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Proposal would let unwed partners adopt [Homosexual adoption in Utah]
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 12/23/2008 | Rosemary Winters

Posted on 12/24/2008 8:04:38 AM PST by TheDon

Liam Thompson, who turns 2 next month, calls Debbie Thompson "Mama." But to the state of Utah, she cannot be more than the boy's legal guardian.

Thompson's wife, Reanna Thompson -- the couple were married in Montreal in 2004 and Reanna took Debbie's last name -- gave birth to Liam, with the help of a sperm donor, on Jan. 4, 2007.

Utah law forbids anyone in a cohabiting relationship -- gay or straight -- from adopting a child or serving as a foster parent. Single adults of any sexual orientation can adopt, but preference goes to married couples.

But in 2009, Rep. Rebecca Chavez-Houck, D-Salt Lake City, hopes to reverse the 2000 law that forbids all unmarried couples from serving as adoptive or foster parents. (Same-sex marriages, like the Thompsons', are not recognized by Utah, which has a constitutional ban on such unions.)

She acknowledged it will be "difficult" to get Utah's conservative Legislature to sign off on her "Forever Homes for Every Child" bill, which she submitted to the 2008 session but it never got out of the House Rules Committee.

"My gut feeling says we're not even going to see that bill in the Senate," said Senate President-elect Michael Waddoups, R-Taylorsville.

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"We have room in our lives and our home for other children. We would love to be able to take a child who needs a chance, and the state won't let us," Debbie Thompson said. ...

"It is one of the most powerless and terrifying circumstances for me," she said. "Unlike most parents in Utah, I walk around with a copy of my legal-guardianship papers."

(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: childabuse; culturewar; gaystapo; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; pedophiles; perverts; samesexadoption; samesexparents

Caption for second photo (christmas lights): Debbie Thompson (left) and her wife, Reanna Thompson, pose in front of the lights at Temple Square with their son, Liam. Debbie is unable to legally adopt Liam, who is Reanna's biological son, because Utah law does not recognize their Canada marriage and prevents unmarried couples from adopting. Photo courtesy of Debbie Thompson

Poor kids! Children should not be subjected to homosexual parents.

1 posted on 12/24/2008 8:04:39 AM PST by TheDon
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To: TheDon

They say that homosexuality is about consenting adults in private.

When does the adopted child consent to be brought up in an alternative lifestyle household?


2 posted on 12/24/2008 8:08:26 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: TheDon

I agree, all homosexuals should be sterilised.


3 posted on 12/24/2008 8:08:35 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: TheDon

“who is Reanna’s biological son”

Where is daddy?


4 posted on 12/24/2008 8:09:09 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: weegee

If two Divorced Straight men whose own kids have grown and miss being Little League dads adopt?


5 posted on 12/24/2008 8:14:09 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: TheDon

I think that any couple or single should be allowed to adopt.

Ideally, everyone would be raised by their loving, committed, and wealthy biological parents, but that is not always the case. I just met a sixty something widow that adopted a disabled and mentally challenged child with a whole array of medical problems. When I asked her why she would burden herself like that, she told me its the Christian thing to do.

I see no reason why children should be denied a loving home. I don’t care if its a pair of dykes, or two church going spinster sisters, if a person or two people are willing to raise an orphan, power to them. Anything is better than a tax payer funded government orphanage.


6 posted on 12/24/2008 8:19:47 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: TheDon

So two homosexual pedophiles can adopt small children so they don’t have to hunt them down on the streets where they can get caught.

Instead the government will give them a fresh supply of young’ens.


7 posted on 12/24/2008 8:41:10 AM PST by stockpirate (ACORN voter fraud, illegal campaign donations, COLB, where is the conservative anger?)
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To: TheDon
Children should not be subjected to homosexual parents.

Children should not be subjected to homosexual parents PEDOPHILES.

8 posted on 12/24/2008 8:47:37 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: stockpirate

What you say is exactly correct...


9 posted on 12/24/2008 8:48:49 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: stockpirate

You’ve described the motive for the sodomite infestation of Big Brothers, Girl Scouts, and attempted infestation of Boy Scouts. On the foster care/adoption side some of them are trying advance the perception that their death-style is “normal” and should be accepted. In any event it is bad or dangerous for children, and contrary to a troll who posted, a government run orphanage would be better than allowing sodomite adoption or foster care.


10 posted on 12/24/2008 8:51:03 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: TheDon

Come on now Mormons’ We’re proud of you defending TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE in California, however you NEED to win this battle in your home state!

