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Ex-Aides Say Bush Never Recovered from Katrina
Ex-Aides quoted by Vanity Fair via Associated Press via Yahoo News ^ | 11/29/08

Posted on 12/29/2008 8:54:24 PM PST by marshmallow

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Bush has made some major goofs but Katrina is way down the list. In fact, it's not even on my list.

I'm no big fan of George but these ex-aides aren't worth a damn.

1 posted on 12/29/2008 8:54:24 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I’m with you....hardly his worst moment.


2 posted on 12/29/2008 8:55:32 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: marshmallow

Bush's fault.

3 posted on 12/29/2008 8:55:56 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

I’m thinking if it was a get out the vote effort to elect more dems, those buses would have been used.


4 posted on 12/29/2008 8:56:34 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: marshmallow

Katrina as “Bush’s Failure” is a load of hogwash.


6 posted on 12/29/2008 8:57:49 PM PST by McBuff
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To: marshmallow

No one has recovered from Katrina


7 posted on 12/29/2008 8:58:39 PM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: marshmallow
Mathew Dowd

8 posted on 12/29/2008 8:58:46 PM PST by AndrewB
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To: marshmallow

Comments to me by people who work around him on a daily basis: “dumb as a box of rocks..he does what the people around him tell him to do”


9 posted on 12/29/2008 8:58:49 PM PST by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: marshmallow

Actually it was getting bad advice from moles like these that was Bush’s undoing.


10 posted on 12/29/2008 9:00:06 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: marshmallow
Right. The first responders have to be local and state, and there the 'Rats dropped the ball. Tertiary Feds' problem.

Let's face it, The GOP in the Bush era is rife with lowlife RINO bureaucrats.

11 posted on 12/29/2008 9:01:43 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: marshmallow

Given the fact he had NO POWER to act until their idiot Governor asked for it, it isn’t applicable. Just another nail in the Constitution Coffin as far as the socialists go.


12 posted on 12/29/2008 9:02:03 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: flash2368

Name ‘em.


13 posted on 12/29/2008 9:02:25 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: marshmallow

George Bush warned both Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco that they ought to evacuate people in the path of the storm DAYS before those two idiots finally decided maybe they ought to listen.

The insane re-writing of history by the Democrats and the MSM ever since has been beyond disgraceful.

This was emphatically NOT “Bush’s Fault,” but the fault of two Louisiana Democrat leaders, just as the mortgage meltdown ia almost exclusively a Democrat debacle.

The spin over the past four years has been unprecedentedly vile.


14 posted on 12/29/2008 9:02:35 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: marshmallow
Just think.

He could have reversed his failed Presidency.

All with one act, in several simple stages.

Completely doing a 180 and opposing all amnesty, starting up the mass deportations and cut off all all federal services to illegal invaders, and building the US-Mexico border wall faster and higher than anyone could ever have imagined. He would have had the bucks. He lacked the WILL.

His popularity would be soaring in the 70% level.

Shame, Mr. President.

15 posted on 12/29/2008 9:03:03 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Bushbot-ism: The depths of subjective idiocy & academic dishonesty among so-called "Conservatives")
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To: marshmallow

With friends like these, who needs enemies???


16 posted on 12/29/2008 9:03:59 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: marshmallow


17 posted on 12/29/2008 9:04:12 PM PST by TonyStark
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To: marshmallow

I don’t think Katrina was the lowest point.

GWB administration including Powell will be attached to WMD well beyond their days.

Cruel as it may seem, the Katrina storm/flood was coming one day. Living at or near sea level is living dangerously. Rebuilding on at risk areas is insane no matter what the jazz artist and cookies want.


18 posted on 12/29/2008 9:04:36 PM PST by Doug TX
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To: Thumper1960; flash2368; Admin Moderator

I’m thinkin’ “flash” needs a flush.


19 posted on 12/29/2008 9:05:14 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: JennysCool

THANK YOU!!!!


20 posted on 12/29/2008 9:05:25 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: marshmallow

The Katrina failure should be laid at the State and local level.


21 posted on 12/29/2008 9:06:15 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: marshmallow

Bush’s chief problem seems to have been that he appointed thousands of moles and traitors at all levels of his administration, who turned on him whenever they got the chance. He lost control of the Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA, the State Department, the EPA, the Treasury, and just about everything else.

We all know that the real screw-ups in Katrina were the NOLA and Louisiana politicians, notably the mayor and governor. And of course the press lied their heads off over it.

But Bush has been ill served by his appointees, including these two. And he did a lousy job of talking to and counteracting the press, as well. He was much too polite to the Louisiana politicians who were screwing him and blaming him for their own messes.


22 posted on 12/29/2008 9:06:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marshmallow

Looks to me that GWB’s main downfall was hiring a bunch of no-talent, turncoat clowns.


