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Palin, Populism and Potential...(MSM &dRAT hatred of Sarah Palin may be the key to future)
Intellectual Conservative ^ | December 28, 2008 | Steven D. Laib

Posted on 12/30/2008 8:07:53 AM PST by IrishMike

What made the Democrats hate Sarah Palin may be the key to future Republican success.

My recent participation in several Conservative on-line networks has led me to some interesting questions regarding the future of American politics, along with what has happened to the Republican Party and why. Of particular interest to some of the people I have contacted has been the question of why the Left hates Sarah Palin so much. Others were more focused on possibilities for the future and were concentrating on organizing within the Party. After some consideration of a number of issues, it occurred to me that several may be linked, and that there might be a solution to more than one question found in examining some of what we can see, post-election. Here then, are some thoughts related to my observations and what they might mean for the future.

When people wanted to know why the political left hated Sarah Palin so profoundly it me to examine carefully who Governor Palin was, or what she did that could lead to such a reaction. I believe that a significant part of the answer lies with a political philosophy known as populism. A reasonable definition of populism is a political movement by a large number of common people against a set of elites (or perhaps elitists) who deprive them of the rights, values and prosperity that they would and should enjoy under the doctrine of popular sovereignty. It has, in general, become identified with any political movement that seeks to overturn a socio/political status quo because that status quo does not serve the best interests of the people and their identification with the nation.

When I first became acquainted with Sarah Palin I was convinced thatshe could be identified as a Conservative Populist; a somewhat new itemon the political scene because populism has been identified for so longas the domain of the political left. Columnist Peggy Noonan apparentlyagrees with my identification but does not like Palin's approach to politics; perhaps because Noonan is out of touch with the Americanmainstream. I have been watching Noonan in the Wall Street Journal,for some time now, and am convinced that she has all but abandoned herconservative roots to surrender to big government as the wave of thefuture, and the good of the nation be damned.

Meanwhile, Mike Huckabee has also been identified as a Conservative Populist in, for example, The Weekly Standard where he was called the only conservative who was speaking to the needs of the lower middle class. While no one should seriously dispute this it should be noted that Huckabee was identified in this role in January 2008, early in the election year.

What Palin and Huckabee faced, was that unfortunate fact that the Democrats had grabbed hold of populism with both hands and weren’t about to let go. Their brand of populism differed from Huckabee and Palin’s because they approached the voters with promises of handouts and guarantees of security in exchange for power. This is a strain of false populism, based on further elevating a group of elites and elitists that differed from the conservative approach which, according to The Weekly Standard sought to promote a middle class that was “industrious and striving, family-oriented, culturally conservative, religious, and patriotic.” It was exactly the opposite of what the Democrats wanted; dependency, little or no regard for the family, for traditional religion or for true patriotism as was defined by men and women who backed the war effort from 1942 through 1945.

Sarah Palin was, at least in part, an antidote to the Democrat stranglehold on populist rhetoric, and Democrat Party operatives recognized that. They had to discredit her and render her ineffective as quickly as possible or she might have stolen the election. In many respects, this anti-Palin campaign manifested in the minds of many of her supporters as “hate,” and given the attitude that many hard left Democrats have demonstrated during the last quarter century; that anyone who does not share their beliefs has no legitimate right to be heard, this belief is reasonable. Also, the fact that Sarah Palin manifested as an antidote to the Democrats’ false populism, as a someone who can capture a significant following leads us to an important conclusion; that there is a market for Conservative Populism in the American Electorate, if it has the right candidate to follow.

What should also be clear is that Sarah Palin has provided Republicans and Conservatives with a roadmap. It is a roadmap that was available previously, but which the party failed to follow. It was a failure of leadership and of statesmanship, wherein the Party moved left, while failing to meaningfully address the genuine needs of the people. Instead of achieving real results they threw money around, and likely created additional problems for the future when the bills for the additional spending eventually come due. Essentially, Republicans allowed the Democrats to define the problem and the method for solving it and ended up acting like Democrat elitists. It was a no-win situation no matter how you looked at it because true conservatives would not accept this kind of behavior.

