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Lessons From '92 Offer Hope to GOP [within two years it had roared back.....]
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 12/25/2008 5:05:50 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Lessons From '92 Offer Hope to GOP

By GERALD F. SEIB

A young and popular Democratic president is preparing to take over the White House, while a lame-duck Republican named Bush heads for the exits. Slumping Republicans are in despair; they've seen Democrats win majorities of almost 80 seats in the House and 15 in the Senate.

A snapshot of today's political landscape? Yes. But it's also a precise description of the predicament Republicans faced at the end of 1992, when Bill Clinton, not Barack Obama, was preparing to take over the presidency.

As low as the GOP was after that 1992 election, within two years it had roared back to take control of the House for the first time in half a century. The point is simple: Tattered as Republicans look today, it's easy to forget that they've been here before, and not so long ago, and recovered fairly quickly.

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One who remembers it well is Haley Barbour, the current governor of Mississippi, who had either the great fortune or misfortune (it wasn't clear at the time which it was) of taking over as Republican National Committee chairman at the dawn of the Clinton presidency.

Having seen this play before, Gov. Barbour knows it needn't have an unhappy ending for his party. The script he followed at the time, in fact, may be illuminating for his party today.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 1992; bho2008; gop; obama; obamatransitionfile
good read....
1 posted on 12/25/2008 5:05:50 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
But it's also a precise description of the predicament Republicans faced at the end of 1992,

No, no it's not, not even close!! The republicans had been out of power for forty years and the democrats were covered with slime. The republicans had better get to fixing some of the crap they broke, before they can claim they can run the country. The claims of the biggest porker in American history will not get you elected to spit.

2 posted on 12/25/2008 5:17:36 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think we’re starting from a weaker point now than in 1992. W has done a lot to decimate the party and McNasty accelerated that decimation. We do have Palin on the horizon for ‘12, which is a good thing, and there are some other good governors around, but the Republican “brand”, as they say, as been run into the ground by W (and I’m not talking about Iraq which was the one good thing he did, but all that socialist spending) and there’s nobody in congress that I can see who is going to rise up like Newt and proclaim a Contract that the average American can get behind.

Not to mention that the “average American” is a lot more Hispanic than in 1992.

Things have changed. This is not 1992 all over again. Things are bleaker for conservatives and true Republicans now.


3 posted on 12/25/2008 5:21:16 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Sub-Driver

But now the Bushes have had twenty years to purge Reaganism out of the GOP. I don’t see such a quick recovery this time.


4 posted on 12/25/2008 5:28:05 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Latinos can be GOP we just have to sell them the brand.


5 posted on 12/25/2008 5:32:09 PM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: Sub-Driver

Good history. Hopefully, the GOP will learn something from it. Number one, it counts whose is in charge at the RNC. We badly need a Haley Barbour or Tom DeLay or Michael Steele at the helm, with a Gingrich or Gramm providing the ideas. And would it hurt to remember (at least til the Dems bring back the Fairness Doctrine) that Conservatives still dominate talk radio?


6 posted on 12/25/2008 5:34:17 PM PST by tanuki (Summum ius summa injuria. (The more law, the less justice))
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To: Sub-Driver

I wish history would repeat in 1994 fashion. But dare I hope for that.


7 posted on 12/25/2008 5:42:55 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Moonman62
And on the other hand, the majority of the voting population wants some form of socialized medicine.

The first rule, when one blames politicians for going "soft," is to ask "are we getting soft?"

8 posted on 12/25/2008 5:45:30 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: org.whodat

You are exactly right


9 posted on 12/25/2008 5:52:43 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: omega4179
Latinos can be GOP we just have to sell them the brand.

I cannot believe that hard-working, prudent, Latinos, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, ... like paying confiscatory taxes any better than Caucasians. I would hope that conservative ideals and prudent behavior transcend race and culture.

Immigrants from many countries and cultures have embraced these ideas over time. Let's make the case for real conservatism that sets the expectation for each individual to do their best to carry their share of the load, knowing that they have neighbors who help during times that overwhelm our best efforts.

10 posted on 12/25/2008 5:56:47 PM PST by RochesterFan
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To: omega4179

So could Blacks (again) if we have the balls to step up at every point and ask them of the False Messiah, “Where’s that CHANGE he promised you ?”


11 posted on 12/25/2008 5:58:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Sub-Driver
One HUGH difference between now and then.....There was LEADERSHIP then...now all we have is a bunch of chicken $hits running the party...will it change? Who knows...it will only happen if the RINOs are forced to the back of the bus....
12 posted on 12/25/2008 5:59:14 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Sub-Driver

old models no longer apply.


13 posted on 12/25/2008 6:00:58 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
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To: omega4179
Latinos can be GOP we just have to sell them the brand.

Pretty tall order, they voted 67% commie this time around.

