Posted on 12/25/2008 4:34:30 PM PST by obamaisandrogynous
Good point about how the Communists sought to appropriate Lincoln’s image.
Yes, the Marxist enemies of the West purposely use the most popular facades they can think of to fool people who don’t know how to think for themselves into thinking that “progressives” are all about mom and apple pie. You’d think the public would get wise to being so obviously manipulated.
” Youd think the public would get wise to being so obviously manipulated.’
Sorry, it’s too late. The sheeple are in the pen.
Agreed about the public, but in order to learn not to be duped they need to know something of history, politics, etc.
Most don’t bother to educate themselves.
It’s hard for me to imagine a less apt comparison between two people than one between Barack Obama and Abraham Lincoln.
The American public has been so dumbed down in the past 3 or 4 decades, it's a wonder there are any true conservatives left in this country. With the manner of indoctrination the public schools and their unions have been teaching more about gay rights, how to slip a rubber onto a condom, how to rebel against authority, and other socialist/marxist propaganda, our kids don't have a chance to become individualists. The only proof I need is what happened on November 4th with the election of a man who almost outright yells at people saying is a socialist. What scares me most of Obama is not Obama, but his handlers. His handlers will tell him what to do and he will do it because he owes it to them for the backing he received from them. My wish is that another Reagan will arise from the ashes of the election of 2008. Palin is our only hope.
“Barry hasnt freed an entire people left in bondage, or managed a cross-continental war, successfully.”
Lincoln didn’t do that either. He emancipated only the slaves held in states under rebellion. They weren’t freed in the north. It was an act to control an asset of war...slavery, by the commander in chief.
The second point, that he successfully managed the war is arguable as well. ‘Emancipating’ the South’s labor source was the best tactical move he made. And that is what it was. It didn’t end slavery.
American Communists named the organization in which they served during the Spanish Civil War the Lincoln Brigade. Interesting...
Oh, did the North have slaves?
That’s like comparing the White Stripes to Led Zepplin.
Yes, they certainly did.
How many Blacks were slaves in the North after the civil War? Also how many plantations in the South still have slaves still today?
No where mentioned by the MSM is that Lincoln was the first Republican President and advocated minimal interference by government in the economy.
When he was sworn in, Lincoln had accomplished almost nothing for America except some stirring rhetoric. His political office experience was remarkably similar to Obama's, several terms in the IL legislature and two years in the House. Obama: several terms in the IL legislature and four years in the Senate.
IMO Lincoln's rhetoric had a great more deal more substance to it than Obama's, but as far as actual accomplishments in politics, and particularly in executive experience, the two men are remarkably similar.
Not exactly accurate. He pushed for compensated emancipation from early in his presidency and supported the various amendments that eventually freed all the slaves. The president has no role in amendments, but he encouraged Congress to pass them and send them to the states.
IOW, Lincoln did everything he constitutionally could to free all the slaves. He had no right or mechanism to directly emancipate northern slaves.
BTW, by the end of the war slaves remained in bondage only in KY and a few hundred in DE. All others had already been freed by state action.
c’mon. Both were born in places starting with KEN
Let B.O. and the Dims have Lincoln. They’ve been embracing him for years.....even the celluloid clowns on The West Wing would get weepy-eyed over the mere mention of “honest Abe”.
If the Republicans want to be a conservative party again, and that seems VERY much in doubt, they need to re-embrace the ideals of Jefferson, Washington, and Madison.....and the presidential governing precepts of Tyler, Cleveland, Pierce, and Hayes ( limited government, fiscal responsibility, and no needless bloodshed ).
Let the liberals have Lincoln. He’s always been one of them.
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