Conservative populism or true populism requires several things that many politicians are unwilling to do; they must remove unnecessary cabinet positions, deconstruct useless government departments and restore greater control to the individual citizens and to the states. They must stop incessant spending, and come to realize that there must be no such thing as an “entitlement” under the law. All of this could make a tremendous difference, but it takes statesmanship and real leadership to do it. These are qualities that are sadly lacking in most Republican politicians today. Instead of giving the people a real choice, and real differences in policy, they give voters a choice between a real Democrat and a Peggy Noonan Republican who is better defined as a Democrat pretending to be something else.

One of the most important aspects of what makes Sarah Palin different is the fact that she is not part of the traditional Eastern college, big money, Washington insider school of politics. It is likely that after two Bush family members who both fit this mold, along with John McCain who seems more at home on the Left side of the aisle than on the Right, the Republican mainstream is looking for something else. That something else appears to be someone who is from the same background they are; someone who has both feet grounded in the real world, instead of the world of elites, big money and an “inside the beltway” mentality.

In the wake of the 2008 election Conservative commentator Tammy Bruce has credited the poor Republican showing to Conservatives staying home instead of voting for John McCain. This is probably not a baseless claim. Democrats will generally vote for their candidate, regardless of circumstances. Conservatives and many Republicans will not. Despite statements by members of the talk radio crowd that John McCain had genuine conservative credentials, many people I spoke with here in the Houston area as well as those I correspond with around the nation disagreed. One of the many criticisms I heard repeatedly was that McCain was out of touch with the voters he expected to elect him. These same people were frequently of exactly the opposite opinion with respect to Palin. They saw her as someone they could trust, rather than someone likely to double-cross them.

So where does this lead us? It should lead us to the conclusion that victory in the future will most likely come by returning to the roots of the party; to middle America, and to what middle Americans want and need, instead of promising them the same things that the opposition does. It should be clear by now what they want; real differences and a real break with the do-nothing past. Senator Obama promised “change” which meant more of the same old liberal policies. Republicans can make real change by doing something different and by promoting candidates who are not insiders. It will take real efforts to do this, and it will require a shake up of the power structure that is doing its best to avoid one. This will not be easy, but it is likely the only way to restore America to what it was and pave the way for what it can and should be.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; elections; gop; palin; pds; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 12/30/2008 8:07:53 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: GipperGal; mick

Ping


2 posted on 12/30/2008 8:14:55 AM PST by Al B.
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To: IrishMike

Simple..Conservative women can not be alloed to suceed. It would mess up the left wing template of women need the government to save them from evil white men.


3 posted on 12/30/2008 8:17:09 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: All

Excellent and well-written article, and one that will never see the likes of a major, liberal newspaper.

This is what real journalism looks like, not the 8th grade “I’ve got a crush on Obama and BTW, isn’t he sooooo dreamy” crap we’ve been seeing/reading/hearing for the last two years.


4 posted on 12/30/2008 8:18:18 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield (Barack Obama is "The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers")
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To: IrishMike

Good commentary. Thank you.


5 posted on 12/30/2008 8:19:30 AM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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To: IrishMike

BINGO


6 posted on 12/30/2008 8:21:13 AM PST by NeilGus
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To: IrishMike
Good read. Governor Palin is one of ‘us’. I can't remember the last time I thought so highly of a politician. As much as I loved Reagan not even he piqued my interest the way Sarah did. And for a the tough road ahead I can't think of anyone better suited to lead the way.
7 posted on 12/30/2008 8:23:10 AM PST by LiberConservative
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To: screaminsunshine

There can be no doubt that Palin’s potential appeal among independent women was a major fear for the Democrats but it was here solid conservative views that truly petrified them.


