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Influx of black renters raises tension in Bay Area
AP via MyWay News ^

Posted on 12/31/2008 5:18:07 AM PST by gjones77

ANTIOCH, Calif. (AP) - As more and more black renters began moving into this mostly white San Francisco Bay Area suburb a few years ago, neighbors started complaining about loud parties, mean pit bulls, blaring car radios, prostitution, drug dealing and muggings of schoolchildren.

In 2006, as the influx reached its peak, the police department formed a special crime-fighting unit to deal with the complaints, and authorities began cracking down on tenants in federally subsidized housing.

Now that police unit is the focus of lawsuits by black families who allege the city of 100,000 is orchestrating a campaign to drive them out.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: bayarea; crime; prop8
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Yeah, anyone else suprised by this?

Allow people on public money to rent homes in expensive areas subsidized by the governement and crime follows.

What really grabs me is that the AP tries to make it sound like a race issue based on the title, as opposed to what it really is, a government handout issue created by socialist ideas.

Couldn't happen to a nicer cith though!

1 posted on 12/31/2008 5:18:07 AM PST by gjones77
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To: gjones77
what it really is, a government handout issue created by socialist ideas
You are right.

And you are right that it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of ultra-leftist schmucks. I bet in that whole community now so eager to "control crime", there isn't a single conservative among them. And if there is, I'm sure he/she knows the risk living in enemy territory.

2 posted on 12/31/2008 5:21:15 AM PST by samtheman
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To: gjones77
I guess it could only be worse for the Bay area if these blacks also happened to be the “N's” (as the gays called them) who voted Yes on Prop 8.

It's a beautiful thing.

3 posted on 12/31/2008 5:21:21 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Abortion has become little more than the New Left's execution of political prisoners.)
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To: gjones77

Think Zebra mussels, think American Chestnut blight, think Black death.


4 posted on 12/31/2008 5:21:29 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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To: samtheman

Maybe that’s the cause of white flight.


5 posted on 12/31/2008 5:21:45 AM PST by Radl (rtr)
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To: gjones77

So the rich white liberals moved ghetto residents into their gated communities and are now surprised that they brought the ghetto with them. Gosh, so am I.


6 posted on 12/31/2008 5:22:43 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: gjones77
As more and more black renters began moving into this mostly white San Francisco Bay Area suburb a few years ago, neighbors started complaining about loud parties, mean pit bulls, blaring car radios, prostitution, drug dealing and muggings of schoolchildren.

Now that police unit is the focus of lawsuits by black families who allege the city of 100,000 is orchestrating a campaign to drive them out.

Cry me a river.

Sorry, I like my safe, quiet neighborhood where I can raise my children without having to worry about them surviving.

I'd want then out as well.

7 posted on 12/31/2008 5:23:08 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gjones77

Apparently, Bay Area lib-tards are also “racist”!


8 posted on 12/31/2008 5:23:51 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: gjones77

C’Mon Libs, Celebrate Diversity!


9 posted on 12/31/2008 5:25:13 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: gjones77
...federally subsidized housing...

Whodathunkit?

10 posted on 12/31/2008 5:25:46 AM PST by M203M4 (Bill Kristol: Piltdown conservative)
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To: metmom

And people wonder why I want acres of land between me and my neighbors. It doesn’t matter how nice of a neighborhood you live in because Ozzy Osbourne or PDiddy can always move next door.

You can pick your friends but you can’t pick your neighbors but you can keep them at a distance.


11 posted on 12/31/2008 5:26:05 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: gjones77

I’ll never forget a story my electrical contractor friend told me. He used to take Section 8 renovation contracts all the time because there were so many of them. As he’s finishing a job in a very nicely, brand new renovated apartment, the tentant slated for that rides his motorcycle into the house and parks it in the living room.


12 posted on 12/31/2008 5:28:32 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: gjones77

Justice!


13 posted on 12/31/2008 5:28:58 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Too right, friend, my wife doens’t understand why I’m willing to commute an hour to get four, five acres of land for our home. The only thing I want to hear from a neighbor is his rooster crowing.


14 posted on 12/31/2008 5:29:59 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: gjones77

I’ve been worried that the government would create this same situation with all the foreclosed homes that sprinkle all of our neighborhoods.


15 posted on 12/31/2008 5:35:40 AM PST by IamConservative (Will Work for Bailout)
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To: gjones77

I don’t understand why they have any grounds for complaint. Shouldn’t the overriding benefit be the influx of “new recruits” from the former prison populace amongst their new neighbors? Picky, picky, picky...


16 posted on 12/31/2008 5:37:10 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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The reason I posted this was that I found it interesting since I’ve seen it first hand years ago in Boston.

I grew up in Roslindale, a town in Boston that was mainly working middle class families.

Then section 8 started moving into the 3 family homes on the street and things went down hill fast, this was in the early 90’s.

Thanks government!


17 posted on 12/31/2008 5:41:43 AM PST by gjones77
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To: gjones77

Not in my backyard! Hah!