14 posted on 12/25/2008 6:02:58 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Sub-Driver

In ‘92 we had lot of strong thinkers and leaders in Congress, e.g. Armey, Delay, Gingrich, Kasich, Paxon, Santorum; solid and smart veterans like Clinger, Hyde, and Solomon. Our bench is a lot thinner these days. Lot of work to do.


15 posted on 12/25/2008 6:07:10 PM PST by Mogwai (Palin/Santorum 2012!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Good read and good ideas. But we have been adversely effected by immigration. we have lost our moderate and urban Conservatives. We are increasingly a party of Dixie and even losing there.we will need some help from Mr.Obama and I am not sure we are going to get it. We cant let history repeat itself. We are going to have to realize that our backs are to the wall and it is now or never.


16 posted on 12/25/2008 6:13:30 PM PST by bilhosty
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To: Sub-Driver

Not nearly as similar as they would like to believe.

The list of reasons why the GOP is in much worse shape is too long to mention here.

But, at the top of the list is this: the GOP itself. Conservative ideas and leadership in the party are about as rare as unicorns. And the prospects of finding any in the near term are about as likely.

Number two on the list, the Dems have learned from the last 16 years. The criminal behavior and election fraud orchestrated by them has grown tremendously; whereas the Republicans have developed not one iota more of backbone in fighting it.

I believe that the use of the government power and laws to suppress Republicans and conservatism in the next four years is going to be very frightening. These people are a lot more dangerous than the Clintons ever were.


17 posted on 12/25/2008 6:18:26 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Sub-Driver

Who cares
Screw the friggin republicans

What’s the difference between a republican and a democrat?

Trick question...there isn’t one. Lol


18 posted on 12/25/2008 6:32:39 PM PST by 240B
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To: Sub-Driver

Republicans must settle on three or four core conservative issues, and hit the Obama cultists HARD HARD.... pointing out every single hypocricy and fraud, no matter how little.

This notion of getting along with these anti-Capitalist, no-drill, high tax, open gay education Obama cult loonies is insanity in the extreme.

If the Democrats complete their federal govt. plan to tighten their death grip on states rights ... then the next move can only be to push the US into the arms of the UN anti-American radicals...

Which will mean the end of America as we know it.

To Obama, everything America has accomplished in the past 230 years has been evil.... and he wants it destroyed.

The more I hear about Obama’s plans, the more depressed and angry I get.


19 posted on 12/25/2008 6:42:10 PM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Sub-Driver

We can dream, I guess, but if its Specter leading the way in 2010, what’s the point?


20 posted on 12/25/2008 6:53:25 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: TLI
When a person believes he is "entitled" to the wealth of others, he is not easily cured, the New York Times wrote that in an editorial about 1909.
21 posted on 12/25/2008 6:55:11 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: samtheman
McNasty accelerated that decimation.

Ain't that the truth? Probably our best hope is for Osama's constituencies to spend so much energy fighting each other for a dwindling tax pie that big government is neutered somewhat.

22 posted on 12/25/2008 6:56:08 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: RochesterFan

If you examine “democracies” worldwide, aren’t 80 percent of them on the “left” most of the time? The people worldwide want what Lenin promised them but failed to deliver.


23 posted on 12/25/2008 6:56:24 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: tanuki
with a Gingrich or Gramm providing the ideas

It was their ideas and sellouts that gave the tax payers those wonderful Credit default Swaps and hedge funds!!! You need to look up how much they received on those deals.

24 posted on 12/25/2008 7:08:25 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: samtheman

“In the 1992 national elections, the Coalition distributed 40 million voter guides. Forty-one percent of the congressional candidates who received a 100% rating from the Coalition’s voter guide won.”


25 posted on 12/25/2008 8:09:45 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take you pick.)
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To: samtheman

(That’s the Christian Coalition and Pat Robertson)

“In the 1992 national elections, the Coalition distributed 40 million voter guides. Forty-one percent of the congressional candidates who received a 100% rating from the Coalition’s voter guide won.”


26 posted on 12/25/2008 8:11:16 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take you pick.)
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To: Theodore R.

Do you have link to that. I can’t believe even in 1909 the tines could have written something sensible like that.


27 posted on 12/26/2008 3:28:39 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Vigilanteman

There will be some in-fighting. And a clever Republican Party could leverage that to help keep the country afloat.

But we do not have a clever Republican Party.

We have an Extremely Stupid Republican Party (with some notable exceptions).


28 posted on 12/26/2008 5:09:01 AM PST by samtheman
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To: omega4179

Yes, in order for the GOP to survive, we must bring more Latino voters to our side. Nothing matters more.


29 posted on 12/26/2008 1:12:44 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless President George W. Bush and the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver

[within two years it had roared back.....]

Conservatism. Wins every time it’s tried.


30 posted on 12/27/2008 9:41:28 AM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: omega4179

“Latinos can be GOP we just have to sell them the brand.”

And if the price is amnesty and no border security?