23 posted on 12/29/2008 9:08:00 PM PST by hsrazorback1 (Seek truth.)
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To: JennysCool

George Bush has his faults. Lord above knows he does. But, to make unsubstaniated claims that folks close to the president describe him a fool, stupid and an imbecile is out of line.


24 posted on 12/29/2008 9:12:06 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: TonyStark

25 posted on 12/29/2008 9:13:37 PM PST by Rastus
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To: marshmallow
The reaction to Katrina should have been 85% underway before Washington or Bush was even informed about it. Nagin sat on his sorry ass waiting for someone else to clean up his mess, while his chosen people looted and robbed every store they could find.

The Governoress of the fine state of Louisiana should have been all over this as she has the power of calling out the National Guard, who could have been of great assistance in driving some of those 100+ unused school buses that Nagin forgot about.

Bush's only problem is he let Nagin, the governoress, and the press put him on the defensive, and became reactionary. He should have been on the tube telling everyone that relief would have come sooner had the first reponders - state and local governments - done their duty.

But, Bush did respond will millions of dollars - handing out "cash cards" to residents like penny candy, which they were blowing on strip joints and dope. I guess they thought he was supposed to give them some mad money to play with, and later give them more for a place to live.

I'm sorry if you're starving, but if I give you $1000 bucks and you piss it away, don't come later asking for food.

Katrina was just a golden opportunity for the final coup de gras for Bush by the MSM and the libs. Bush did everything that anyone else would have done, but there is nothing in creation that Bush could ever do to satisfy liberals...or the press.

I won't wish anything bad on the people, but I would really like to have seen how obama would have handled it.
26 posted on 12/29/2008 9:14:14 PM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: marshmallow

But Ray Nagin was reelected!


27 posted on 12/29/2008 9:16:17 PM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: marshmallow

The problem is when the Dems came out in the aftermath and pinned this on Bush there were no Repubs that came out to counter these charges and put the blame back where it belonged directly on the Gov and Mayor.


28 posted on 12/29/2008 9:17:43 PM PST by Balata ("Truth surfaces when FReeRepublic is engaged."-Balata)
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To: Retired Chemist
But Ray Nagin was reelected!

stupid is as stupid does

29 posted on 12/29/2008 9:20:20 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: marshmallow

G.W.Bs Father got screwed by his perceived inaction to a major hurricane as well.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/29338.html


30 posted on 12/29/2008 9:22:05 PM PST by OCC
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To: marshmallow
The media turned this into a Bust error and point to his "doing a great job Brownie" comment to back it up. When you have a media that hates you it is a good idea to anticipate what they will say if you do things a certain way.

I would have loved to see him say we tried but Mayor Nagin was hiding under his desk and Gov. Blanco was hiding in her bedroom, but President Bush would never point a finger at the real problem people, this became his burden to bear.

31 posted on 12/29/2008 9:22:17 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: marshmallow
I guess some people don't want to have to give up their Georgetown condos under the Obama Administration.

Who hired these backstabbers?

Once that bond was broken, he no longer had the capacity to talk to the American public.

No, Bush was a terrible communicator before Katrina, during Katrina, and after Katrina. He has his strengths and he accomplished some great things, but he was rarely able to bypass the MSM spin and talk to the American public.

32 posted on 12/29/2008 9:22:31 PM PST by TChad
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To: marshmallow

Katrina may be “down the list” but Bush did display a political tin ear with his comment about “great job, Brownie” to his good-ole-boy FEMA director when there were shortcomings in the Federal response. Lord knows, the governor and mayor were screwing the pooch by the numbers so the Federal response needed to step it up a notch to cover the state/local SNAFUs.


33 posted on 12/29/2008 9:23:24 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: marshmallow

bump


34 posted on 12/29/2008 9:23:35 PM PST by indthkr
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To: AmericanInTokyo

He wanted the amnesty, he was holding news conferences with Vicente Fox prior to 911 stating how they were going to do this, 911 put it off to the second term.


35 posted on 12/29/2008 9:23:37 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Retired Chemist

So was William Jefferson. Doesn’t say much for the voters in NOLA, does it.


36 posted on 12/29/2008 9:24:42 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: flash2368

Ok - I read some of your comments on other threads and you seem like a reasonably smart person so I have a question/comment or two.

W has an MBA from Harvard - how can you be dumb as a box of rocks and still get that? He also is/was a jet pilot - you can’t be stupid and do that.

I’m not saying he hasn’t made huge mistakes - he seems to have become very passive and certainly hasn’t displayed a conservative soul. His drove me nuts on amnesty, not to mention a few other things, but not Katrina.

So is W’s brain really Dick Cheney? Is that why W didn’t choose an electable successor to be his VP during the second term?


37 posted on 12/29/2008 9:34:42 PM PST by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: icwhatudo
I will bet you didn't get that photo from Vanity Square!

LOL!