Too bad they’re not moving into Diane Feinstein’s neighborhood.

Of course, her neighborhood is private with private cops guarding it.

I used to live in an area like this. The whole neighborhood had been gentrified. Everyone had renovated their homes; we chased out the hookers and the drug dealers; but the Washington Post moaned about how the white folk had destroyed an old black area.

But...we still had several projects in the neighborhood. Those places were the sources of nearly all the crime in our census tract.

I have little sympathy with the Antioch white folk. They talked the talk, now let them walk the walk.


18 posted on 12/31/2008 5:42:39 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: gjones77

Same thing is happening in Washington D.C. on Jan. 20, at the White House!


19 posted on 12/31/2008 5:45:18 AM PST by traditional1 ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery")
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To: gjones77
They use it as a weapon in our county. Dare to incorporate as a city to avoid the usurious tax levels and lack of service? Bang, Section 8 and Crapitat for Humanity for you.
20 posted on 12/31/2008 5:45:21 AM PST by doodad
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To: domenad

We plan on making our land purchase in 09’ and want nothing less than 20 acres.

And my house will be in the middle of the 20 acres!

I grew up in the city, my children will not.


21 posted on 12/31/2008 5:45:25 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: gjones77
"One of the goals of the programs is to de-concentrate poverty," Villarreal said. "There are just some people who don't want to spend public money that way." Tensions like those afflicting Antioch have drawn scholars and law enforcement officials to debate whether crime follows subsidized renters out of the tenements to the suburbs.

Poverty of the soul cannot be solved by moving the person from the environment. You have change the person from the inside. BTW I was a victim of this Section 8 neighbor problem when I lived in Fremont, CA. What was really strange was the white kids who were attracted to the black kids moving in from Oakland. So the white kids completely emulated the blacks in speech, dress and talk. White kids were of course not allowed to say -- well you know the word.

22 posted on 12/31/2008 5:46:21 AM PST by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: Michael Barnes

I love this. Couldn’t happen to a better bunch.


23 posted on 12/31/2008 5:46:43 AM PST by unkus
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To: gjones77

Jon Corzine and his Democrats want to do the same thing in New Jersey. The fight is on and the radio ads against it are on all the time.


24 posted on 12/31/2008 5:47:13 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: MikeWUSAF

Invest in some good fencing, I am told by my 40 acre owning friend - people seem to feel entitled to come on to open property for some reason.


25 posted on 12/31/2008 5:51:44 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Radl

Ya’ think? Nah, that couldn’t possibly be it.


26 posted on 12/31/2008 5:58:06 AM PST by glide625
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To: gjones77

Schadenfreude


27 posted on 12/31/2008 5:58:29 AM PST by saganite
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To: M203M4

Yea, I particularly liked: “Tensions like those afflicting Antioch have drawn scholars and law enforcement officials to debate whether crime follows subsidized renters out of the tenements to the suburbs.” Quickly followed by, “oh, no that can’t be the case”.

So.......how much are they paying scholars and LEO’s to study on the obvious?


28 posted on 12/31/2008 5:59:38 AM PST by glide625
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To: oldironsides

Let’s hope it does not happen in New Jersey. That is the richest state in America. There are some very nice areas in New Jersey. I grew up in Pennsylvania and my brother lived in Princeton for awhile. New Jersey is a pretty nice state except for a few areas.


29 posted on 12/31/2008 6:01:07 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: gjones77

Couldn’t happen to a nicer city.


30 posted on 12/31/2008 6:02:01 AM PST by LiberConservative ("I, you know, can see, you know, upstate, you know, from my house, you know.")
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To: nina0113

“So the rich white liberals moved ghetto residents into their gated communities and are now surprised that they brought the ghetto with them.”

They were thinking more in terms of those nasty middle-class suburbs. The people who live in them need to be exposed to diversity. So Section 8 is good for them. But Antioch is different . . .


31 posted on 12/31/2008 6:03:17 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: domenad

I actually parked my motorcycle in the living room of my apartment one winter (many years ago). I did that because I was tired of coming outside and finding kids playing all over it while their worthless parents either watched, or were nowhere to be found.


32 posted on 12/31/2008 6:04:31 AM PST by Try_Freedom
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To: samtheman
And you are right that it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of ultra-leftist schmucks.

LOL

33 posted on 12/31/2008 6:05:16 AM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: gjones77

“I grew up in Roslindale, a town in Boston that was mainly working middle class families.

“Then section 8 started moving into the 3 family homes on the street and things went down hill fast, this was in the early 90’s.”

This was the way Section 8 was supposed to work. It was supposed to affect lower-middle and middle class communities. It’s advocates actually believe it will help raise the consciousness of the middle class to be exposed to minorities. Of course it doesn’t work out that way.

Section 8 was NOT intended to move inner city folks out to really nice suburbs like Antioch that have enough money to hire police to deal with the problem.


