Posted on 12/27/2008 6:14:01 AM PST by IbJensen
The cause of gay rights has made enormous progress in the last couple of decades, but the more specific cause of gay marriage continues to be battered.
In the same election that voters helped bridge the United States' racial divide by electing the country's first African-American president, voters in California overrode a ruling of that state's Supreme Court and effectively rebanned gay marriage.
Reliably Democratic-voting California — home to those much-mocked "San Francisco values" that tolerate gay lifestyles — has now joined 29 other states, including Ohio, banning gay marriage.
Protests in reaction to the vote popped up across the country, including in Dayton. And recently some activists encouraged people to use a sick day, or to "call in gay," as a national demonstration of the broad economic impact of gays.
The backlash against California's Proposition 8 also could seed expansion of a mostly symbolic effort by cities, including in Ohio, to support their gay communities. Cleveland City Council, for example, last month took a stand in support of its gay community by creating a domestic partner registry.
Such registries date to the 1980s in northern California. The idea is to recognize committed relationships formally, and, in so doing, encourage employers and others to extend to gay couples benefits typically offered to married heterosexual couples. Nobody is required to recognize gay couples. But for businesses or organizations that want to be gay-friendly, the registry gives gays official documentation of their relationships.
Of course, the registry does not substitute for marriage. It is merely a public record of partnerships. But the record can allow, for instance, a hospital to verify a gay partner for visitation or organ donation authorization, provided the hospital wishes to do so.
Three Ohio cities have now taken this step: The others are Toledo and Cleveland Heights. Dayton leaders say the issue is "not on our radar right now," according to spokesman Tom Biedenharn.
Gay rights has been a political hot potato in the region's central city since 1999 when then-City Commissioner Mary Wiseman, who is gay and just this year was elected to the Montgomery County Common Pleas Court, proposed a sensible extension of the city's nondiscrimination ordinance to gays. That touched off a firestorm of protests from the religious community and then-Mayor Mike Turner, who rallied support to defeat the measure.
Last year — not quite a decade later — the city commission on a 3-1 vote adopted Ms. Wiseman's proposal, notwithstanding the continued community protests. (Commissioner Joey Williams didn't vote, and Commissioner Dean Lovelace was the "no" vote.)
For now, Mr. Biedenharn said, the commission thinks it has shown its support for the gay community.
"I think symbolically it sets where we are with this," he said. "We are open, amenable and respectful of everybody's rights."
Gay marriage votes notwithstanding, the ground is shifting in favor of gay rights. Young people especially don't get why there should be any fuss about sexual orientation. Businesses are increasingly sensitive to their gay employees because, for them, the issue is workers' skills, not lifestyles. Many Republican politicians see a need for their party to separate itself from anti-gay causes.
Ohio's gay marriage ban probably won't be undone anytime soon. But the fact that it's in the constitution doesn't mean it's in concrete.
They'll never editorialize about how the vast majority of serial killers were homosexuals and that getting their 'gay' backsides into elementary schools for demonstration programs is inherently evil.
The Democrat Party and their pals in the media have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with satan and hell.
I wish we could get 38 states to make it permanent in our Constitution.
“But the fact that it’s in the constitution doesn’t mean it’s in concrete.”
This statement makes them dangerous.
Oh, they’re dangerous alright. To these rats the Constitution is like Play-Doh.
That's because they've been brainwashed into believing such nonsense.
What, exactly do they mean by that?
Are these some special rights that ONLY GAYS have?
Just asking.
I thought the Constitution covered us all....equally.
If I wanted to marry another guy, I couldn't either and I'm not gay.
It applies equally to everybody.
In order to get a ban on same-sex marriage enshrined in the US Constitution, we’d have to let the libs enshrine FOCA in the Constitution also. A lot of folks on our side would rather die than let that happen. So we are at a logjam.
“They have made enormous PROGRESS”.
That statement only works if you can accept teaching their perverted and destructive Lifestyle in our “Public Schools”.
How many have died from Aids, since it was discovered.
They might be able to change the laws, and maybe even the constitution, but they’ll have a lot harder time changing the Bible! From Genesis right through the New Testament it’s very clear that marriage is between one man and one woman.
Good point
These communist-fascists will declare the Holy Bible a subversive document and their storm troopers will burn them.
Catcher In The Rye, Fear of Flying, etc. etc. will be safe, however.
Wait until a test case pops up wherein a man wants to marry his female horse.
Men marrying male horses will be covered, of course, by the homosexual marriage law that will be 'edicted' nationwide. (This will be after all 50 states are dissolved and replaced by 5 regions each ruled by a gauleiter.)