I thought it deranged at the time, and still find it unfathomable, that anyone could possibly blame “the Federal government” for a natural disaster.
But blame them, they do.

As if “they (the feds)” had given no warning of impending doom.
I can relate only to a certain extent.
Tell me a Cat 1 is on the way...I might turn on my emergency radio before I go to sleep.
Tell me a Cat 2 is headed my way...I will fill sandbags, bathtubs, and stockpile more food and water, enough for several weeks.
Tell me of a Cat 3...I will empty my checking account to drive away/evacuate to a safer area, two states away.
Cat4 or Cat5 ... see Cat 3, add financial distress.

38 posted on 12/29/2008 9:36:10 PM PST by sarasmom (Buyers Remorse Date : Place your bets ladies and gentlemen.)
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To: eyedigress
“But Ray Nagin was reelected!”

“stupid is as stupid does”

If I remember correctly, Nagin had people who had moved out of the area vote. So, yes he was reelected but by whom? It wasn't by the people living in the area.

39 posted on 12/29/2008 9:43:43 PM PST by repubpub
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To: marshmallow

Bush’s biggest weakness: Doesn’t defend himself. It leaves openings for those around him who are gutless and lack any conviction, except to play the PR side of the political fence in the way that best serves them. For instance, many in the state department, including so many Powell confidantes, sabotaged Bush in multiple ways. Personally, despite failings - and EVERY president has had shortcomings - I’m glad we had a mature adult leading our nation the last eight years, one who put what he firmly believed was best for the country before his own interests. Now we get a potential Benedict Arnold for president, a guy whose resume makes Sarah Palin’s look like Winston Churchill’s by comparison.


40 posted on 12/29/2008 9:46:46 PM PST by line drive to right
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To: sarasmom

I still have a hard copy of the Sunday release NWS forecast for New Orleans. It is harrowing. Lazy morons all.


41 posted on 12/29/2008 9:46:57 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: T-Bird45
What, exactly did the feds do wrong at the time?
I know what the local and state government failed to do.
What failure do you ascribe to the feds?
Forgetting the omniscience of hindsight, and the primacy of responsibility of local and state agencies.
42 posted on 12/29/2008 9:47:31 PM PST by sarasmom (Buyers Remorse Date : Place your bets ladies and gentlemen.)
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To: marshmallow

I disagree. Katrina has been one of his major blunder, IMO. Admitting something that he was not responsible for started the change of tide. Until Katrina, people saw the acussations against him as ‘leftist talks’. After Katrina, where he offered to be martyr and brought with him the whole image of conservatism, people started to buy whatever the MSM said about him (and Republicans as well as conservatives). Bush, after all, confessed that it’s his fault.


43 posted on 12/29/2008 9:47:49 PM PST by paudio (Conservatism is a word with various meanings. To win, we need unified issue and message.)
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To: marshmallow
The list of traitors just keeps growing. These stories all start the same...”Of George Bush's loyal supporters none were more loyal than (insert name of latest traitor), but now (name of most recent traitor) is compelled to come forward with shocking revelations about the president.

I have a great plan for Mr. Bush to become a billionaire once he leaves office. He should write his own Bush-bash book. Suggested title “George Bush: Even I Hate Myself”. The liberals would eat it up and make W an instant billionaire.

44 posted on 12/29/2008 9:48:18 PM PST by bushinohio
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Read past the early paragraphs and this story is even more repulsive. Somehow the MSM managed to get someone, Powell’s lackey Wilkerson, to use something totally unrelated to take a ridiculously cheap shot at Gov. Palin, implying that because the MSM has deemed Bush a failure, Palin would also be the same due to certain deemed similarities. The MSM is truly scared of her.


45 posted on 12/29/2008 9:50:39 PM PST by Anti-MSM (Personal responsibility...what a concept!)
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To: flash2368

> Comments to me

bullshit


46 posted on 12/29/2008 9:51:17 PM PST by old-ager
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To: marshmallow

BS. Liberals never gave Bush a chance from DAY ONE. Katrina or not, they would have come up with something to ‘lose trust’ over.

I have my beefs with Bush’s performance but fair is fair. He was hit with a lot of big unexpected stuff and he was up to the task.


47 posted on 12/29/2008 9:52:48 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Anti-MSM
The MSM is truly scared of her.

In turn they are scared of us. Even Bambi had to talk about the guns and ammo sales...Why would he even address it?

48 posted on 12/29/2008 9:58:24 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: marshmallow
Sources are remarkable only for their consistent bias.....

Ex-Aides quoted by Vanity Fair via Associated Press via Yahoo News

49 posted on 12/29/2008 10:01:32 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: marshmallow
Lawrence Wilkerson

This one is a complete enemy of Bush. It is fitting he worked for Powell who should never have been in the Cabinet.

50 posted on 12/29/2008 10:02:23 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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