34 posted on 12/31/2008 6:07:29 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Try_Freedom

I can understand that, especially if you don’t have a garage, but I am guessing you WHEELED the bike in. From what I undestand, this guy DROVE it in.


35 posted on 12/31/2008 6:08:49 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: glide625

I should have put that sarcasm notice on the end.


36 posted on 12/31/2008 6:11:44 AM PST by Radl (rtr)
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To: gjones77
Hey these are Zero's main constituents,radical blacks.

Those interested in living peaceably should just do what everyone in every other community where this has happened have done:move.

37 posted on 12/31/2008 6:13:13 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: domenad

You guess correctly. Onto sheets, no less!


38 posted on 12/31/2008 6:17:22 AM PST by Try_Freedom
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To: MikeWUSAF; domenad

.....my wife and I have lived on 24 acres since 1993...our county is 97% white....we have low crime, low taxes, good schools, honest government and a good hospital that’s solvent...we are the people that Saturday Night Live makes fun of.


39 posted on 12/31/2008 6:18:14 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: All

Just so we’re clear here- Antioch has never been a gated-community Liberal enclave. I lived there for 15 years. When I was there, it was a moderate income bedroom community with a partially-contained gang problem. There were bad parts of town, but it was mostly a quiet community with a small-town feel. And, it was about as close to Conservative as the Bay Area gets- possibly excepting places like San Ramon. I used to enjoy going to Old Town for the Fourth of July parade- watching the fire-engine and scout troop displays while quaffing a beer at the Wallace Arms.

I left in 2003, and visited in 2007. I almost didn’t recognize the place. It has *exploded* with people and new construction.

I won’t join some people in dancing on Antioch’s grave. I know too many good people there, and I’m sorry to hear of what’s happening to the old place. I’m also glad I got out when I did.


40 posted on 12/31/2008 6:18:30 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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A feller would think that those well edu-ma-kated liberals in SF would be a little more hip to what black people have endured and welcome them with open arms and also give them the 10% discount on KY.


41 posted on 12/31/2008 6:18:58 AM PST by NeoConfederate
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To: gjones77

42 posted on 12/31/2008 6:21:08 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: ModelBreaker
Section 8 was NOT intended to move inner city folks out to really nice suburbs like Antioch that have enough money to hire police to deal with the problem.

This is voter management, making sure the Democrats win by about 60% uniformly. There's no benefit to winning 100% of the inner city while only 45% of the conservative suburbs. They also need to avoid excessive genetic and cultural inbreeding and mix things up periodically. Without that after a few generations they would be producing essentially zoo animals.

43 posted on 12/31/2008 6:23:23 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: gjones77
"One of the goals of the programs is to de-concentrate poverty," Villarreal said. "There are just some people who don't want to spend public money that way."
So spreading poverty - and crime - around is a good idea?!?
Whatta jackass!

Anywho, in my village we have a Section Eight apartment complex on the South side and yep, all the bad stuff started to happen (hmm.. why is it always the 'South side'??). BUT - our PD nipped that crap in the bud. They opened a 'Satellite PD office' IN THE COMPLEX and staffed it with Narcs and Spec Ops Cops. The crime dropped to almost zero; No drugs, no assaults, no gangs, and best; No Violent Crimes. So for over the past decade they behave themselves and pass time by playing Bassetball in the Park across the street (I have no idea what they do in winter, nor do I care).

This tactic was so successful in Aug of 2008 we were "Recognized as World's Greatest Community"

In the third season of "World's Greatest," the five (5) world's greatest communities will be featured and Woodridge was selected as one of them.
At the same time my old home town of Chicago was becoming Murder City, USA. I hope Mayor Richie Daley chokes on it. He couldn't control his criminal animals but we DID!
44 posted on 12/31/2008 6:25:20 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Reeses

Having spent a fair amount of time in Antioch, I’ll bet a shiny nickel that this is exactly right.


45 posted on 12/31/2008 6:33:20 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: domenad
...the tenant slated for that rides his motorcycle into the house and parks it in the living room.

Hey, leave it on the street and it'll be gone in the morning!

Mrs. JimRed's sister's husband rented to a white trash guy who rebuilt the engine of his motorcycle in the living room of the condo. Ruined the carpets. Low class is low class, regardless of color.

46 posted on 12/31/2008 6:38:46 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: STONEWALLS

I would hate you if I didn’t want to be you. I couldn’t care for 24 acres properly, though. Driving the golf cart around it is fun though.


47 posted on 12/31/2008 6:40:22 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: gjones77

Sixth posting of this same article with the same title in less than 24 hours - - Search can be your friend...:-)!


48 posted on 12/31/2008 6:42:52 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: domenad
I couldn’t care for 24 acres properly, though.

That's the beauty of rural acres. Walking through them occasionally is all the care they ask for.

49 posted on 12/31/2008 6:51:33 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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To: gjones77

Guero Bump.


50 posted on 12/31/2008 6:54:04 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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