8 posted on 12/30/2008 8:25:01 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: screaminsunshine
Simple..Conservative women can not be alloed to suceed. It would mess up the left wing template of women need the government to save them from evil white men.

Almost but not quite right. Hillary had to go also. Even a big government liberal woman could not be allowed to succeed because that would mess up the template and prove that we no longer need big government liberalism to protect the minority of the day. Liberals and the media are the most sexist of all groups in today's society. They don't want any women to succeed because that would threaten their power.

9 posted on 12/30/2008 8:25:24 AM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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To: IrishMike
One of the most important aspects of what makes Sarah Palin different is the fact that she is not part of the traditional Eastern college, big money, Washington insider school of politics

There are even posters on FR who argue that Sarah Palin is unqualified for national office because she didn't attend an Ivy League school, hails from a sparsely-populated Western state, and has no Washington experience.

10 posted on 12/30/2008 8:29:39 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: IrishMike
I can't speak for the entire nation, but I can tell you about the view from Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania because the Mrs. and I worked on the campaign. Before Sarah was on the ticket, the GOP headquarters was largely deserted and couldn't give lawn signs away.

Volunteers came out of the woodwork once Sarah was on the ticket. Sarah is the only thing which kept this election from being something like a 60%-40% blowout.

She spent a lot of time in southwest Pennsylvania and was the main reason our swing county went 58% for McCain.

McCain didn't even show up here-- every volunteer I talked to or worked with here in Westmoreland County was there because of Sarah.

This is NOT a Republican county. Mondale carried it during the Reagan landslide of 1984. Registered Democrats are over 60% of the voter rolls here. No Republican has ever been elected to the state house of representatives from our district since it was created in 1969 until this year.

This county is heavily Catholic, blue collar and union, more urban than rural and we saw everyone campaign here this year except McCain-- Obama, Biden, Hillary and Sarah. And guess who beat them all?

11 posted on 12/30/2008 8:30:51 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: LiberConservative

Any GOP candidate running in primaries over the next few years will kill to get Palin’s endorsement.


12 posted on 12/30/2008 8:31:04 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: IrishMike
Despite statements by members of the talk radio crowd that John McCain had genuine conservative credentials, many people I spoke with here in the Houston area as well as those I correspond with around the nation disagreed. One of the many criticisms I heard repeatedly was that McCain was out of touch with the voters he expected to elect him. These same people were frequently of exactly the opposite opinion with respect to Palin. They saw her as someone they could trust, rather than someone likely to double-cross them.

One website is selling bumper stickers that read, "Don't blame me--I voted for Palin"

13 posted on 12/30/2008 8:33:23 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: IrishMike
I believe the usage of the word "Populism" or "Populist" with regards to Sarah Palin is sadly incorrect. For the Huckster, it is closer to the truth.

According to Webster's on-line, the word "Populist" has the following meaning:

1: a member of a political party claiming to represent the common people ; especially often capitalized : a member of a United States political party formed in 1891 primarily to represent agrarian interests and to advocate the free coinage of silver and government control of monopolies

Furthermore, the attempt to link the Huckster to Governor Palin is also misguided as the Huckster does believe and openly states his support for Big-government and his disregard for limited-government Republicans while Governor Palin, more or less, is a limited-government conservative.
14 posted on 12/30/2008 8:34:10 AM PST by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: IrishMike
Imho, today, the conservative intelligentsia has disdain for populism.

Even The Great Man Ronald Reagan was not liked in his time for some of his populist views.

The establishment disliked Reagan...

“All great change in America begins at the dinner table.”

The Great Man Ronald Reagan

15 posted on 12/30/2008 8:38:22 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave
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To: SoConPubbie; All

To be honest, I think that populist and socialist are the same except that the populist would like to have the Government monitor our bedrooms..


16 posted on 12/30/2008 8:40:02 AM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: Fiji Hill
FR has no shortage of idiot posters. We see that every time Mitt Romney, at worst a Bush-like RINO, gets a thread. You'd think he was a bigger threat to the republic than Al Qaida or Obama by the vitriol in some of the posts.