31 posted on 12/27/2008 9:42:54 AM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: Momma Republican

And if the price is amnesty and no border security?


32 posted on 12/27/2008 9:44:06 AM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: Grunthor

the sales pitch has to convince them that their interest is a secure border and economic growth for legal americans under a reaganesque economic model.


33 posted on 12/27/2008 9:44:09 AM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: omega4179

I don’t see that being successful. Also, In most cases that these people have a vote in their home countries, they vote overwhelmingly for socialists and communists. Why would that be any different just because they move to the U.S.?


34 posted on 12/27/2008 9:46:21 AM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: Momma Republican
in order for the GOP to survive, we must bring more Latino voters to our side

For every new GOP Hispanic voter, there are three new Democrats.

You cannot lose on every sale, and make it up on volume.

We already have one anti-white party, we don't need two.

35 posted on 12/27/2008 9:47:30 AM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: Grunthor

I am thinking about 2nd generation latinos not illegal aliens.


36 posted on 12/27/2008 10:03:45 AM PST by omega4179 (Ramos and Compean)
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To: Jim Noble

OK, then how do you handle demographic realities (shrinking “white” population, growing secularization of the white population, etc.) by just being the party of white professing Christians? How do you win elections?


37 posted on 12/27/2008 10:06:41 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Grunthor

Again: How, pray tell, do we win national elections if we are seen as the party of rural, white fundamentalist christians? We are losing SUBURBIA from Reagan’s sake!


38 posted on 12/27/2008 10:08:33 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Clemenza
OK, then how do you handle demographic realities (shrinking “white” population, growing secularization of the white population, etc.) by just being the party of white professing Christians? How do you win elections?

Combatting white self-hatred.

McCain got 55% of the white vote, and whites still represent a HUGE majority of all voters.

Increasing Presidential total white vote to a winning total is a small problem. Turning white haters into reliable GOP voters is a huge, likely insurmountable problem.

39 posted on 12/27/2008 10:20:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: Jim Noble
Yes, but how do you win over secular white suburbanites? White government employees and union members? Left side of the bell curve whites outside of rural hollers?

I get where you are coming from Jim, but those are the Demos that cost us the election. Even if we deported every illegal tomorrow, certain cultural and demograpic trends among the white population alone are causing problems for the GOP election wise.

40 posted on 12/27/2008 10:28:21 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Jim Noble
If the GOP can't win over Hispanic voters then we are done as a party. Just take a look at the demographics.

How is reaching out to Hispanic voters anti-white?
41 posted on 12/27/2008 2:13:13 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless President George W. Bush and the Republican Party)
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To: Grunthor

Then that is the price we will just have to pay.


42 posted on 12/27/2008 2:15:39 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless President George W. Bush and the Republican Party)
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To: Momma Republican
How is reaching out to Hispanic voters anti-white?

Because the defeat and occupation of white America is their most heartfelt desire.

Why do Hispanics vote with blacks, whom they hate? Because they hate whites more.

Why did Hispanics not vote for their BEST FRIEND EVER in US politics, John McCain?

Because he's white.

This is foolishness. More Hispanics = more Democrats = less freedom = less America.

It's really very simple.

43 posted on 12/27/2008 3:48:53 PM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: Clemenza

Figure out what you believe in and run on those principles. If you win the right to serve, GOVERN on those principles. Foreign concepts to the Republican Party, I know.


44 posted on 12/27/2008 5:56:02 PM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: Momma Republican

“Then that is the price we will just have to pay.”

So you are willing to lose your nation in your quest for power. Got it.


45 posted on 12/27/2008 5:56:45 PM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: Jim Noble
"Because the defeat and occupation of white America is their most heartfelt desire."

And your evidence for this is...?

"Why do Hispanics vote with blacks, whom they hate? Because they hate whites more."

Or, like blacks, they see the GOP as a party for whites only. Why would they think any differently considering comments like yours and those on the "Magic Negro" thread.

"Why did Hispanics not vote for their BEST FRIEND EVER in US politics, John McCain?

Because he's white."

Or because many within his own party have done everything within their power to alienate them. Guilt by association.

"This is foolishness. More Hispanics = more Democrats = less freedom = less America.

It's really very simple."

Yes, it is very simple. Either Republicans bring any new voters like Hispanics or we will never see any real power again in this country. Period.
46 posted on 12/27/2008 11:40:00 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless President George W. Bush and the Republican Party)
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To: Grunthor

Our nation was founded on ideas not race.


47 posted on 12/27/2008 11:41:06 PM PST by Momma Republican (God bless President George W. Bush and the Republican Party)
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To: Momma Republican

“Our nation was founded on ideas not race.”

Many ways to answer that, so I will.

1. One of those ideas was slavery, did that have anything to do with race?

2. “Illegal Alien” is NOT A RACE.


48 posted on 12/28/2008 9:17:12 AM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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