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Hollywood starts '09 with little to celebrate (Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 2, 2009 | Claudia Eller and Richard Verrier

Posted on 01/02/2009 5:11:21 AM PST by abb

There is no Hollywood ending in sight in 2009 for the entertainment industry, which along with the rest of the nation is experiencing its worst economic slump in decades.

The fallout from declining local TV ad revenue, weakening DVD sales and diminishing sources of film financing will continue to pound Los Angeles' signature industry, which employs more than 200,000 people and pumps an estimated $20 billion to $30 billion into the local economy.

Many expect that will trigger further layoffs at the studios, networks, independent production outfits and other media companies on top of the thousands of job losses that have already occurred in recent months. Industry executives contend that the steep downturn will force Hollywood to fundamentally change the way it does business.

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This is occurring against a backdrop of declining DVD sales, which have propped up studio profits for years. Consumer spending on DVDs, already slowing, is believed to have dropped about 5% to 7% in 2008, according to Adams Media Research, which projects a similar decline for this year. The slowdown in DVD sales reflects the maturity of the business, which began to slow in 2005, but is now exacerbated by a drop in overall consumer spending that began a few months ago, said Tom Adams, president of the research firm.

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Nonetheless, Fithian acknowledged that if the recession dragged on, it could affect moviegoing at a time when consumers are getting more of their entertainment at home with their big-screen TVs, video games and the Internet. A recent study by market research firm Parks Associates found that nearly 66% of U.S. consumers altered their spending habits in the fourth quarter of 2008 as a result of the bad economy.

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1 posted on 01/02/2009 5:11:21 AM PST by abb
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To: 04-Bravo; aimhigh; andyandval; Arizona Carolyn; backhoe; Bahbah; bert; bilhosty; Caipirabob; ...

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2 posted on 01/02/2009 5:11:53 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://recoveringjournalist.typepad.com/recovering_journalist/
Unhappy New(s) Year

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003926349
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3 posted on 01/02/2009 5:13:26 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
When morons like Sean Penn, Matt Damon, and Ben Afleck are making $20 million for 6 months of work, then indeed, the market needs to correct itself and flick those fleas to the curb.
4 posted on 01/02/2009 5:15:49 AM PST by avacado
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To: abb

Why not make a movie about Obama?

Bush and the Republicans screw up everything in the world, and then Obama the Magic... I mean, Obama comes and gets elected and reverses global warming and gives money to all the downtrodden of the world which is, after all, what they really need.

Oprah could finance it. No downside!


5 posted on 01/02/2009 5:17:07 AM PST by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: Steely Tom
Why not make a movie about Obama?

I had heard Will Smith was interested in making an Obama film. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/entertainment/Barack-Obama-Starring-Will-Smith.html

6 posted on 01/02/2009 5:22:33 AM PST by Saint Reagan
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To: abb

How about creating entertaining movies rather than left wing propaganda drivel.

We created a drinking game where we watch these movies and drink everytime there is a ‘hidden’ liberal message. On New Years Eve we rented 4 movies and were blastered half-way through the 2nd one!!!!!


7 posted on 01/02/2009 5:24:44 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Saint Reagan
I had heard Will Smith was interested in making an Obama film.

There ya go! Will Smith! Obama! No brainer! It'll be a monster!

Better make it fast, though.

8 posted on 01/02/2009 5:25:44 AM PST by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: abb

Maybe now, studios will stop making anti American crap that no one sees. One other question, Will the Academy Award nominees be seen by more than 1000 people?


9 posted on 01/02/2009 5:26:48 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: abb
Industry executives contend that the steep downturn will force Hollywood to fundamentally change the way it does business.

Do they mean by not producing crappy movies w/ crappy actors?

10 posted on 01/02/2009 5:29:04 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Just Registered With the Conservative Party...RINO's can kiss my......)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
How about creating entertaining movies rather than left wing propaganda drivel.

Bingo! During the "great" depression, the standard escape was the movies, they were cheap at the time and usually had a great story or some uplifting message. Now cowboys hump and the bad guy wins. I read the news or crochet rather than go to the movies.

11 posted on 01/02/2009 5:30:32 AM PST by FrogMom (Lord, help us all!)
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To: abb

When woll Hollywood ask for a bailout? Are they “too big to fail”?


12 posted on 01/02/2009 5:30:36 AM PST by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: avacado

Milk


13 posted on 01/02/2009 5:30:47 AM PST by onedoug
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To: abb
Hollywood purged itself of it's greatest Conservative minds who are the reason it advanced to it's highest level.

It was Conservative principles that fostered and maintained American morale. When that began to deteriorate, America started it's slide into the septic tank.

With all moral and Conservative guidance gone and with the current leadership in place, they will go deeper into the abyss. They now reap what they have sown.

And their movies are complete worthless trash. No wonder.

14 posted on 01/02/2009 5:34:35 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go?)
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To: Steely Tom

The final year of “The West Wing” was all about a minority democrat beating a western state RINO for President.