However, I'm now convinced that Sarah Palin could beat him in an election in Utah and he knows it. He may spend the next four years honing up his conservative credentials to be a VP or cabinet member (where he may actually shine), but Sarah is front runner in 2012 if she wants it.

Best of all, Sarah sucks all the oxygen out of that Judas Goat Hucksterbee. Evangelicals love her, and so do Catholics and Mormons. There is nothing Elmer Gantry or bigoted about her. She may very well be Teddy Roosevelt or Ronald Reagan in a skirt.

17 posted on 12/30/2008 8:47:16 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: IrishMike

I’m not anti-elites on principle, it’s just that for a nation this great we should have much better elites than ones we have.

We should have elites that love this nation, its culture, its constitution, but we have the opposite.


18 posted on 12/30/2008 8:47:50 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Why did the GOP have to go and run Wilford Brimley against Will Smith?)
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To: IrishMike
One of the most important aspects of what makes Sarah Palin different is the fact that she is not part of the traditional Eastern college, big money, Washington insider school of politics. ...... ......someone who is from the same background they are; someone who has both feet grounded in the real world, instead of the world of elites, big money and an “inside the beltway” mentality.

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19 posted on 12/30/2008 8:48:30 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady of the North")
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To: Fiji Hill
There are even posters on FR who argue that Sarah Palin is unqualified for national office because she didn't attend an Ivy League school, hails from a sparsely-populated Western state, and has no Washington experience.

Those are the very qualities that attracted me to her in the first place.

20 posted on 12/30/2008 8:54:04 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady of the North")
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To: Fiji Hill

Yup. I was amazed to find a couple of Republican friends who didn’t vote for McCain because of Palin...they said she wasn’t qualified.

I’m afraid the Mainstream Media affects Republicans as well as the Mindless Middle.


21 posted on 12/30/2008 8:55:31 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Mainstream Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: IrishMike
. . . or she might have stolen the election.

I don't think that phrase means what Laib thinks it means.

22 posted on 12/30/2008 8:58:52 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: IrishMike
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“In the wake of the 2008 election Conservative commentator Tammy Bruce has credited the poor Republican showing to Conservatives staying home instead of voting for John McCain. This is probably not a baseless claim. Democrats will generally vote for their candidate, regardless of circumstances. Conservatives and many Republicans will not. Despite statements by members of the talk radio crowd that John McCain had genuine conservative credentials, many people I spoke with here in the Houston area as well as those I correspond with around the nation disagreed. One of the many criticisms I heard repeatedly was that McCain was out of touch with the voters he expected to elect him. These same people were frequently of exactly the opposite opinion with respect to Palin. They saw her as someone they could trust, rather than someone likely to double-cross them.”
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John is/was a politician through and through. He was formed by the disciplines of the Army/Navy/AirForce ... armed services. He said he knew how it works in Washington and he knew how to fix it. No real meat as to how he would do it. He does/did not want to listen to the people. After all ... he knows best. Sarah was a brilliant choice. I believe it was inspired by God. There are no accidents. She is an important part of our future.We saw how the press/medias/liberals controlled the news; and still are controlling it.

#1 There are more Democrats than Republicans. Republicans do not unite well. We splinter and conversely ... do ourselves in ... leading to a lost election overall: Congress, Executive, Judicial. This portends bad things coming for America. In Spades.

Students of history can see this happens over and over again. It appears ... we do not learn from History. Perhaps real recent history abit. On second thought no we do not learn ... else how could it be we have essentially the Clinton's and their cohorts all back in office as of January 20,2009?

The Democrats were campaigning for many months before the election. They had thousands of volunteers doing constant legwork, getting their teams up and operating 18 months before the election. Did the Republicans? We are bested ... not by ideas but by long range planning and hard work ... backed by lots of money.

