Skip to comments.Mall Brawl Raising Safety Concerns At Mayfair (Milwaukee)
Posted on 12/30/2008 7:36:53 PM PST by hercuroc
WAUWATOSA, Wis. -- A brawl at the Mayfair Mall is causing people to raise questions about the ongoing security problems at the shopping center.
Mall administrators have not commented on the incident.
Police said that a fight broke out between two men outside the malls Wet Seal store on Friday.
After some initial brawling, the fight spilled into the store and as many as eight more people joined the fray.
Police said that the battle turned the store into a mess and all the combatants scattered.
Mall surveillance cameras helped capture three of the people who allegedly took part; they are all facing disorderly conduct citations.
It's scary because young kids like my brother go there and he wouldn't go back shopping there by himself with his friends if there's fights there without a parent, Heidi Fregien, of Wauwatosa, said.
Word of the brawl drew mixed reaction among shoppers, some of whom said that they dont feel unsafe at the mall.
I think the problems have been pretty sporadic here over the course of the years. [The] movie theatre, I know they say brings in a lot of the problems, Random Lake resident Darin Retzer said.
Mayfair has faced similar problems in the past. In 2002, a fight at the theatre made headlines.
In 2007, the mall instituted new rules after several other incidents. It required an adult chaperone for anyone under 18 on Fridays and Saturdays.
Those rules didn't apply at the time, officers said.
Of the 10 alleged fighters, the three men taken into custody were adults.
"I think they need to up security, if it's that big of a problem, [you should] have more cops present," shopper John Murray said. "When I was young, you had your parents drop you off at the mall or the movies, you hung out and you caused trouble. That's what they're doing."
Murray said fights have been part of the shopping mall culture as long as he can remember.
All three suspects have dates in Wauwatosa Municipal Court in February. They face $600 disorderly conduct tickets.
Sorry wrong color.
Another Obama Voter meeting? Like the one at the Wal-Mart in New York on Black Friday.
“Sorry wrong color.”
And that has what to do with anything?
sigh..you are so behind the times..here is a picture of the actual fighting..
Mayfair is awful! Used to be a nice mall with great stores. Now, I get the whimwhams every time I go. Thugs everywhere.
Yeah, but your gang members aren’t from Milwaukee.
There are two big problems at Mayfair.
First one is the recently-added movie Marcus movie theater. It has attracted the gangbanger type of crowd, as well as a ton of black teens that are powder kegs waiting for someone to piss them off and prove what tough sh1ts they are. They mill around after movies, and words get exchanged and this crap happens.
Second is the bus route that buses most of these people here.
It is an urban black youth problem. Everyone knows it. Nobody has balls enough to say it publicly. They are busing Milwaukee’s troubled kids to Mayfair and this stuff happens.
They need to get rid of the movie theater. That will stop many of these people from coming to the mall in the first place, as they don’t come there to actually SHOP.
Second, they need to get rid of the bus routes to Mayfair. They can drop people off nearby, a few blocks away, but it will be inconvenient enough for gangbangers who don’t want to walk that far to go to a place that doesn’t have anything for them to do - as the theater will be gone.
Hey, they interviewed Harry from Third Rock from the Sun!
Just as I suspected—rampaging Amish youth again.
Dig the grandma reporter!
I heard mayfair went ghetto long time time ago. used to be a nice place back in the late 70’s early 80’s. I wounder how the rest of the town is doing. - There is a reason I don’t go back :o)
You think they would be too tired to fight, after a long day of productive labor. They were probably arguing over whether MIT or Caltech has the more stringent curriculum/s
You obviously don't live near Milwaukee so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.Watch the video and you'll be clued in.
Young blacks are ruining this mall the same way they did with one called Northridge nearby-which is presently closed and boarded up.
Bayshore isn’t too bad and Brookfield seems OK. Mayfair has some stores they don’t, but it isn’t worth the hassle. Grafton is getting some more stores, but I doubt we will get a mall.
I live in Milwaukee. Mayfair is one of the premier malls, good facilities BUT it attracts the bad elements. Recently, they stupidly decreased security. They also instituted a strict curfew for minors, but these guys were over 18. They should get rid of the movie theater and any stores that attract the wrong type.
Some tough police force up there in Milwaukee.
You got that right. When we watch the news, you can almost always tell if they say something happened in a given area, who the perps are. It is a shame that I can say that, but it is the truth.
I’ve seen the video. The problems at my local mall were caused my a mixture, but mostly redneck white toughs. In Russia, the punks who randomly beat people up for fun are all white. Again, what does the color of any of them have to do with anything?
