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Column One: The 'realist' fantasy [Palestinian Authority Legalizes Crucifixion]
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/31/2008 | Caroline Glick

Posted on 12/31/2008 9:59:10 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild

Both Iran and its Hamas proxy in Gaza have been busy this Christmas week showing Christendom just what they think of it. But no one seems to have noticed.

On Tuesday, Hamas legislators marked the Christmas season by passing a Shari'a criminal code for the Palestinian Authority. Among other things, it legalizes crucifixion.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: barbarians; christianity; crucifixion; hamas; islam; jihad
I hardly know how to respond to this news. I used to wonder if an entire civilization could collapse in a day -- like the Mayan or the Incan or Rome or Western civilization. It never occurred to me that there are barbarians in existence like this, but I can honestly say, what the heck do I know.
1 posted on 12/31/2008 9:59:10 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

I read this the other day. I am still at a loss for words. It made me feel very sick.


2 posted on 12/31/2008 10:00:39 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I hardly know how to respond to this news.

I do. But since it involves copious amounts of high explosives, napalm, and nerve gas it'll never be implemented.

L

3 posted on 12/31/2008 10:00:47 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

I guess this makes Palis the new ‘crusaders’...so to speak.


4 posted on 12/31/2008 10:03:01 AM PST by tbpiper (Al Gore if the Berney Madoff Global Warming.)
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To: Lurker
Yes, dear-heart. Sadly, that's my first response, too. I feel little better than they with it, though. To be reduced to such a level of despicable and dishonorable behavior makes me about as sick as the headline.
5 posted on 12/31/2008 10:03:30 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: JudyinCanada

I wouldnt want to be their next kidnap victim, thay are probably chafing at the bit to try it out.


6 posted on 12/31/2008 10:04:01 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Among other things, it legalizes crucifixion.

Satan laughs. For the moment.

7 posted on 12/31/2008 10:05:18 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Yeah, these are real nice people.....how does anyone defend these madmen?


8 posted on 12/31/2008 10:05:44 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Incredible.

I would refer to them as dogs, but I wouldn’t want to insult our canine friends.


9 posted on 12/31/2008 10:05:53 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Resist the Obamination!)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

You have GOT to be kidding!

Perhaps if one of their own suffered such a fate, they might rethink that decision. Crucifixion is the cruelest method of torture. Nothing comes close to it... and I mean nothing. Geeze... even Saddam Hussein, Joseph Stalin, and Adolph Hitler did not go that route!


10 posted on 12/31/2008 10:07:11 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I would refer to them as dogs, but I wouldn’t want to insult our canine friends.

Genesis 16:12 (New International Version) 12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

11 posted on 12/31/2008 10:07:47 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: reagan_fanatic

The word vermin comes to mind.


12 posted on 12/31/2008 10:08:13 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Venturer

In all seriousness, imagine them actually going through with this, and it headlining the news. I think it would sent shockwaves throughout the civilized world.

On the other hand, the open-forum beheadings in Saudi Arabia don’t even cause a stir, let alone outrage.


13 posted on 12/31/2008 10:08:29 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Tell the bastards of St. Peter who was crucified upside down because he declared himself unworthy to die in the same manner as the Lord. Tell them unlike themselves, Christians are unafraid of crucifixion.


14 posted on 12/31/2008 10:10:23 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: TCH

Hitler did, from what I’ve read, and being shredded alive in a wood chipper is pretty gruesome, but this was a real gut punch to me.


15 posted on 12/31/2008 10:14:05 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: JudyinCanada

What scares me most is that it wouldn’t make a difference in the rest of the world.


16 posted on 12/31/2008 10:15:21 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
We have some criminals around here, I would not mind having nailed to a board and left to die. It would serve them right.
17 posted on 12/31/2008 10:16:22 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
To be reduced to such a level of despicable and dishonorable behavior makes me about as sick as the headline.

They are dependent on your feeling that way. They exploit our morals in order to impose their immorality in its place. They kill their own women and children by hiding amongst them while killing the women and children of their enemy, which is everybody but them.

They are truly evil. They plot to move peacefully among us until they have a large enough number to cut our throats in our sleep. They are truly Evil flying under the banner of religion.

Ann Coulter had it right immediately after 9/11/01. She said we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert the rest to Christianity.

