and Child
Holy Infant so tender and mild
Sleep in heavenly peace
Sleep in heavenly peace

Silent night, holy night
Shepherds quake at the sight
Glories stream from heaven afar
Heavenly hosts sing Hallelujah
Christ, the Savior is born
Christ, the Savior is born

Silent night, holy night
Son of God, love's pure light
Radiant beams from Thy holy face
With the dawn of redeeming grace
Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth
Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth
Silent night, holy night
All is calm, all is bright
Round yon Virgin Mother and Child
Holy Infant so tender and mild
Sleep in heavenly peace
Sleep in heavenly peace

42 posted on 12/23/2008 7:18:07 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: icwhatudo
Macys is one of the worst of the War on Christmas types. Stores like Target, Home Depot, and especially Lowes have all responded to complaints they have removed Christmas (How many times can Lowes say Christmas in one TV ad-WOW!!! lol)

Sadly they have gone the way of Dizzney. They used to be one of the best, the Tanksgiving day parade capped off by the Jolly old elf. Miracle on 34th street, etc...

43 posted on 12/23/2008 7:19:13 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: sten

Your logic is sound.

It requires however an enraged and mobilized Christian population.

Coming soon (I hope) to a town near you.

I think we are reaching the tipping point on this and other issues dictated by loud mouthed minorities, whose views are HUGELY over-represented in American society.


44 posted on 12/23/2008 7:20:33 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: BulletBobCo

Obama will ban Christmas w/in 4 yrs.

Pray for W, America and Our Troops


45 posted on 12/23/2008 7:28:18 AM PST by bray (Gov Palin isn't corrupt enough for DC)
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To: BulletBobCo
Macy's had asked his daughter not to perform "Silent Night".. What is so wrong with singing "Silent Night"?
What's so wrong... easy:
  1. "Holy" night.
  2. "Virgin" Mother
  3. "Holy Infant"
  4. "heavenly" peace
  5. "Glories" stream "from heaven" afar
  6. "Heavenly" hosts
  7. "Christ, the Saviour"
  8. "Son of God"
  9. "Thy holy face"
  10. "Jesus, Lord", at Thy birth
Hearing those words would make the Satan Worshipers who own Macy's to turn into pillars of salt, or spontaneously burst into flames.

And I'm only 'semi' joking. Macy's is evil.

46 posted on 12/23/2008 7:28:33 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: BulletBobCo
He told me that last Saturday, they sang "Silent Night" at a Starbucks,

Holy cow! They actually sang "Silent Night" at Starbucks? That's like holding up a cross at a DNC meeting, crossing oneself in an organic market or mentioning God in school. Very ballsy.

47 posted on 12/23/2008 7:33:20 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
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To: seastay

How can you complain about the word Christmas being in a song about Christmas?

To me one parent complaining about something like this should get a response of “oh shuddup”.


48 posted on 12/23/2008 7:35:00 AM PST by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: Condor51
I sang 'Stille Nacht' in the original German a couple weeks ago (albeit in church)...

I'd like to see what happens when it is sung in German.

49 posted on 12/23/2008 7:35:08 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It's called bigotry.

Exactly.
50 posted on 12/23/2008 7:35:56 AM PST by Vision ("Test everything. Hold on to the Good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21)
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