There will be a lot of committee work involved in cobbling (they call it 'crafting') together a bill to allow siblings to wed and fathers to wed daughters, sons, pigs, cows, et al.
You need only observe “journalism” students in college to see just how degraded most of them are. Drunks and druggies. Is there any bigger bunch of lushes? Is there an easier degree program? It explains totally their job performances as big govt, pervert loving, commie stooges.
Any provision that's put in by amendment can be altered or removed by amendment. Which is perfectly legitimate.
Unfortunately, that's probably not what he means.
I live in Dayton and HATE the Dayton Daily News. I would never get a print subscription.
Under the new 'Leader' if a homosexual strolling down the boulevard sees a young man he fancies he will legally be able to claim the young man if another homosexual, or a homosexual higher up in rank in the Democrat Party, doesn't claim the youth.
Homosexuals will have the right to claim a heterosexual's residence and pay whatever the Party deems a fair price.
Under a bi-sexual reign homosexuals will be at the top of the 'pecking order.'
Anyone making any disparaging remarks about homosexual, transgendered, bi-sexual persons will be sentenced by a tribunal to immediate death.
I did once upon a time, but refused to subscribe to the Dayton Daily Worker.
After moving south I refused to subscribe to the local Gannett rag.
I prefer to wait by the sidelines and watch the lousy, socialist media die.
There are a very few newspapers and magazines that espouse true conservative opinions.
The Philadelphia Bulletin, The Investors Business Daily and the American Rifleman!
Give me a few weeks and I'll come up with some others.
Liberal rags, ever in need of editing.
Just wait until people who choose to have sex with children start demanding their rights.
Very well stated!
I quote Thomas Jefferson (on September 6,1819) “The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please.”
“Journalism...Is there an easier degree program?”
Yep, an “EDUCATION” degree!
That's already started. As in 1973, when the American Psychiatric Association delisted homosexuality as a mental illness, and started the movement to normalize the perversion; 2 years ago the APA declared that “children are not necessarily harmed by having sexual relations with adults.”
Make no mistake, if homosexuality gains full legitimacy, then pedophilia and polygamy will be normalized in short order!
” “Young people especially don’t get why there should be any fuss about sexual orientation.”
That’s because they’ve been brainwashed into believing such nonsense. “
Yes, and we need to take back our schools. There is a clearing house in California for letter-writing and other action to put the pressure on and show these slick leftist revolutionaries that we will not stand for it:
http://www.savecalifornia.com/
There are others in this vein as well.
The other best thing to do is to find out who is running for school board or run yourself.
I think you could also use the argument about marrying two women if you want to show that the discrimination isn’t about gays and because you yourself are not gay.
How DARE they!
He has promised to admit all types of degenerates into his administration.
He's already filled his cabinet with these poor disadvantaged perverts.
“That’s already started. As in 1973, when the American Psychiatric Association delisted homosexuality as a mental illness, and started the movement to normalize the perversion; 2 years ago the APA declared that “children are not necessarily harmed by having sexual relations with adults.”
Make no mistake, if homosexuality gains full legitimacy, then pedophilia and polygamy will be normalized in short order!”
Sex with children is indeed in the wings for “normalizing”.
Then maybe we can amend the Constitution to define murder as the malicious taking of a human life, theft as the unauthorized removal of property belonging to someone else, and breathing as the voluntary respiration of atmospheric gases. You know, those complex legal conundra that defy common sense.
These guys use every opportunity they can to ADVERTISE THEIR OWN AVAILABILITY.
We'll see more of this as the print newsmedia dies off. Straight guys with family responsibilities just can't afford to plan their financial futures on the sort of income they can expect from newspapers, so they get real jobs!
I don't see the connection.
I wish we could get 38 states to form our own constitution and leave the rest to be.
As far as I’m concerned, the Democrat parasite nests (”cities”) can do whatever they want as long as their cancer doesn’t spread outside to places mostly inhabited by normal, decent, human taxpayers and their families. Go for it, Dayton. Then grab your ankles and watch as a tide of fake “partnerships” are used to game the system for taxpayer-funded healthcare and other perks that have previously, and rightfully, been offered only to real families.
That would be the price the libs would want for throwing their gay friends under the bus.
If I recall correctly, something like that was tried once. Didn't work out too well, they say.