What can I do to help (I guess I can pray for your fight out there): Merry Christmas!


11 posted on 12/24/2008 8:58:08 AM PST by JSDude1 (Like the failed promise of Fascism masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism- Nephi)
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To: zarodinu
I see no reason why children should be denied a loving home.

That's the problem. The odds of it being a 'loving' home are just way too high. Gay people make the most pedophiles, the odds are against the children from the outset.

12 posted on 12/24/2008 9:08:49 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: JSDude1

If you notice, the Utah Senate President has signaled that the bill won’t even make it out of committee. The queers have been exploiting the anti-Mormon sentiment arising after Prop. 8 to attempt to get some headlines here in Utah. They’ve submitted a whole stack of bills. It won’t work.


13 posted on 12/24/2008 9:13:36 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: TheDon

I want to be a dictator and prescribe what I am sure some would call a “reproductive dark age”.

I do not believe in any form of artificial insemination, or artificial reproduction with humans, for any reason whatsoever.

First: there is no shortage of children who need to be, and never get to be adopted; so those who cannot conceive are not forced to use artificial insemination, just to fulfill their personal desire to be parents; they simply chose it over adoption.

Second: usually when I am reading the first person accounts of (or listening to interviews with) parents who chose an artificial reproduction method, the entire project seems to be all about them - the parent; their need, their desire - not the children.

And, most of all, when it comes to same-sex couples who decide to “make a child” artificially (as opposed to children they may have had, naturally, in a previous marriage) there seems to be no regard to the conditions they are placing on the child, which they dismiss with their simple belief that they too can be “good parents”.

But, somehow, no matter how much of a set of “good parents” ANY adoptive parents are, a majority of adopted children eventually (by nature?, by natural instinct?) want to make contact with their natural parents (if they have learned they were adopted). I imagine the same must be true, in time, for “fatherless” persons who are told only that your father was “sperm donor number 62384”.

Given the truth of this, why can’t such narcicistic parents understand that their personal, selfish ambition to have a child, in spite of shunning the natural circumstances of having child, will, present a void that no amount of “good parenting” can fill completely. It is selfish of them to decide that they can roll the dice, with their child, on how much they can fill that void, simply because THEY want to fulfill their desire to “be a parent”. They want to “be a parent” but they don’t want to make the choices IT NATURALLY - the self-sacrifices it naturally - takes to do that.

One can only anticipate that the parenting result (mindset of the children raised by them) will increase the propensity in the population for “artificial insemination”, and increase the avoidance of the fundamental relationship-building that natural parenting requires.

Thus, if I could dictate it to be so, I would would decree that the use of artificial means to human reproduction is so ethically challenged, fundamentally, that it would not be allowed.


14 posted on 12/24/2008 9:33:17 AM PST by Wuli
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To: zarodinu

Welcome newbie troll

zarodinu
Since Nov 27, 2008

So it’s okay if two males homosexual pedophile adopt small boys to use as they please? BeHIND closed doors.


15 posted on 12/24/2008 9:42:30 AM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: achilles2000
In any event it is bad or dangerous for children, and contrary to a troll who posted, a government run orphanage would be better than allowing sodomite adoption or foster care.

I have to agree.

16 posted on 12/24/2008 10:43:50 AM PST by TheDon
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To: TheDon

“Children should not be subjected to homosexual parents. “

They aren’t even parents. They are pretend parents.


17 posted on 12/24/2008 10:50:27 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: stockpirate

Most pedophiles are heterosexuals, there is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia that I am aware of. No, pedo’s shouldn’t be allowed to adopt, DUH.


18 posted on 12/24/2008 10:56:25 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: zarodinu

“Most pedophiles are heterosexuals, there is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia that I am aware of. No, pedo’s shouldn’t be allowed to adopt, DUH”

Shows how dumb you are.

A male pedophole who is hetrosexual molestes girls.

A male pedophile who molestes boys is a homosexual, regradless of who he is married too.

There is a huge connection between homosexuals and pedophiles, as a matter of fact gays refer to them as chicken hawks and they march in gay pride parades.

Read Dr. Cairns six books on sex addiction.

NMBLA, National Man Boy Love Assn’s motto is after 8 is too late. And they always march in gay pride parades.

But you know that don’t you, you’ve been to enough of them.


19 posted on 12/24/2008 11:05:05 AM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: achilles2000

If you think that a government run orphanage is superior to a same sex household, its only fair that you pay for these orphanages and I don’t. Any couple or individual that wants kids but can’t have them is a gift, the couple wins, the child wins, and the taxpayer wins.


