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WashTimes: Republican Party policy Draft Rips Bush's "Socialist" Bailouts (Glory Alleluia)
Washington Times ^ | Ralph Zallow

Posted on 12/30/2008 8:30:32 AM PST by quesney

A group of Republican leaders including the vice-chair of the Republican National Committee say they will try in January to pass a resolution accusing President George Bush and congressional Republican leaders of embracing "socialist" policies. Pretty blunt.

(having some trouble accessing the website since it was put up on Drudge Report)

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; antibush; bho2008; bush; gop; gopdivision; otey; ourania; rnc; rncpolicy; selfmarginalization; socialists; solomon; yue
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Too much to hope for, but is the party waking up?
1 posted on 12/30/2008 8:30:33 AM PST by quesney
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To: quesney

Hallelujah!


2 posted on 12/30/2008 8:32:29 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: quesney
CHANGE we can believe in!

Well, I HOPE so, anyway.

3 posted on 12/30/2008 8:33:14 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: quesney
Did they close the golf courses?
4 posted on 12/30/2008 8:33:51 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was not enough)
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To: quesney
I'm skeptical. Just wait until someone sez "Dey's Racist!!", they'll go crawling back into the corner assume the submissive position


5 posted on 12/30/2008 8:35:08 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: quesney

Excerpt:

In what would amount to a slap in the face to a sitting Republican president and the party’s Senate and House leaders, national GOP officials, including the vice chairman of the Republican National Committee, are sponsoring a resolution opposing the resort to “socialist” means to save capitalism.

“We can’t be a party of small government, free markets and low taxes while supporting bailouts and nationalizing industries, which lead to big government, socialism and high taxes at the expense of individual liberty and freedoms,” said Solomon Yue, a cosponsor of a resolution that would put the RNC — the party’s national governing body — on the record as opposing the U.S. government bailouts of the financial and auto industries.

Republican National Vice Chairman and constitutional law attorney James Bopp Jr. authored the resolution and is asking the rest of the 168 voting members of the committee to sign it.

“The resolution also opposes President-elect Obama’s proposed public works program and supports conservative alternatives,” while encouraging the RNC “to engage in vigorous public policy debates consistent with our party platform,” Mr. Bopp said.

[...]

“Jim Bopp is the author of the no-bailout resolution because he wants to articulate our core principles now, not every four years when we have a presidential election,” said Mr. Yue, an Oregon member of the Committee. “This is based on the thinking that articulating political philosophy is equally important as applying it consistently.”

“Failing to do so, we have today’s identity crisis, which resulted in our losses in 2006 and 2008,” Mr. Yue said. “The bailout is a good example ... In my view, if we are not going to address this, we will see more losses in 2010.”


Can’t believe I’m reading this.


6 posted on 12/30/2008 8:39:30 AM PST by quesney
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To: quesney; All

More:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2156129/posts


7 posted on 12/30/2008 8:40:20 AM PST by quesney
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To: quesney
I could have told them eight years ago he was a closet socialist (compassionate conservatism is socialist light).

McCain is a bailout socialist too. Central economic planning. From each according to his abilities (taxpayers) to each according to his needs (corrupt and mismanaging CEO and corporations).

The elitist in both parties believe they know better how to spend your money than you do.

I may be registered as a Republican but that is just so I can vote. I am really a conservative.

Please find us another Regan before it is too late!

8 posted on 12/30/2008 8:40:47 AM PST by NickFlooding (Canceling out liberal votes since 1972.)
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To: quesney

Many members in the 167 have been for some time, now if they can only force others (elected pols and mouth pieces)to do the same, instead of ignoring what people who’ve been elected from their home states to go and represent the consensus of the Party around the country. Unfortunately, many elected “leaders” pretend that the various platform statements do NOT exist and they wind up being the only face of the Party.


9 posted on 12/30/2008 8:45:19 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: NickFlooding

“Please find us another Regan before it is too late!”

Found. Her name’s Palin. Just a couple weeks ago she proposed a 7% cut in spending with a more than 50% cut in capital spending. S&P a month ago reaffirmed the state’s AAA credit rating and lauded its financial managmeent.