While we listen to Rush, Shaun, Laura, and several others on talk shows; and we feel like that is enough. Ann Coulter writes a book or two;and we agree with her and seem to think that our posting to the inter net to others like us is sufficient.

Does it work that way? You decide.

23 posted on 12/30/2008 8:59:39 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: IrishMike
GO SARAH GO !
24 posted on 12/30/2008 9:01:45 AM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: timestax

Governor Palin might not want to run after all the bad, false sh*T that was thrown at her by Demoncraps and Repubs alike!


25 posted on 12/30/2008 9:04:20 AM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: SoConPubbie
I believe the usage of the word "Populism" or "Populist" with regards to Sarah Palin is sadly incorrect. For the Huckster, it is closer to the truth.

She is a Jacksonian "populist".

The Jacksonian Tradition

His reason was like lightning and his action like a thunderbolt" Amos Kendall,.

Prominent Jacksonians: Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Dick Cheney, Fred Thompson, Oliver North, Pat Buchanan, Zell Miller, Sarah Palin

26 posted on 12/30/2008 9:04:59 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady of the North")
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To: IrishMike

This guy is a lousy writer. He needs to edit his work. And calling Palin a populist is lowbrow. She’s popular because she’s conservative, and RINOs have a lot of trouble with that.


27 posted on 12/30/2008 9:10:15 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Lonely Are The Brave
The Great Man Ronald Reagan

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A legend, still in the making.
Hence the liberal MSM’s frenzy to re write history.

28 posted on 12/30/2008 9:11:00 AM PST by IrishMike (Barry Soetoro has demonstrated that he is a shenanigans man !)
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To: IrishMike

So, let me get this straight...
You slandered my daughter, you libeled me,
you threw my political future under the campaign bus,
you allowed the media to convince The Sheep who I am,
you torched my church Odinga-style,
and you expect me to do WHAT for you in 2012??

Keep all your hate in the lower 48, because
I'm staying in Alaska after 2010, and
you all can kiss my perfectly-formed ass!

29 posted on 12/30/2008 9:14:35 AM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: IrishMike
The left hates Palin because she is young and all youth are suppose to be enthralled with Obama. Don't (not you personally) underestimate the attractive power of youth on the American psyche and the Democrats know it. She is youthful and a fighter — two important qualities McCain lacked. If Obama screws up royally — like Bill Clinton — the mystique will shatter for a while and that will be the shoe in for Palin. Palin needs a counter to the biased media and Republicans have to come up with that solution — something they have ignored for years.
30 posted on 12/30/2008 9:15:40 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: MathDoc

Just have a look at google, put in Sarah Palin
and before you select anything the prompter suggests

Sarah Palin 49,200,000 results
Sarah Palin pictures 18,200.00 results
Sarah Palin Photos 24,000,00 results

and the list is long which by itself stands out because of the relatively short period of time since she was picked by Johnny Mc Vain and entered the national spotlight.


31 posted on 12/30/2008 9:23:47 AM PST by IrishMike (Barry Soetoro has demonstrated that he is a shenanigans man !)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

The left assaulted Sarah because she represented the wedge issues that fueled the Bush - Rowe victories: God, guns and gays. She was an election winner and had to be destroyed. Obamachev signaled that it was OK to slime her by calling her a pig. We have to admit the campaign against her was successful.

I think McCain made a mistake tapping her with little time to prepare for national exposure. Maybe in 2012, Sarah will be more prepared.


