Skip to comments.Obama's Kenyan birth evidence to be revealed today, online
Posted on 12/31/2008 6:25:00 AM PST by mlizzy
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A private investigator in Hawaii has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama's father and mother, which indicates they had "one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya." That is the report of Ed Hale of PlainsRadio.com, an Internet radio site which has focused upon the natural born Citizen challenges to Obama's presidential eligibility.
Hale announced this during his evening Internet broadcast on PlainsRadio.com, Tuesday, 12/30 and confirmed it with I.O. in an online interview, later that night. He reported that certified copies of this documentation have been sent from Hawaii by the investigator to himself and four others. Hale is to receive his copy today, Wednesday, 12/31 and plans to post it graphically on the site, during the day. He will also discuss this on a special Internet broadcast, between 6 pm and 10 pm Central Time, tonight. The site streams audio as soon as it is accessed via Web browser.
Link to PlainsRadio and their message forum
Link to PlainsRadio and chat window
The Texan Internet entrepreneur relates he got fed up with the lack of documentation on Obama and decided to discuss ideas with his radio audience. His offer to hire an investigator was met with piecemeal sums of money from listeners to his broadcasts. Hale said some of the information one would expect to find was not available. For example, documentation from Obama's mother Stanley Ann's divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, had vanished. Hale speculates, the reason this forthcoming 1964 divorce decree had not also been "scrubbed" could be that the divorce had been filed not by Obama's mother, but by Barack H. Obama, Sr. Thus, it may have been overlooked by any plumbers for Obama.
Hale does admit to incomplete certainty of his investigator's work until he receives it, partially due to the PI's accent, the telephone connection, and his slight hearing impediment. However, he is very confident of what he will receive during the day. Mark S. McGrew, who writes about Obama's natural born Citizen problems for Pravda.ru, accompanied Hale in his broadcast and also expressed confidence. McGrew had sought publication in numerous American news outlets, but they turned down his articles referring to Obama's apparent ineligibility. Russia's Pravda however, decided his effort to find and report the truth was not to be redlined.
As often related, Barack Obama, due simply to his U.K. citizenship at birth via his Kenyan father, is not a natural born Citizen of America, by definition and the original intent of that term. The Supreme Court has turned down cases which make this point, but according to a September decision in a lower federal court (regarding John McCain's eligibility problem), this would be due to a question of jurisdiction, until Congress is to certify the Electoral College vote on January 8. Further action is to occur, after this date. You may read about this in previous I.O. articles and the sites linked in its sidebar.
Meanwhile, on the question of Obama's place of birth, professionals dealing with documents and forensic evidence have testified that the online "certificate of live birth" provided by Obama is not identifiable evidence of American birth. Now, if Obama's parents' divorce decree states that he was born in Kenya (as his Kenyan grandmother has repeatedly stated), the second epistemological wheel is coming off his vehicle to the White House.
Will Congress pay attention and do its Constitutional duty?
© Arlen Williams
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If true, this is a huge deal!
Bump for later read.
Hale does admit to incomplete certainty of his investigator's work until he receives it, partially due to the PI's accent, the telephone connection, and his slight hearing impediment. However, he is very confident of what he will receive during the day. Mark S. McGrew, who writes about Obama's natural born Citizen problems for Pravda.ru, accompanied Hale in his broadcast and also expressed confidence. McGrew had sought publication in numerous American news outlets, but they turned down his articles referring to Obama's apparent ineligibility. Russia's Pravda however, decided his effort to find and report the truth was not to be redlined."Mr. Hale, what happened to the evidence you promised?"
“Hale does admit to incomplete certainty of his investigator’s work until he receives it, partially due to the PI’s accent, the telephone connection, and his slight hearing impediment...”
This reads almost like a World Weekly News article!
And has the faint aroma of those API releases.
Are you sure this isn’t satire?
Whether this is legit or not, these guys have the right idea about paying a PI.
Big, big, big if.
we should treat this with caution. If this document is somehow tainted, it does not mean the whole case is bad. Planting tainted documents is often used as a ploy.
However, tracking the origin of the docs can be very useful, tainted or otherwise.
Why do you post such silly comments?
Do you think you are being cute? It is not cute; you are distracting from the issue. To make fun — doesn’t do any good.
It just shows how far away from our constitution we’ve come. The fact that even “conservatives” do not seem to care.
If you don’t like the topic stay off the thread.
Explosive if true.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
ahhh Well I thought it was cute.
I think the whole thing should have been kept absolutely secret before the alleged document ( copy of decree) was in Hale’s hands and the other 4 people.
Advertising this stuff before the fact just alerts all sorts of Obama agents to somehow thwart or sabotage.
The legion of Obama operatives has been unprecedented in their ability to get to everybody.
Why do we telegraph information for their advantage?