That’s more Reagan than Reagan ever was.


10 posted on 12/30/2008 8:45:42 AM PST by quesney
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To: quesney
"We can't be a party of small government, free markets and low taxes while supporting bailouts and nationalizing industries, which lead to big government, socialism and high taxes at the expense of individual liberty and freedoms," said Solomon Yue, a cosponsor of a resolution that would put the RNC...

Solomon Yue?

Looks like maybe he's from Oregon?

11 posted on 12/30/2008 8:50:05 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: quesney
Just a couple weeks ago she proposed a 7% cut in spending with a more than 50% cut in capital spending.

What is "capital spending", and what portion of her budget does it constitute?

12 posted on 12/30/2008 8:51:38 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: NickFlooding
I could have told them eight years ago he was a closet socialist

But, but, he's a great president, a really nice guy and and...Well, in 500 years he'll be a greater president!

13 posted on 12/30/2008 8:54:04 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: quesney
“Jim Bopp is the author of the no-bailout resolution because he wants to articulate our core principles now, not every four years when we have a presidential election,” said Mr. Yue, an Oregon member of the Committee. “This is based on the thinking that articulating political philosophy is equally important as applying it consistently.”

I wish him a lot of luck in getting the message out. The articulation of conservative principles is like the tree falling in the forest. No one hears them because the DBM will not report them OR if they do report them, they are accompanied by editorializing about how women and children will starve and old people won't get their medicine.

But it will be a step in the right direction if the articulation of principles even reaches the "choir" and brings some disgruntled folks back on board.

14 posted on 12/30/2008 8:55:26 AM PST by randita
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I’m guessing around 7% since most of the proposed cut to the Alaska state budget was capital spending. Capital spending is spending on infrastructure, buildings, other structures, etc.


15 posted on 12/30/2008 8:55:39 AM PST by quesney
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To: NonValueAdded

Say it isn’t so.


16 posted on 12/30/2008 8:57:03 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: MuttTheHoople

Weimaraners are for owners with good taste.


17 posted on 12/30/2008 8:58:20 AM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: quesney; NonValueAdded
You are celebrating that Republicans are attacking President Bush?!

" A group of Republican leaders including the vice-chair of the Republican National Committee say they will try in January to pass a resolution accusing President George Bush and congressional Republican leaders of embracing "socialist" policies. "

Those so-called Republican leaders should focus on thwarting OBAMA's socialist/Marxist agenda, instead of attacking President Bush in the final days of his presidency.

What those Republicans are doing is pathetic, and people here cheering them on seem to enjoy watching the continued destruction of the Republican party and rise of the Democrats. Republican infighting was what got us Obama and the Dem majority in Congress.

18 posted on 12/30/2008 8:58:51 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: NickFlooding

Count me in as an independent since I changed my affiliation as soon as McCain was nominated.

If Palin can roust the GOP in 2012, I may rejoin but they get nothing from me or my support until there are radical changes.


19 posted on 12/30/2008 9:00:29 AM PST by wireplay
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To: Tarpon
I wasn't posting about the dog...just the hangdog, submissive look he had like the current crop of Republicans in charge.

I have a Rat Terrier that is the wimpiest, most submissive dog I've ever had. She'll roll on her back if you look at her funny. however, i don't have a picture of her i can link up.

20 posted on 12/30/2008 9:00:48 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: quesney

Great timing, they wait for now to issue this, after 5 trillion dollars are already spent?


21 posted on 12/30/2008 9:00:53 AM PST by dcgard
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To: quesney
I’m guessing around 7% since most of the proposed cut to the Alaska state budget was capital spending. Capital spending is spending on infrastructure, buildings, other structures, etc.

At the risk of catching Hades on this thread, in general, capital spending is what government is SUPPOSED to be doing.

What government is NOT supposed to be doing is all of this social spending which is driving us bankrupt.

22 posted on 12/30/2008 9:05:26 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: MuttTheHoople

We’ve had Weimaraners for a long time. They are very good family dogs, but you need a big yard for them to be really happy..


