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Why Arabs Believe In Force Fields (Interesting!)
Strategy Page ^ | December 26, 2008

Posted on 01/02/2009 12:07:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Very interesting read. Thanks for the link.

Observation: In their embracing of illogical superstition the "inshallah" Arabs share a commonality with ecotards and other Western leftists.

241 posted on 01/20/2009 3:31:05 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: muawiyah
I was googling the Sumerians and got this

It says "Well, perhaps that's not quite true. There is new and growing evidence that Sumer was a colony of the Dravidian civilization centered in the Indus Valley in modern-day Pakistan. Located in a vast area called Sind, over seventy cities have been discovered, including Mohenjo-daro and Harappa. This Dravidian civilization was in full swing by 4000 B.C.E. Nobody knows how old these cities might be because the lowest (oldest) levels are under the level of the current water table. " --> something I had never heard of before
242 posted on 01/20/2009 8:00:25 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: Cronos
Now you see the problem ~ we know the Sumerian who first arrived "as Sumerians" raised and followed herds. At the same time they had a technological base that indicated they'd come from an area where things were more settled and developed.

Until recently there was little archaeological evidence that indicated a higher predecessor civilization to the East, so everybody's been looking to the West for that source. They have found some of it in Ukraine ~ ancient townsites with dates older than anything anywhere for example, but no cities, and absent some of the technology found further East.

If you do a bit more digging you'll find a lot more than those 70 "cities" mentioned, and they'll be stretched from Western Iran to Indo-China.

During the Ice Age, which is several thousand years further in the past (Ice Age <-->13,000 BC <-->Sumer at 4,000 BC), this region was temperate. Lots of stuff could have been going on in the coastal margins which are now under water. Sundaland, which comprises SE Asia and Indonesia, Malaysia, etc., is, today, mostly underwater, and whatever happened there is unreachable today. We do know that people in Japan could make ceramics as early as 20,000 years ago, and that's definitely Ice Age stuff.

Many students of the foundations of civilization think it started in Sundaland. Many Indian scholars are looking at the Sind. Iranians are all fired up thinking they may presently have one of the oldest cities. I'm waiting to see them come up with something in writing though.

One of the more exciting discoveries was the finding that the Sa'ami languages are probably mis-classed as Finno-Ughric (in the Uralic-Altaic group), but are actually Ice Age languages with a relationship to the Dravidian languages ~ and that Sumerian itself was a Dravidian cognate. One American Indian language spoken in California was also found to be associated with this subgroup.

We now understand how that could have happened.

Obviously ethnotype and language take different pathways ~ but a Dravidian culture that could extend itself to the Euphrates could as easily have penetrated the Scandinavian peninsula.

243 posted on 01/20/2009 8:39:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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They have found some of it in Ukraine ~ ancient townsites with dates older than anything anywhere for example

Links???
244 posted on 01/20/2009 9:24:28 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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The link also does validly posit that any real knowledge could also have been wiped aside by religious prejudice.


245 posted on 01/20/2009 9:25:56 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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