She’s probably younger but they keep her outside all winter.
Way too many live remotes.
These guys very well could have attended “MIT.” Many years ago, Milwaukee Area Technical College (a 2 year community college) used to be named Milwaukee Institute of Technology (MIT) because it taught technical stuff like running a machine tool. Endless confusion, hilarity and jokes re Milwaukee MIT vs. Massachusetts MIT.
Warriors come out to plaaaayyy!
When I was young, we didn't.
It matters because in Milwaukee, this never happens with non-blacks, especially at Mayfair. It’s the culture that produces this behavior, not the skin color. It just happens that in Milwaukee, the culture of violence exits in the black community. BTW, this isn’t racist, its just the facts in this town. Other places might be different.
I used to, I left in 91. Where are the ghetto boundaries now? when I left it was heading west up past 60th going up Fond Du Lac to the north out of the ghetto. Capital court mall was closed and I think torn down.
I grew up in the St. Marget Mary Parish area - 92nd and Lisbon /Capital Dr.
North Ridge is boarded up?
I went there after my 4 year degree. The teachers back then at night school were really good. they were professionals that actually had a day job. I learned there.
We had a similar ‘brawl’ at Triangle Towne Center in Raleigh a few months ago. Several hundred urban youths clashed in the mall and the parking lot.
In the following days, youths of all colors were banned from the mall after dark unless accompnied by parents.
Those kids of the color not found to be rioting were somewhat put out by the non-deserved punishment.
Northridge. Grand Avenue. Capitol Court. it’s not like it is unpredictable.
Your post is 100% accurate.
The bus lines and the theatre ARE the problem at Mayfair Mall. A black guy at my workplace (who’s originally from Milwaukee) says the same thing. He’s one of those few black guys who’s a white wannabe.
Wauwatosa is no prize either these days. Being a first-ring suburb, it’s starting the see some of the dregs of Milwaukee move in there - especially in the apartments.
Sorry wrong color.
‘And that has what to do with anything?’
Tyranny of the minority - you’ve probably never heard that term.
Born & raised in Milwaukee. Lived years ago near Mayfair. At that time (the 80’s) it was the city’s premier mall. Haven’t been back in many years; hard to imagine that people are afraid to go there. But then again, I can remember when Northridge was the place to go (Actually, I can remember when it was a cornfield). Once was a very nice area. Can’t believe the mall is now boarded up.
I also remember Capital Court, Milwaukee’s first mall. For years it was a high class place to shop, back in the 60’s. But slowly it went downhill along with the neighborhood. If I’m not mistaken it was razed years ago.
My family now lives on the south side, and when I’m back in town we shop at Southridge, which is still quite a nice area to shop.
Let’s start over, shall we?
In this post... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2156517/posts?page=2#2
...two white guys were pictured. As a joke.
In this post ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2156517/posts?page=3#3
...someone said, Sorry, wrong color.
Meaning. The color of the yutes in the video were a different color than the picture in post two.
It was not meant as a racial slur.
Have a nice evening.
WARRIORS, come out and pla...ay.
The truth hurts, but refusing to face the truth doesn't make it any less true.
Wow! Northridge is closed and boarded up!?! I lived in Milwaukee from 1978 to 1981, then moved to Arizona. Back in the day, Northridge was a nice mall in a good area. Mayfair was nice, too. Is Southridge still there? Lots of high school memories...
It’s not a Marcus theater, it’s an AMC theatre. AMC isn’t from Milwaukee and they don’t give a damn about the community.
There is a housing project near Northridge on 91st St.
Northridge was a few blocks away so the young toughs would hang out there all day.People got sick of the hassle and crime and now it's closed up.
I went shopping there maybe a year before it closed and it was really intimidating inside.
You are right, I forgot. I even know they have an AMC logo on the outside. AMC is a worse chain than Marcus.
Now paint them all black looking like gangster rappers pissed at the whole world, and you’ll have it right.
Yes, it is fact. I work with two young white woman who live with, support, have children by black men. They also help support the illegitimate children the men have with other women. Both men have cheated on these girls a number of times. One, having found that her mate had cheated with one of her friends, asked me why he and her previous black loves were unfaithful. I told her it was their high testosterone and she should find her an Asian man.
I remember going to Northridge when my son was young(in a stroller). Thankfully, I recognized that the “group” forming in the mall was a mob in the making. I grabbed my little boy and hightailed it out. Now, it is torn down, a Menards(I think), Best Buy and Toys R Us are still there. I really hate going to Brown Deer. It is very obvious I am not welcome.
yeah my parents too