23 posted on 12/30/2008 9:07:34 AM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: NickFlooding

I’m not convinced that GWB is a closet socialist. I just thinks he lives to have a Democrat say something nice about him, and they NEVER do!


24 posted on 12/30/2008 9:08:35 AM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: Theodore R.

Maybe if Ramos and Compean were active liberal Democrats, GWB would pardon them.


25 posted on 12/30/2008 9:09:15 AM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: quesney
Her name is NOT Palin. Memories are short here. It was only this month that she proposed a socialist health care plan "for children" in Alaska. The only Republican politician I know of who can be trusted to fight big government across the board is Ron Paul.
26 posted on 12/30/2008 9:09:32 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: FocusNexus

No, GWB was the de facto campaign manager for Oprah’s Choice. He is responsible for what he face.


27 posted on 12/30/2008 9:10:17 AM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: Theodore R.
I’m not convinced that GWB is a closet socialist. I just thinks he lives to have a Democrat say something nice about him, and they NEVER do!

From a pragmatic point of view, what the heck is the difference, if the results are always the same?

28 posted on 12/30/2008 9:10:46 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: dragnet2

The Ramoses and Compeans must be appalled at GWB. Imagine how they will feel on Jan. 21.


29 posted on 12/30/2008 9:11:29 AM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: FocusNexus

No, I am celebrating the move away from democRAT-lite governance from the Republican party. If GWB gets tarred with that brush, it’s his own fault.


30 posted on 12/30/2008 9:13:01 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: quesney

Well, another Reagan would be too little too late: Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O’Connor, King Day, no response to KAL.


31 posted on 12/30/2008 9:13:07 AM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: MuttTheHoople

You need to find a better photo for a dog to represent the GOP.

I can’t be sure, but it looks like that dog still has a pair.


32 posted on 12/30/2008 9:14:37 AM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: Captain Kirk
It was only this month that she proposed a socialist health care plan "for children" in Alaska.

"Article / File Not Found"

You need the final "p" in the URL:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/132279.php

33 posted on 12/30/2008 9:14:57 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: quesney

Too little too late. But we can always hope.


34 posted on 12/30/2008 9:15:39 AM PST by LiberConservative ("I, you know, can see, you know, upstate, you know, from my house, you know.")
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To: FocusNexus
Republican infighting was what got us Obama and the Dem majority in Congress.

Yes, I agree. Republican infighting, and acting like "Democrat-lite" big-government socialists got us exactly where the Republican (RINO) party is now.

I agree with Solomon Yue and the other conservative Republicans. We must break from the "Democrat-lite" socialist past and begin educating people now about conservative (Reagan) principles so that when it is time to vote in 2010 and 2012, more Americans understand the principles they are voting for/against.

35 posted on 12/30/2008 9:16:02 AM PST by Prov3456
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To: quesney

...I don’t know, the libs hate Bush. This might just be another attempt to reach out to moderates and centrists...


36 posted on 12/30/2008 9:16:53 AM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: FocusNexus


We should rebuild the grassroots conservative movement. From the Reagan Revolution of 1980 through the Contract with America in 1994, it was this movement from outside Washington that carried us to the first center-right majority governing coalition in more than 60 years.

The problem has not been with conservatism or with our voters.

The problem has been with Republican leaders who forgot who elected them and what values their supporters expected to see implemented in Washington.

— Newt Gingrich, 11-13-2006

37 posted on 12/30/2008 9:17:01 AM PST by glock rocks (What's black, white and red all over? The Halfrican.)
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To: Theodore R.

http://www.scholarscorner.com/didache/socialism.htm
2004
When waging political war, you must recognize the battles you can win and those you cannot. Winning the hearts of the people over fiscal conservatism is a lost cause. The only remedy for this excess will be the collapse of the economy in massive debts, or the rebellion of the people over the crushing taxes they have voted for themselves. That’s right, it is not George Bush who is to blame for this demand for government services at public expense, we the people are.

(Prophetic)


38 posted on 12/30/2008 9:18:06 AM PST by griswold3
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To: FocusNexus
What those Republicans are doing is pathetic

Someone has to take a stand against socialism and Bush has not.

