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Roger Kimball: The End of Art (Profound Essay)
First Things ^ | July 2008 | Roger Kimball

Posted on 12/27/2008 12:54:23 PM PST by mojito

Nearly everyone cares—or says he cares—about art. After all, art ennobles the spirit, ­elevates the mind, and educates the emotions. Or does it? In fact, tremendous irony attends our culture’s continuing investment—emotional, financial, and social—in art. We behave as if art were something special, something important, something spiritually refreshing; but, when we canvas the roster of distinguished artists today, what we generally find is far from spiritual, and certainly far from refreshing.

It is a curious situation. Traditionally, the goal of fine art was to make beautiful objects. The idea of beauty came with a lot of Platonic and Christian metaphysical baggage, some of it indifferent or even hostile to art. But art without beauty was, if not exactly a contradiction in terms, at least a description of failed art.

Nevertheless, if large precincts of the art world have jettisoned the traditional link between art and beauty, they have done nothing to disown the social prerogatives of art. Indeed, we suffer today from a peculiar form of moral anesthesia—as if being art automatically rendered all moral considerations ­gratuitous. The list of atrocities is long, familiar, and laughable. In the end, though, the effect has been ­anything but amusing; it has been a cultural disaster.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: art; avantgarde; beauty; fineart; nihilism; thomaskinkaide
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To: mojito

Not me, I don’t care about art at all. I don’t buy art and I don’t sell art. The artists can all starve, I don’t give a fig.

OTH, I do spend money on superbly crafted items of great beauty. I care about fine craftmenship quite a bit.


21 posted on 12/27/2008 1:27:57 PM PST by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I’d prefer not to see those, moron.

I thought your name sounded familiar. You're the guy who thought the story about 'Santa' shooting up a Christmas party was funny. Talk about morons. I was just showing a couple of examples of how the left is trying to destroy art in America. You, on the other hand, made a sick remark about a mass murder.

To: mylife
There are no words

How about, "Duck!"?
2 posted on Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:13:43 AM by the invisib1e hand (appeasement is collaboration.)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2154166/posts?page=2#2

22 posted on 12/27/2008 1:28:05 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: mojito

“...Deconstruction throws all objective meaning into question, so no one has to have the disappointing experience of being wrong or denied tenure, no matter how stupid one’s ideas. The burden of personal responsibility is mitigated, because one’s being is determined by accidental factors such as race, class and gender, not one’s owns values, decisions and actions. Skillful knowledge acquired by intense effort (or just being born smarter) is replaced by an obnoxious, hypertrophied adolescent scepticism that knows only how to question but not to learn.

It is grounded in a sort of bovine materialism that is not the realm of answers, but the graveyard of meaningful questions.

The primitive is idealized, because it is within everyone’s reach—I remember Rudy Giuliani’s comment about an artist’s rendering of the Virgin Mary with elephant dung: “If I can do it, it isn’t art.”

Of course, Giuliani was pilloried by the sophisticated N.Y art crowd, and with good reason. It is painful to have standards, because not everyone can attain them. ...” ~ Gagdad Bob (Robert Godwin, PhD)

Never Make a God of Your Irreligion
http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/2005/10/never-make-god-of-your-irreligion.html


23 posted on 12/27/2008 1:28:18 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Every free act transcends matter, which is why any form of materialism is anti-liberty" - Gagdad)
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To: Arkinsaw
I did. But I just don't see the beauty in it.

Which is willful denial, which is the flaw in your original premise.

24 posted on 12/27/2008 1:29:21 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: ETL

I was mistaken. You’re a petty moron with far too much time and toys.


25 posted on 12/27/2008 1:30:10 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Which is willful denial, which is the flaw in your original premise.

Our whole conversation reminds me of two dogs playing poker on black velvet.
26 posted on 12/27/2008 1:32:43 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: mojito

Bookmark


27 posted on 12/27/2008 1:33:17 PM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Arkinsaw

Aha. So that’s your idea of art.


28 posted on 12/27/2008 1:34:27 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Aha. So that’s your idea of art.

That's all they have at the art section in my local Presidential Library. So it must be good.
29 posted on 12/27/2008 1:36:29 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: mojito

what about all that beauty on the inside stuff?

30 posted on 12/27/2008 1:38:39 PM PST by woofie
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To: the invisib1e hand

Well, if you’re going to call people ‘morons’ on a public forum, people ought to know what kind of a creep you are. Joking about a mass murder, especially one involving women and children, is beyond sick.


31 posted on 12/27/2008 1:39:31 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: mojito

Don’t have time to read the article now. What happened to art, did morons committed mass murder on it and laughed?


32 posted on 12/27/2008 1:43:34 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Many come here to merely strike poses, posture and feel superior to others.)
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To: Arkinsaw
As Jacques Maritain put it, art is capable of establishing “a world apart, closed, limited, absolute,” an autonomous world that, at least for a moment, relieves us of the “ennui of living and willing.”

I gather that's the effect of said Presidential Library.

33 posted on 12/27/2008 1:45:09 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: mojito
Once in a while real miracles happen. Mark Bangerter overcame a serious hate crime where he was left for dead along side the road.

He has now found his vision and will open on January 17 with a fabulous new show.

His Story

34 posted on 12/27/2008 1:46:19 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where we got two feet of "Global Warming" goresnow)
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To: mojito

Hilton Kramer and Roger Kimball have both been invaluable critics of the decay of art in the postmodern world.

This is a thoughtful essay. I think a bit more could have been made of the Platonic/Aristotelian trio of trancendentals: truth, beauty, goodness. Perhaps Kimball just assumes that everyone knows about that, but I’m afraid most people no longer do.

That, for a Christian, is where art ties into religion, because religion is all about what is real, true, good, beautiful. When you trade in the real for the material is where you run into trouble. Or, what I think he’s referring to when he says that the problems began back in the middle ages, when you trade in Aristotelian universalism for Ockham’s nominalism, that’s also where you run into trouble.

I had several opportunities to meet with Kramer and Kimball, and in their early years after founding their new magazine they thought very highly of high modernist art but hated pop art and postmodernist art. Perhaps Kimball is reconsidering that, too, in this essay, although he doesn’t quite say so.


35 posted on 12/27/2008 1:47:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Arkinsaw

“I haven’t really made a decision about what I think of Pollock, but it made me at least take a look and see if there is any there there.”

I don’t know if he mixed his drinking with his artwork.

I find some of his canvases pleasing to the eye. Interesting colors. Interesting textures. Interesting shapes.


36 posted on 12/27/2008 1:48:25 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: mojito
Once in a while real miracles happen. Mark Bangerter overcame a serious hate crime where he was left for dead along side the road.

He has now found his vision and will open on January 17 with a fabulous new show.

His Story

37 posted on 12/27/2008 1:49:07 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where we got two feet of "Global Warming" goresnow)
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To: the invisib1e hand




Ennui does come to mind, but perhaps not in that context.
38 posted on 12/27/2008 1:50:45 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Revolting cat!
What happened to art, did morons committed mass murder on it and laughed?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2154166/posts?page=67#67

39 posted on 12/27/2008 1:52:29 PM PST by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Arkinsaw

now we’re talking.


40 posted on 12/27/2008 1:53:20 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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