32 posted on 12/30/2008 9:25:46 AM PST by y6162 (ater)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Obama’s position is very vulnerable right now. He has to tread a fine line between becoming a socialist, leftist and the moderate clintonesque rightist. It all takes just one major screw-up. It might be as simple as mishandling Iran (BTW, Iran was the Achilles heel for Carter and very well might be for Obama too). Once, people know there is a viable alternative in Sarah, they will desert him in droves. Then, it will be 1976 all over again


33 posted on 12/30/2008 9:28:19 AM PST by MooseChic
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To: IrishMike
The dominant polarizing influence in politics is not self interest or ideology. It is culture.She was a middle class type who was populist. The middle class and those who sympathize with it are usually republicans and the people who do not fit into it or don't sympathize with it are Dem's. She was also a threat when they thought they had it in the bag she proved she could be a game changer so they dumped on her and destroyed her to all except the GOP base which loves her for the reasons mentioned above.
34 posted on 12/30/2008 9:32:03 AM PST by bilhosty
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To: timestax

bump


35 posted on 12/30/2008 9:36:42 AM PST by timestax ( CNNLIES)
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To: Kevmo
And calling Palin a populist is lowbrow. She’s popular because she’s conservative, and RINOs have a lot of trouble with that.

She's has many "conservative bonifides" e.g. supports low taxes for small business, prolife etc. but also took Exxon and Chevron to court in order to get get a piece of their profits sending each Alaskan citizen their cut of $1500 each.

A very "populist" but "unconservative" policy.

The Dems used to own these kinds of "giveaways". That's why the liberal media essentially ignored it.

She is very much in the tradition of the "Reagan Democrats". Hence their fear.

36 posted on 12/30/2008 9:39:04 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady of the North")
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To: IrishMike
Sarah Palin was, at least in part, an antidote to the Democrat stranglehold on populist rhetoric, and Democrat Party operatives recognized that.

Hmmm. Has a ring of truth to it.

37 posted on 12/30/2008 9:46:30 AM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: IrishMike

[So where does this lead us?]

It leads us to having Jeb Bush shoved down our throats, that’s where. More Royalty, that will solve everything.


38 posted on 12/30/2008 9:54:31 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Old Sarge; IrishMike; Caleb1411
If Palin were Nixon, she'd probably take umbrage at the MSM and liberal fusillades against her. But she's more like Reagan, as Reagan biographer Paul Kengor notes:

When he was dubbed a warmonger and an idiot, blamed for everything from homelessness to AIDS, when it was asserted that he was engaging in an arms build-up not to draw the Soviets to the negotiating table but to launch nuclear war, when protestors staged “die-ins” dressed as mock coffins outside the White House, Reagan simply ignored them. When they screamed, he never listened.

Such accusations drove other men crazy. One president driven over the edge by the left’s rage was Richard Nixon. “Others may hate you,” said Nixon in his White House farewell, “but those who hate you don’t win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself.” Nixon let the hate of his enemies consume him, and then they won.

I sense that Sarah Palin understands these things.

Her virtues are destined to bring out the vices in her opponents. She loves, and they envy how she loves. She chooses life, and they assail her choice.

Her temperance and fortitude tempts their pride. Her faith, hope, and charity, inspires their disbelief, despair, and disdain. Her happiness fuels their anger.

Often, maintaining sanity and surviving means simply ignoring the haters. That’s where Ronald Reagan was before he stepped foot in the White House. And that’s a good place for a conservative Republican like Sarah Palin.

39 posted on 12/30/2008 10:04:52 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: IrishMike

So they had to crush her. Lies, rumors, bogus investigations, ignoring Biden's stupidity, no tactic is out of bounds when the goal is to defang the only real candidate in the field.

40 posted on 12/30/2008 10:10:58 AM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: mainepatsfan

I’m hoping that she establishes a PAC to raise money for 2010 races, mobilizes her volunteer forces, and campaigns in the lower 48 in 2010. If she does that the GOP could make a substantial comeback.