20 posted on 12/24/2008 11:07:49 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: stockpirate

The most ignorant thing I have ever read.

Homosexuals are attracted to adults of the same sex, heterosexuals are attracted to adults of the opposite sex. Pedo’s are attracted to kids. All research done indicates that pedo’s are almost always heterosexual. By far, most pedo’s are male so lesbian couples are far less likely to molest their kids than heterosexual ones. All pedo’s should be shot.

Orphaned children need a home, any loving couple or single who is willing to raise another couples child is doing that child a huge favor. Opposite sex couples are ideal but anything is better than a government foster home (usually followed by government jail).


21 posted on 12/24/2008 11:23:55 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: zarodinu

All research does not show all hetrosexuals. What a bold faced lie.

A person that is attracted to the same sex is homosexual. A person attracted to childern of the same sex are homosexual pedophiles.

A person attracted to opposite sex children are hetrosexual pedophiles.


22 posted on 12/24/2008 11:33:19 AM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: zarodinu

Starting to chug the Yuletide schnapps a little early? The children don’t win, and the social costs imposed by the sodomites are incalculably large. By the way, what do you really know about the sodomite lifestyle? What the liberals tell you through television and the print media?


23 posted on 12/24/2008 11:34:50 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: stockpirate

What about the majority of pedophiles who are attracted to both adult females and boys? Most male pedo’s are attracted to adult females but also bugger boys in their spare time.


24 posted on 12/24/2008 11:49:19 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: achilles2000

I don’t know much about the “sodomite lifestyle” beyond what I learned in three years of living in Ithaca, NY.

I did however meet alot of abused and orphaned kids in my line of work. I could never raise another man’s child, but if a pair of dykes is willing to do that, power to them. I could care less about the couple, but a child needs a home even if its an imperfect one.

As for the Yuletide schnapps, its my God given right to be drunk on my day off.

Merry Christmas *hick*


25 posted on 12/24/2008 12:08:10 PM PST by zarodinu
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To: zarodinu

You need to read more than just comic books.

What about one-legged pedophiles who also enjoy barn yard animals and fowl?

Try bi-sexual for your anwer.


26 posted on 12/24/2008 12:31:44 PM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: zarodinu

I see your confusion. They use the marriage as a screen that allows them to have their own children to molest.

Most if not ALL male homosexuals were molested as young boys by a male.


27 posted on 12/24/2008 12:33:33 PM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: zarodinu

“What about the majority of pedophiles who are attracted to both adult females and boys? Most male pedo’s are attracted to adult females but also bugger boys in their spare time.”

Also, I note that you keep using terms like ‘the majority’ and ‘most’.

There is no data to support your statements, the opposite is true.

Some male pedo’s marry a woman and molest any child they have, and don’t have regular sex with the wife.


28 posted on 12/24/2008 12:38:07 PM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: zarodinu

And a Merry Christmas to you!


29 posted on 12/24/2008 12:48:25 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: stuartcr
I agree, all homosexuals should be sterilised.

Hunh. And here I thought the open advocacy of violence wasn't allowed on this forum.

30 posted on 12/24/2008 1:40:32 PM PST by BrokenSmile (Fiat justitia, ruat caelum)
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To: zarodinu
All research done indicates that pedo’s are almost always heterosexual.
Then they would abuse kids of the opposite sex.

I am sure you will not even suggest that Vinson Filyaw (who kidnapped and raped a fourteen-year-old girl) was gay.
32 posted on 12/24/2008 6:13:16 PM PST by dbz77
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To: Morgana

Your post is even more stupid than the other idiot. You are basing it on a freaking TV show.

No wonder we lost the country.


33 posted on 12/24/2008 9:14:45 PM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: TheDon

This whole subject gives me the creeps!


34 posted on 12/25/2008 5:35:16 PM PST by Stourme
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To: Morgana

The discussion was concerning homosexual child molesters not male vs female.

A male who has sex with other males is a homosexual.

A male who has sex with underage boys is a homosexual pedophile sex addict.

The poster tried to say that is not the case. But many experts in the field disagree with his position, in fact I am aware of none that do.

Men who marry a woman then molest the kids no matter what gender are not hetrosexual pedophiles, they are bi-sexual pedophile sex addicts.


36 posted on 12/26/2008 5:23:00 AM PST by stockpirate (My Beeber is on full stun as the site appears to be over run with trolls.)
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To: BrokenSmile

Non-violent sterilisation.


37 posted on 12/27/2008 8:39:09 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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