15 posted on 01/02/2009 5:35:08 AM PST by AU72
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To: avacado
"If you have good movies, people tend to come even during down economic times," said John Fithian, president of the trade group National Assn. of Theatre Owners. Fithian said that in 2005, when the economy was booming, "we had the worst year we've had in decades because the movies were terrible."

You mentioned "morons like Sean Penn, Matt Damon, and Ben Afleck making $20 million for 6 months of work." That's a big problem, and also all the 'R' rated movies being made.

High School Musical 3 is 'G' rated and made a fortune at the box office.

16 posted on 01/02/2009 5:37:34 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: abb

Here’s another thought: quit making crappy remakes of films that don’t need to be remade. It’s bad enough that they’re remaking them to begin with, but they feel the need to add their PC leftist twist to the plots. Personally, I’ll stick with the originals.


17 posted on 01/02/2009 5:37:57 AM PST by Kellykoop (All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people.)
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To: abb

I have not watched ABC, NBC or CBS or been to a movie in years. Why...because they do not produce what I enjoy watching. The entertainment industry is the only industry that does not seem to understand that they have to produce what people want to buy in order to be profitable.

I remember an interview with Clint Eastwood where he actually said something like..many of his pictures did not make money but that was okay because he made movies “he” enjoyed and liked to make.


18 posted on 01/02/2009 5:38:11 AM PST by when the time is right
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To: avacado

“flick those fleas to the curb”
pure poetry...


19 posted on 01/02/2009 5:38:37 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("One was drawing funny faces, but his own was grave"--Richard Hughes, A High Wind in Jamaica)
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To: Saint Reagan
I had heard Will Smith was interested in making an Obama film.

For much of 2008, it looked like Obama - or at least the DNC's Ministry of Propaganda - was making a Will Smith film.

Mr. niteowl77

20 posted on 01/02/2009 5:45:52 AM PST by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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To: when the time is right
Most every home in America now has it's own theater. With that going for them, if they were making movies WE want to watch, instead of what THEY want us to watch, they would be bigger than the G.D.P..

The British film makers are now leading by the way, they make films like Lord of The Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, and other exciting action films without all the PC BS, or Leftist propaganda. They are blowing Hollywood away.

So, let's just shut up and let the Brits do what they are doing best. Then we can permanently say good riddance to Oliver Stone, Spike Lee, George Clooney and their ilk.

21 posted on 01/02/2009 5:48:01 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go?)
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To: Saint Reagan
I had heard Will Smith was interested in making an Obama film.

Will Smith should stick to films about killing aliens and starring in sitcoms featuring jug-eared princes.
22 posted on 01/02/2009 5:48:33 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Resist the Obamination!)
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To: niteowl77
For much of 2008, it looked like Obama - or at least the DNC's Ministry of Propaganda - was making a Will Smith film.

ROFLMAO!! Spot on! We've always heard that the Drive-By Media and Hollywood were the PR arm of the Democrat party. I think it's the other way 'round. The Democrat party is the political action wing of the Media, Hollywood and Academia.

23 posted on 01/02/2009 5:48:36 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: avacado

Why not just read Karl Marx in the original, rather than be spoon fed by idiots who can’t grasp that he was wrong?


24 posted on 01/02/2009 5:55:13 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: abb

May the Hollywood liberals take “big hits” in their pocketbooks this year.

They gave away their money to Democrats last year and hopefully lost some to Bernie Madoff, too.

May they keep on losing in 2009.


25 posted on 01/02/2009 5:59:42 AM PST by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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To: abb

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/01/02/ap5874116.html
Ahead of the Bell: Starwood may gain by Zell stake


26 posted on 01/02/2009 6:05:21 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb; All
While most movies done in 2008 were pure crap, there were some gems.

I absolutely loved WALL-E. My family and I bought the DVD as soon as it came out, and my little boy watches it every day. I have enjoyed everything that PIXAR has made (although I have not seen Ratatouille or Meet the Robinsons.) Pixar's productions present a good message to the kids (the folly of being superficial, humility, good triumphing over evil, admitting when one is wrong, standing to one's principles, and overcoming adversity by making an honest effort instead of making excuses).

Not everything that comes from England leads the way. The latest James Bond flick is a piece of PC, America-hating sh*t.

Overall, the death of Hollywood would not break my heart at all. But save the good eggs before throwing out the bad.

27 posted on 01/02/2009 6:12:17 AM PST by 60Gunner (ALL bleeding stops... eventually.)
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To: 60Gunner
But save the good eggs before throwing out the bad.

Seldom do I watch the newer Hollywood stuff. Either TCM or AMC movies are all I bother with.

28 posted on 01/02/2009 6:15:27 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I’m in the mood for a bender, which four were they?


29 posted on 01/02/2009 6:18:57 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: abb

Hollywood should try making movies that are original, clever and patriotic instead of making endless sequels (how many times do I need to see “Batman”?), politically correct drivel and films featuring constant profanity, “action”, sex and gross out humor and violence.


30 posted on 01/02/2009 6:21:15 AM PST by LuxAerterna
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To: IYAS9YAS
I’m in the mood for a bender, which four were they?