41 posted on 12/30/2008 10:17:32 AM PST by euram
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To: IrishMike

If the GOP wants to win, throw Wall Street and Corporate America under the bus, and the Reagan Democrats will come back. Those two entities have destroyed economic stability and have done more damage to the GOP politically. I know some freepers will remind me of the subprime mortgages, Fanni and Freddie Mac, but our financial system could survive the bad mortgages because it represented no more than 13 percent of all the mortgages in the US. Wall Street decided to use exotic leveraging tools to invest and securitize these mortgage notes at a ratio of 1 for 40. The government never told Wall Street to do that, Wall Street schemers took advantage of a SEC loophole and assumed real estate prices will never fall. Result banks and insurance companies profits in traditional products were totally wiped out by the losses in these exotic derivative and leveraging schemes. Bankers, financiers and corporate CEO are one of the most hated figures on main street for what they did to this country. Why is the GOP still allied with them, unless they feel money is more important than political survival. When GOP advocates free trade and free markets, to the average main street guy it means let corporate America and Wall Street decide what is good for America which resulted in trade deficit, job off shoring, abuse of H-1B guest worker program, advocate for illegal immigration amnesty, lobbying against enforcement of immigration laws, political correctness, suppression of US nationalism in workplace, financial meltdown, hedge fund ponzi schemes, bubble after bubble with average Americans taking hits on their investment portfolio and 401k plan. Today Wall Street have hijacked Washington DC and both party decided that banks and insurance companies are too big to fail but the rest of us are too small to save. As the economy enters DEPRESSION, politics will be about the common man (main street) versus Wall Street who controls to two political parties and have blackmailed our country with social chaos unless the taxpayers (main street) helps Wall Street recoup their losses vis taxpayer bailout.


42 posted on 12/30/2008 10:36:22 AM PST by Fee
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Populism no longer has a usable definition. That’s why poor writers will resort to its usage so they can apply their own loaded definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism


43 posted on 12/30/2008 10:45:30 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: IrishMike

It is just not MSM which hates Palin. I run into people all the time and who turn livid at the mention of Sarah Palin. I don’t understand the venom. She was never involved in Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica Lewinsky affair etc. Yet people on the left and even middle hate Sarah Palin like we in GOP have a thing about Hillary.


44 posted on 12/30/2008 10:56:46 AM PST by ajay_kumar (Wake me up when the NON-Natural Citizen is out of office.)
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To: IrishMike

The Left does not like conservativism. Especially a conservativism that believes in a moral standard, let alone one that acknowledges God.

If you are willing to tow the line that homosexuality is normal, same sex marriage is identical to the traditional binary pair of 2 people of opposite sex, abortion as a sacrament, er necessary “not quite evil”, etc. etc. you are on your way to acceptance by the Left. Because you’ve already adopted their positions.

McCain was not favored by crossover Democrats because he spoke their language. They considered him the most friendly advisary IF he happened to win. In the end, the Democrats for McCain, who’d been staffing his campaign since 2006, went on to work for the Obama campaign after McCain got the GOP nomination, their job was done. It wasn’t the nomination of Sarah Palin that made them jump ship, they ran interference against a more conservative candidate securing the GOP presidential nomination. That was IT.

They don’t like us. They didn’t like Nixon either. Long before Watergate they despised him for opposing Communism.

Obama didn’t win on ideas. There were no specifics. McCain’s “victory” was sold by the Democrats as another 4 years of Bush. In the end, Obama’s administration IS another 4 years of Clinton figures. This is what CHANGE looks like?

He was marketed like Pepsi with a logo, a portrait, and a name all in caps OBAMA(TM).

He’s Warholian. His 15 minutes of fame will expire before his term does.


45 posted on 12/30/2008 10:58:45 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: ajay_kumar

The Left had to hold their tongue on the Clintons for 16 years. It wasn’t until Hillary posed a threat against Obama’s candidacy that Democrats started to trash talk the Clintons.

And it was the media that sat on the Edwards adultery scandal all last year while he was talking up his wife’s cancer. Had to keep him viable to split the primary vote.

Media sat on their hands on the Blago scandal. The Chicago paper knew in October but they held their tongue. When it was clear that some Democrat was about to hand over money for a Senate seat, they spilled the beans ruining the investigation. There was no pressing need except to protect the party.