There is no peaceful solution with fanatics. They raise Holy Hell because someone draws a picture of Mohammed yet they cheerfully legalize crucifixion to insult Christians and all others.

They are Evil. We must destroy them rather than trying to reason with them. They are unreasonable and they are liars. They turn the truth on its head.

They are just like today's Democrats.

18 posted on 12/31/2008 10:20:55 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mark was here
Mark, I've never hated ANYone that much — not even those who made our lives a living hell for a while. We found that perseverance and success is the best revenge — and we handed that back, without rancor or unforgiveness, to those folks with interest.
19 posted on 12/31/2008 10:21:50 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: JudyinCanada

“On the other hand, the open-forum beheadings in Saudi Arabia don’t even cause a stir, let alone outrage.”

Precisely. I was thinking, “imagine them actually going through with this, and it headlining the news.” Then I remembered the video I saw of some folks getting stoned in Iran and pictures I saw of folks hanging in public squares in Gaza and the little media coverage it got.

Everyone, even the media, knows the Muslims are capable of doing this type of stuff.


20 posted on 12/31/2008 10:30:17 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
On Tuesday, Hamas legislators marked the Christmas season by passing a Shari'a criminal code for the Palestinian Authority.

For the entire Palestinian Authority or just for Gaza?

21 posted on 12/31/2008 10:36:23 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: tbpiper
"I guess this makes Palis the new ‘crusaders’...so to speak."

...or more accurately, considering their plans for crucifixions, the New Romans. ;-)


22 posted on 12/31/2008 10:37:37 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I'm taking the article at face value in that it said further down that the Palestinian Authority passed the law, but the article mentioned Hamas and Gaza.

Would it necessarily make a big difference?

23 posted on 12/31/2008 10:53:28 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: JudyinCanada
In all seriousness, imagine them actually going through with this, and it headlining the news. I think it would sent shockwaves throughout the civilized world.

No it wouldn't, because the media would censor the details. They do it all the time. How many have carried the details of what was done to the Jewish victims in Mumbai? I mean, before they were killed.

24 posted on 12/31/2008 11:02:56 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

True - I looked at the pics last night (much to my horror) and thought the very same thing....why are we not hearing about THIS?


25 posted on 12/31/2008 11:05:07 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

I’ve come to the conclusion that if a white or Jewish person is the victim of a hate crime, the media will do all it can to mask it.


26 posted on 12/31/2008 11:06:48 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Guess we need to legalize panties on the head.

Nah, too inhumane ....

27 posted on 12/31/2008 11:10:58 AM PST by sphinx
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To: A_perfect_lady

I can see why you think that. I would throw the Christian onto that list as well. Seems to me it is open season on both Jews and Christians, depending on which area of the world one is in.

I believe the media is MUCH more evil than most think.


28 posted on 12/31/2008 11:11:34 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Well, they can probably supply the two thieves. I wonder about the other guy, though.


29 posted on 12/31/2008 11:12:41 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: JudyinCanada

Agreed.


30 posted on 12/31/2008 11:16:31 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (History repeats itself because human nature is static.)
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To: sphinx
Sort’uv reduces that act of sophistry to the realm of the ridiculous, doesn't it?
31 posted on 12/31/2008 11:20:34 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Open the door on medieval, scum eaters, and you’ve got a half-planet full of unlimited Crusade on the other side ready to chew your Mecca-stained faces right off.


32 posted on 12/31/2008 11:34:18 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: TonyStark

I HOPE we can count on a half-planet’s support. From the lack of reaction to the base and inhuman treatment heretofore leaked out in drips and drabs, my assessment is that this sort of provocation has managed a collective, somewhat stifled yawn by the other half of the world.


33 posted on 12/31/2008 11:45:10 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

There was a service today for a suburban Detroit cop who was shot in the head by a 16 year old thug he thought he was taking home. Yeah, nail the thug, nail him now.


34 posted on 12/31/2008 11:53:15 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Venturer

Coordinator: Crucifixion?
Mr. Cheeky: Ah, no. Freedom.
Coordinator: What?
Mr. Cheeky: Eh, freedom for me. They said I hadn’t done anything, so I can go and live on an island somewhere.
Coordinator: Oh I say, that’s very nice. Well, off you go then.
Mr. Cheeky: No, I’m just pulling your leg, it’s crucifixion really!
Coordinator: [laughing] Oh, I see, very good. Well...
Mr. Cheeky: Yes I know, out the door, one cross each, line on the left.