It is congresses job to uphold the Constitution. If this is in any way viable evidence that Obama is not a natural citizen and they don’t act on it, then any speck of faith and hope that I have left in our government will be lost, and I will be completely convinced that the free country that we all love (well most of us anyway) will never be the same. If Obama takes office not being a natural born citizen, he will essentially be committing a terrorist act.
Divorces are public records, Hillary would have had this a year ago if it were for real.
I went to the link for the internet radio and on their forum someone posted that it was sent “2nd class” mail and won’t arrive until Friday.
This won’t help these guys when/if they can’t post it today. We’ll see.
It doesn't show anything like that. If someone were to prove Obama was born in Kenya, then you'd have a new development and a lot of people would care. But that hasn't happened yet. So this has nothing to do with the constitution.
With something like this that would be earth shattering, why not fax copies of the papers in advance? Or at least scan and email?
Was it confirmed the PI and his ‘heavy accent’ was referring to BHO Jr and not Sr as listed as born in Kenya?
Berg and Keyes had investigators working on their cases and I can’t see how they overlooked filing a FOIA request for these papers
Show me the Money! IOW’s, I’ll believe it when I see it —and maybe not even then...
I don’t chat.............
Saw that, but then i believe another post subsequent said it WOULD be arriving today.
All of us who truly believe Capt. Unicorn is ineligible seem to go around with a big “kick me” sign on our backs and there are plenty of media folks and others who are more than willing to oblige.(Setting us up with bogus stories, dead ends and just plain idiotic rumors designed to make us look like a bunch of morons.)
So, yeah...a little suspicion is normal. That particular paragraph just seemed too weird to me and shouted “Ha-Ha, joke’s on you!”
If that’s not the case, they really need to reevaluate their writing style.
This HUGH AND SERIES!~~~~~~~~~~~
“Will Congress pat attention...?” No they wont. Congress wont pay attention. The Main Street Media wont pay attention and the Courts will turn back every effort to get this adjudicated. This is like a “hot potatoe” that nobody wants to touch for fear of sparking a constitutional crisis. You could post the kenyan Birth Certifiate in Times Square and it would be ignored.
Nothing will come of it. It is too late. He could be from Russia and it wouldn’t matter, and the precedent will have long standing consequences; -those in power aren’t bound by the law. Of course this only applies to Democrats, and Republicans will be dammed forever by Nixon who it does apply to.
And he has a tape of Michelle Obama!
The old saying “Believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear.” is still relevant today. But with CGI, I lower that to “Believe only a quarter of what you see............
I don’t believe you need to file any special requests, divorce records are public domain unless otherwise sealed.
The thinking here is that no one considered looking under Obama Sr’s name, instead scrubbing all records under Stanley Ann’s name.
The reason some of us old timers get tired of this is because, when it comes to these “historic announcements” that “will be released” they are a complete waste of bandwidth. The sources are weak, spotty and suspect. They get some peoples hopes up for no good reason. Just wait until something is actually “revealed”.
LOL! Thats much, huh?
I just wish that Hale had the documents first before announcing publicly.
The PI in Hawaii could have faxed the page that was important directly to the people who payed, or at least gone to the local library or Kinkos and scanned and emailed.
If this turns out not to be true then many people’s hopes are crushed again
Who's to say she doesn't have it?
The One has been stuffing a lot of Clinton cronies into his cabinet. That would be a good bit of leverege for them to influence BHO's decisions.
First someone said on the forum that it was mailed “2nd class” (which is a phrase I didn’t think was used much any more.) then another gave a FedEx tracking # linky.
Snail Mail or FedEx...which is it?!
Besides, if it was REALLY important, overnight the sucker!
Surely someone could cover the dough for that.
Color me skeptical.
“..has uncovered the divorce decree..”
Yeah, because in divorce, everyone always tells the truth. Where exactly did this information become “uncovered” from may we ask? Uncovered from your basement or a master forgerer perhaps?
Seriously, is this a smoking gun? My skeptical senses say no.
If I was working on something like this - I would NEVER broadcast it to anyone until I had it in my own hands. It’s getting tiring hearing these reports - nothing ever comes of it.
“Will Congress pay attention and do its Constitutional duty?”
Uh...No, No Way. The DhimmiRats have been so positively orgasmic since The One captured the popular vote and, hence, the electoral vote, that they can’t see the US Constitution any more clearly than they could before all this.
For one, I have serious doubts that Obama is a Natural born US Citizen within the definition of the Constitution and subsequent legislation. I don’t see any other reason for him to avoid the simple, cheap solution...just release the Birth Certificate; and, show the passport he used when he traveled to Pakistan as a young man.
Instead, he’s spent what has been reported as nearly a million dollars to keep these things out of the public view.
That, alone, smells quite suspicious, to me.