39 posted on 12/30/2008 9:20:23 AM PST by alrea (Nominate Hamas for the Nobel Prize.)
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To: Theodore R.
These republicans still don't get it. Look at what they said!
"The resolution also opposes President-elect Obama's proposed public works program and supports conservative alternatives," while encouraging the RNC "to engage in vigorous public policy debates consistent with our party platform," said Mr. Bopp

If I just read that correctly, screw them!

Here's what that says to me:

We pubs don't want Obama's socialism, we pubs want "conservative alternatives" to socialism. Socialism is socialism no matter who is writing the proposal!

2010 is so going to be a democratic year.

40 posted on 12/30/2008 9:21:52 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (I do not support the federal government's terrorist bailout plan ; Gitmo needs to stay put)
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To: quesney

It might be too late. The socialists who voted in BO will enjoy their free handouts and continue coming back to the trough for more.


41 posted on 12/30/2008 9:22:00 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: glock rocks
But don't make fun of the “Magic Negro”

Newt (2008)

42 posted on 12/30/2008 9:22:30 AM PST by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: quesney

From the article:

The RNC’s sole job historically has been to raise money for candidates and to pass the party line down the food chain to state and local leaders. Policy has been set by the party’s congressional leaders and, when a Republican sits in the White House, by the president.

The Bopp-Yue vanguard say they are determined to change that.

“For the past eight years, the RNC has been the political outreach of the White House,” said Arizona Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen, another resolution co-sponsor who led the 2006 immigration fight and who opposed Mr. Bush’s “economic policies promoting the ‘ownership society’ because they would eventually lead to the financial meltdown we are currently experiencing.”

“It is now time for the RNC to assert itself in terms of ideas and political philosophy,” Mr. Pullen added. “If we don’t do it now, when will we?”


Instead of promoting party unity to stand against the Democrats and raising money so Republican candidates would have a chance against the Dem machine, they are promoting division among Republicans, to further diminish any chances of the Republicans rising again.


43 posted on 12/30/2008 9:22:42 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: alrea

“Someone has to take a stand against socialism and Bush has not.”

They are NOT making a stand against socialism, they are making a stand against Bush. If they wanted to make a stand against socialismm, they would be working on electing more Republicans to counter Obama and the Democrats.

It’s the unfortunate usual circular firing squad, which enabled the Democrats to take over and go Obama elected.


44 posted on 12/30/2008 9:26:01 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: NickFlooding

“I could have told them eight years ago he was a closet socialist (compassionate conservatism is socialist light).”

“I have been much concerned that so many people with conservative instincts feel compelled to apologize for them.”
- Barry Goldwater “The Conscience of a Conservative”


45 posted on 12/30/2008 9:26:47 AM PST by MNReaganite (Bobby Jindal for President)
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To: FocusNexus

What they are doing is the right thing to do. We need some clarity. Some “bright pastels”.


46 posted on 12/30/2008 9:26:49 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: quesney

“House Minority Leader John A. Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, both of whom voted for the financial bailout but opposed the auto bailout, declined to comment.”

Bums! Let’s hear it! “We’re not really for small government,” they should say.


47 posted on 12/30/2008 9:27:29 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: NickFlooding

“Please find us another Regan before it is too late!”

One is currently governor of Alaska...I suspect there are others...it would be nice if we could have all-conservative choices in our primaries, then the vision to pick the right one...


48 posted on 12/30/2008 9:32:14 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: quesney

THANK GOD AND SOMEOME GET ALL THE SHARP INSTRUMENTS AWAY FROM THE BUSH0BOTS!


49 posted on 12/30/2008 9:32:41 AM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: NickFlooding
could have told them eight years ago he was a closet socialist (compassionate conservatism is socialist light).

I recall that many conservatives realized that, back then, but there was the "he's a socialist, but he's OUR socialist" crowd, too. What blew me away was how people were shocked at his immigration stance, when it was obvious for many years prior!

Many Bushbots self-deluded as badly as the 0bama crowd has...and I fear will do so again.

50 posted on 12/30/2008 9:34:04 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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