35 posted on 12/31/2008 11:55:46 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Mark was here
How tragic. I assume the police officer had family and what a horrible thing to have happen at any time of the year, but this will be hard from now on.

I hope the justice system is sufficient to remove the 16 year-old from any further liberty to make a mistake. In our close to home situation, we knew both the officer and the killer. The killer was 16 or 17 and he will be facing a lethal injection.

36 posted on 12/31/2008 11:57:14 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I HOPE we can count on a half-planet’s support. From the lack of reaction to the base and inhuman treatment heretofore leaked out in drips and drabs, my assessment is that this sort of provocation has managed a collective, somewhat stifled yawn by the other half of the world.

My first point would be to take heart that the western world tends to do nothing, right up to the point that doing nothing is no longer an option. Then it goes berserk.

My second point would be that we don't need to count on anyone else. Each of us can personally commit to bringing Hell to these people, individually, personally, and inevitably. The rest of the planet's cooperation be damned. Lead, follow, or get out of the way, but *I* am going through regardless.

37 posted on 12/31/2008 11:59:07 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: TonyStark
Hear, hear! I applaud your courage and Churchillian bravado. When Sir Winston's daughter-in-law asked him what a poor girl such as herself could do if overrun by the Germans, he replied, “Well, you can run to the kitchen and grab a butcher knife and take one with you as you go.”
38 posted on 12/31/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Hear, hear! I applaud your courage and Churchillian bravado. When Sir Winston's daughter-in-law asked him what a poor girl such as herself could do if overrun by the Germans, he replied, “Well, you can run to the kitchen and grab a butcher knife and take one with you as you go.”

Yes indeed. It is a bloody awful place to have to come to mentally, especially when one's entire life has been lived in, around, and through peaceful interaction with his fellow man in civilized western society. But we are facing *things* that look human, but are not. They walk and talk and drive cars like us, but they have nothing we would consider a "soul" to appeal to on issues of mercy, or empathy, or decency. And these homo-scorpions will torture us to death, tear our children apart limb from limb for sport, and throw humanity back to a reptilian existence if they are not completely eliminated, their infant progeny sterilized, and the culture utterly erased from the mind of Man.

I regret having to interact with other beings, let alone people, on this level, but I did not choose this fight nor these means. They did. And by God, I am committed to the harvest, because as they have sewn, so shall they reap.

39 posted on 12/31/2008 12:29:24 PM PST by TonyStark
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To: TonyStark
I'm just musing out loud, but when I was younger and very much engaged in daily bible study, the part I had the MOST difficulty with was the old testament wherein God instructed the Israelites to kill every living inhabitant — men, women and children down to the chickens, goats and sheep. I could not accept the God of Love I knew so personally and intimately could have asked such a thing of anyone. I'm serious that it grieved me DEEPLY. I had to consciously refuse to think of those scriptures and threw myself the sop that there were some things beyond my ability to know.

I'd like to make a public apology to Him today. I get it now. I really get it. I'm sorry I had such uncharitable thoughts toward His request.

40 posted on 12/31/2008 12:37:32 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
the part I had the MOST difficulty with was the old testament wherein God instructed the Israelites to kill every living inhabitant — men, women and children down to the chickens, goats and sheep.

Sister, I know *precisely* what you mean, and have felt the same thing. I thought that phase of humanity, which was so reprobate and retrograde that nothing could save it, was a thing done away with via global floods and Old Testament swordsmanship. How unfortunate for us that it is still with us, squatting atop oil fields, studying how to kill in madrases, and pretending to be a government in the "Palestinian" areas.

I wish it a speedy, humiliating, and exceptionally public demise so grand that our heirs will hear stories of it and scoff at them as "too grandiose and horrible to be believed".

41 posted on 12/31/2008 12:54:45 PM PST by TonyStark
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To: All

Happy New Year’s to all of you. God’s richest blessings and abundant protection and provision to all of you in the new year. God keep me and thee until we meet again.

XXOOs

C.G.


42 posted on 12/31/2008 12:57:57 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I would call these people animals, but that would insult animals like this:


43 posted on 12/31/2008 10:06:48 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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