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Posted on 12/24/2008 4:59:05 PM PST by meandog
President Bush on Wednesday retracted one of the 19 presidential pardons he granted just before the Christmas holiday.
The White House announced that Isaac Toussie, a Brooklyn developer convicted of fraud and making false statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, should not be granted clemency.
White House press secretary Dana Perino said the new decision was "based on information that has subsequently come to light," including on the extent and nature of Toussie's prior criminal offenses. She also said that neither the White House counsel's office nor the president had been aware of a political contribution by Toussie's father that "might create an appearance of impropriety."
"Given that, this was the prudent thing to do," she said.
The new information came out in news reports, Perino said. The counsel's office generally doesn't include vetting of political contributions in its reviews on such matters, as that would be "highly inappropriate on many levels," she said. The White House decision on Toussie had come without a recommendation from the pardon attorney, Ronald L. Rodgers, as Toussie's request for a pardon came less than five years after completion of his sentence, so that eliminated another step in the review process.
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Meanwhile Ramos and Campeon rot. What is wrong with the President?
Good on ya, W.
Now, howzabout those two Border Agents?
I wasn’t aware a pardon could be reversed.
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If Senor Bush does not give pardons to Ramos, Campeon and Scooter Libby, then he is lower than pond scum.
Can this administration get nothing right? Who was supposed to vet the recipients before the pardon was granted?
Thanks, I stand corrected, LOL!
Stroke of the pen and all that. And besides, it's Christmas, a time of miracles.
Evidently, there is a limited supply of pardons and one had to be saved for Bernie Madoff!
GWB is neither compassionate nor conservative, despite his old rhetoric. It's like the Holy Roman Emopire: "not holy, not Roman, and not an empire."
Senor Bush wants to teach the border patrol agents on the field a lesson: leave all stones unturned.
Bumbling fools with R’s beside their name.
Makes me ashamed to have an R beside my name.
The schlub pardons scum and leaves railroaded border police heros in jail to rot. I bet Bush doesn’t even know about Ramos and Campeon (sp?).
G.W.B. is the greatest fraud ever perpetuated upon conservative America.
Pardon Ramos and Compean, Mr.President.
How can he have Christmas with his family and not think of the young children these border agents have, who are missing their daddys tonight?
There is a very bad reason W won’t pardon them. Too close to Sutton? Likes drug runners? Like the Mexicans too much? Whatever the reason it isn’t a good one.
Add his unwillingness to pardon them, to the long list of grievances the prez has piled up in 8 years of not being a conservative (as advertised).
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If one wants to know who GWB truly is this situation is the perfect example. He won’t pardon Ramos and Campeon because this jerk DA is his little pal or he owes him something.
EVIL.
Well, maybe that leaves a space to pardon Ramos and Campean. Now that President Bush retracted one pardon, perhaps he should keep the count by issuing a pardon to civil servants with families being punished for doing their jobs.
Is this refusal by Bush to pardon genuine deserving patriots some kind of a Yale thing I wonder? The horrendous sentences are out of line with similar offenses in my opinion.
agree on that and I am still waiting for a few of our fellow FReepers to sing in here with how damn stupid we are for banging on bush for not giving these two agents a pardon. for the life of me I can’t understand how they can support compean and ramos remaining in prison.
Guess you’re not one of the Bush worshippers hereabouts.
How, bruthah.
sounds like he already got his "pardon" when he was sentenced.
He served his time..what's the point??
Can the POTUS retract such a thing? I never heard of that, before.
Only $25,000? Bill Clinton got a $450,000 contribution for his Presidential library.
Denise Rich? Marc Rich? That never seemed to bother Slick.
so i guess the moral of the story is.. if you want a pardon don’t contribute and don’t have your family contribute any money to the people in power...
thats for all u seeking pardons...
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Issac is the son of prominent real estate developer Robert Toussie.
I wonder how much in campaign contributions the elder Toussie has given to the Bush family over the years. I suggest the conservative media get on this before the liberal media does.
It can get things right and has, but way too often it hasn't.
I don't think he can. It seems blatantly unconstitutional to me. The only thing I can think of is that it hadn't yet become official somehow. And also that the guy is still hoping for something, so he doesn't want to challenge it in court. He's the one with standing to do so, so if he doesn't challenge the revocation, it won't matter if the president technically can't do it.
Prolly the border agents are just greeting the illegal border crossers with a smile and a wave and passing out a “Welcome to America” brochure (in Spanish of course) with a list of tips, where to go for various free services, and a reminder to be sure and register to vote — citizenship is not a requirement.
Oops, I really need to start reading the freaking articles:
A story in the New York Daily News said Toussie's father, Robert, donated $28,500 to the national Republican Party in April. It was his first political donation and came just months before Toussie's pardon petition, the newspaper said
When is a Presidential pardon final? Only when he leaves office?
On a brighter note, can we still rescind Obama’s election?
Since the President signed the pardon, I would think that makes it official.
I don’t think he can legally change his mind after that.
If so, how long does he have? Days? Weeks? Years?
It’s a done deal, isn’t it?
“It seems blatantly unconstitutional to me.”
Yeah, sort of like putting the bullet back in the gun.
Well now that was interesting. I learned something - thanks.
Drop the R. I did after Super Tuesday. I knew for sure they no longer represent me and I don’t have to defend them anymore.
Ya gawta have a D to get away with it!
/mark
That happened to my family back in the '60s. The dude got caught & FHA went back and looked at everyone's papers. The choice for us was move out & lose all equity (it was a sweat equity deal common at the time), or accept a new loan with a much higher payment. Ultimately we had to sell out & move down - the folks toughed it out for a couple of years but the $125 mortgage payment was just too much.
The crooked developer making false statements on behalf of buyers remains a part of the trouble with finance it seems. Our developer got $10,000 and ten years at club fed. It was his first and only development venture involving perhaps 25 homes. The dude in this story got a relative wrist slap considering the lesser jail time and value of money. And look at the fine - It seems to me at only ten grand the bulk of his illicit profit remains in his pocket. The only reason I can see he wants a pardon is so he can qualify for the licensing to continue what he had been doing before. I say no way.
I did vote for Sarah Palin and that dude she ran with last month, but would have much rather seen a different dude or dudette at the top of the ticket .
I just couldn’t pull the lever for mccain. I dislike him that much. Been saying for over a year before the nomination that if the Republicans are stupid enough to pick him, they aren’t getting my vote.
Well they did and I realized that I’m not a member of the club no more. It made it easier since Tennessee was definitely going to vote Republican and not for Obama, who I difinely didn’t support. In fact, as I told everyone who asked during the election. I had no dog in the hunt..
The not so dark side is we don't quite have Bride of Clinton in the Oval Office (doing God knows what in the sink). As much as I don't like The 0ne and his wholly unearned and illegitimate rise to power, I think we dodged a bomb.
But in this cycle I think a lot of Republicans have come to learn a lot about the turn this party has made in the last dozen or so years, and they don't like it.
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