So since they never got to vent at Bill and Hill (and they aren’t trashing Obama for using a Clinton Cabinet and staff) they had to find a scapegoat, Sarah Palin. By golly.


46 posted on 12/30/2008 11:02:57 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: ajay_kumar

It does prove the MSM is doing a great disinformation job.


47 posted on 12/30/2008 11:05:01 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: IrishMike

Psst, those Google search suggestions are edited by staffers...

Google washes search results
The Register ^ | 012/14/2008 | andrew orlowski
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2148544/posts

Google this week admitted that its staff will pick and choose what appears in its search results. It’s a historic statement - and nobody has yet grasped its significance.

Not so very long ago, Google disclaimed responsibility for its search results by explaining that these were chosen by a computer algorithm. The disclaimer lives on at Google News, where we are assured that: The selection and placement of stories on this page were determined automatically by a computer program.

Google cranks up the Consensus Engine
The Register ^ | 12/12/2008
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2148523/posts

Not so very long ago, Google disclaimed responsibility for its search results by explaining that these were chosen by a computer algorithm. The disclaimer lives on at Google News, where we are assured that:

The selection and placement of stories on this page were determined automatically by a computer program. A few years ago, Google’s apparently unimpeachable objectivity got some people very excited, and technology utopians began to herald Google as the conduit for a new form of democracy.

*SNIP*

It wasn’t surprising, then, that when five years ago I described how a small, self-selected number of people could rig Google’s search results, the reaction from the people doing the rigging was violently antagonistic. Who lifted that rock? they cried.

But what was once Googlewashing by a select few now has Google’s active participation.


48 posted on 12/30/2008 11:06:09 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Dilbert56

Every election is historic. And not just because it becomes “landmark” (first draft dodger, first Vietnam Vet, first African/American, first woman, first POW...).

They become historic because each president will chart a different course. It BECOMES history.

But YES, the talking point was that the election of Obama was “historic” (in a way that electing McCain/Palin would NOT have been historic) and that WITH this election, something formerly unattainable was NOW possible. Except it was always possible.

I could always win the lottery too. Of course I could always NOT win the lottery as well. But it would be historic in my life if I did, because then I would become an instant millionaire.


49 posted on 12/30/2008 11:10:59 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Al B.; GipperGal
Thanks for the heads up ping.

The article is okay but a bit of a rehash over ground already covered by many others.

I think we need to move past why the left/dems/rinos/NYTimes people hate her. Old news.

Let us revel in their hatred and wear it as a badge of honor. And to paraphrase Patrick Henry in another context when his enemies tried to frame the debate..."If this be Treason, make the most of it"....."If she is hated , make the most of it" and stop trying to win them over!

Psychologically we are way past the Reagan model. IMO we are entering a pre-revolutionary time frame...where the old tried and true way to construct the interaction between the federal Government and the States and the people is breaking down. That is what is happening in the market. That is what Paulson and the Dems/rinos are fighting to preserve. And they will fail. The jig is up on big government. For one simple reason...IT IS BANKRUPT !

Palin represents REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE in the American System....and that is why she is hated and feared by those who are now living and feasting at the public trough. The more I think about this the more I believe she needs to just move forward and recognize the revolutionary aspects of what she represents.....if you look at the history of the 1760's and early 1770's you see the same pattern with people like Thomas Hutchinson in MA. and some of the richer planters in VA.....men who were very conservative against changing the status quo...men made rich and powerful by the existing system......and this pattern shows up time and again thru out our history...just like today with Wall Street and the Unions, just to name two...

Sarah Palin, and people like us who support her, are a serious threat to the existing establishment at all levels of our society......because she is an enemy of the Current Corporate Welfare State and everything that represents and the cultural rot it has created in this wonderful land of ours.....so in that sense I guess she isn't conservative at all; but a true cultural revolutionary like Andy Jackson as mentioned on another post.

Uh Oh, maybe we are too.

50 posted on 12/30/2008 11:27:49 AM PST by mick
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