In the same election that voters helped bridge the United States' racial divide by electing the country's first African-American president, voters in California overrode a ruling of that state's Supreme Court and effectively rebanned gay marriage. Reliably Democratic-voting California — home to those much-mocked "San Francisco values" that tolerate gay lifestyles — has now joined 29 other states, including Ohio, banning gay marriage.Is this not sweet?
And recently some activists encouraged people to use a sick day, or to "call in gay," as a national demonstration of the broad economic impact of gays.And that day came and went without a peep. Is there anyone who found it hard to find an interior decorator or a carpet cleaner that day?
Young people especially don't get why there should be any fuss about sexual orientationMaybe young people in West L.A., but not east L.A.
These communist-fascists will declare the Holy Bible a subversive document and their storm troopers will burn them.They can burn as many as they want; we will print more.
It was the Hispanic vote in Southern California, to say nothing of the Central Valley, that put Prop 8 over the top in Democrat California. Prop 8 even narrowly won in Los Angeles counties, despite losing all of the white neighborhoods in LA County (which are home to many homosexuals).Latino-majority, Democratic-leaning Imperial County voted for Proposition 8 by percent. I guess it has something to do with so many of the people there being Roman Catholics.
As long as the heterosexual divorce rate is high and parenthood is considered an enlightened choice, not a natural/existential purpose of marriage, the cause for gay “marriage” will gain credence.
Belated barf alert
That might not be a universal truth. I knew two journalism students from University of Kansas. Both were staunch conservatives, fun-loving and hard-working. One of them did like to drink beer, though, and his personal life was a bit messy. They were both great people, though. Must be something in the water in Kansas.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Yeah becuase the leader of one side couldn’t leave well enough along, and “bent the Constitution” (not that the other side didn’t have it’s faults and faulures)!
When there's no one around one boy shoves a well-lubricated member up another's poo-poo until jollies are obtained. For even greater fun they shove their face up there where the pee-pee had been and lick the 'orifice of affection' quite clean. That causes much moaning and grinning.
The girls have their 'bag of tricks' literally. They do a myriad of things in order to help each other achieve their orgasms. They use appliances, but also their mouths quite extensively.
Now aren't you ashamed? That's all there is to it and many of these brave souls are willing to die for the way they achieve sexual pleasure and society be damned.
They want nothing more than to share their love, even if it kills the non-willing participant.
They want to marry, adopt some normal kids, and settle down to raise a nice little family with two daddies or two mommies.
Those little adopted kids will wonder what the source of all that pleasure is one hears going through the bedroom doors. Someone in there is having a big time. Then they take a peek and see the mommy figure under the daddy figure going up and down just like riding a horse. Then the mommy figure lets the daddy figure shove his face up there where the sun doesn't shine. That brings more screams of delight.
Of course this goes on and on ad nauseum. You have to wonder how long it will be before these two soulless lovers include a third, or maybe a fourth child into the act; because, surely one who defies God and man's law regarding this type of activity doesn't give a damn during one of these sexual playtimes about who gets included.
Back to basics. Homosexual proactices are wrong, wrong wrong. Therefore, the homosexual who practices these repulsive acts in order to achieve their filthy orgasms must be inherently evil. To expose mere children to these acts of evil is a mortal sin punishable by eternal fire in hell. They're not interested in that now, they're only interested in nailing down another pervert for life as a 'spouse' and getting their filthy hands on our children.
There is excessive divorce amongst excessive heterosexuals as society is in a state of instant gratification. When one feels the mate isn't compatible any longer, the spark is gone, there are no more mutual climaxes, they dump each other.
No more 'Little House on the Prarie' or no more 'I remember Mama.' Those mushy old family programs were as uniformly hated by homosexuals as was possible. They presented life as idyllic with a real mother and father figure taking matters into their own hands, not rushing off to be analyzed by a psychologist whose goal is one thing: get them apart. Break up this family. The kids will be ruined and go off into obscurity, but that can't be helped because these two big kids must be mollified.
They'll learn their lesson several years down the road when one day they'll realize what brought them together in the first place when nothing can be done about what they have causesd to be transpired.
The mates drift off hardened by the world to a meaningless life, while the kids may drift off to a life of drugs and one night stands.
Who's to blame? Why the two supposedly adults of course. They were more interested in things material than they were the lives they brought into this world, then turned their backs on their happiness because deep down they're selfish!
It's not to late to begin conducting lives responsibly while remembering you're an adult and other lives depend on what you do to your family.
That’s good. They would be exceptions in my experience. Journalism students think of themselves as social activists and this attitude is encouraged. This goes a long way to explaining the decent of modern reporting into commieprop.
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