Pick any movie from the last 10 or 15 years. Your odds are 5:1 that it will have a hidden - or blatant - liberal message and will serve your purpose.

31 posted on 01/02/2009 6:22:10 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/business/stories.nsf/developmenteconomy/story/BCA23360438F971586257531000CFE5C?OpenDocument
Lee Enterprises warned by NYSE it may be delisted


32 posted on 01/02/2009 6:35:39 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
Two suggestions for them:

1. Make movies people actually would want to see, not “films”

2. Have the theaters hire people that can keep the projector in focus

33 posted on 01/02/2009 6:42:03 AM PST by sticker
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To: abb

Marty Kaplan-Director of the Annenburg School of Communication:”if your still spending $100mill on pictures that have little chance of being hits,your in a business that is inherently nuts.”I agree.I enjoy war movies and westerns,but why would i pay good money to watch a movie where american military personell are portrayed as sadistic killers and the terrorists are victims?Or how bout a “cowboy” movie where the main characters are homosexuals?Why does hwood crank out movies(money losers)no one wants to see?I come up with two possibilities:1)if H-wood inundates us with anti-american films long enough we’ll eventually buy into their anti-US propaganda or 2)the directors,producers,actors,etc,etc,... sincerely believe their movies are an honest portrayal of reality.


34 posted on 01/02/2009 6:50:52 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: Le Chien Rouge

You are 100% right in that statement.

It makes me sick to start watching a TV show and halfway through it the leftist message comes over, and I turn it off.

Movies are even worse.


35 posted on 01/02/2009 6:59:01 AM PST by Venturer
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To: supremedoctrine

Thank’ya! ;-)


36 posted on 01/02/2009 7:00:01 AM PST by avacado
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To: IYAS9YAS

The Traitor w/ Done Cheadle
Definite, Maybe w/ Ryan Reynolds, Rachel Weiz

never got to the last two——to drunk from the beer


37 posted on 01/02/2009 7:27:31 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge
never got to the last two——to drunk from the beer

Ha. Well, those are two I said I'd never see. I'll have to get my drinking game going in some other way.

38 posted on 01/02/2009 7:34:38 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: abb
Standard story line of the modern movie:

Bedroom scene (no one over 30 years old)
An other than Straight encounter (I do not use the “g” word)
Multiple murders (lots of blood)
Car chase with lots of stupid Cop crashes
Funeral in the rain
Lots of trash talk (be sure to use the “f” word much
Hostage taking
You get my point.

39 posted on 01/02/2009 7:39:53 AM PST by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Will Smith should stick to films about killing aliens and starring in sitcoms featuring jug-eared princes.

Obama IS a jug-eared prince.

40 posted on 01/02/2009 7:58:21 AM PST by Free State Four
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To: 60Gunner
A large portion of my personal movies are British made....a lot of BBC Drama, etc.

I even have a recently released 12 part British series (Against the Wind..made in 1978) about the colonization of Australia....it is spot on excellent.

But hard times are hitting the British film colony too...

41 posted on 01/02/2009 8:16:29 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Actually my #41 should have been directed to you :)


42 posted on 01/02/2009 8:17:37 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: abb

Hollywood has so little talent the only people holding up Hollywood are teenage boys ( yeah they’ll buy sex) and overseas monsters who feed on violence. Maybe 10 more awards shows will keep them from noticing.


43 posted on 01/02/2009 8:22:36 AM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: GOPJ

Watch the money. Always follow the advertising, the financing and so forth. Since I’ve been doing these threads, I’ve tried to find articles about the money flow. None of these dinosaurs can live without food, and advertising revenues and box office revenues is what feeds them.


44 posted on 01/02/2009 8:27:02 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

I can just smell something like this coming. The liberal media print will cease to exist. Then, there will be a crisis so compelling that even liberals will be shocked. And then, they will complain that they were prevented from doing their public watchdog duties because the they went bankrupt.


45 posted on 01/02/2009 8:32:07 AM PST by Enterprise (No Presidency for illegal aliens from Kenya.)
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To: abb

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/01/02/opinion/parker/ze2398866d16849c8882575300079bf6d.txt
PARKER: Don’t read ‘em —— and weep

http://poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=13754
GateHouse discontinue 401K matching program

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/31/BUR51525GH.DTL
AsianWeek to cease print publication Friday


46 posted on 01/02/2009 10:07:25 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://iowaindependent.com/10140/gannett-register-cuts-extend-into-eastern-iowa
Gannett, Register cuts extend into eastern Iowa


47 posted on 01/02/2009 10:28:39 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Hugin

Hey Hollywood! Listen up! Make movies people in the USA want to see! Make films that depict Jesus Christ as savior, Make sure American Heroes are shown as heroes (yes with feet of clay—but heroes anyway). Make movies from classic works rather than comic books. Make movies with a good STORY and not all special effects. Make movies with good acting and not a lot of sex. Make comedy’s without toilet humor.
Some ideas I give away for free! Script writers steal what you want.
1. A movie about Lt Cussing sinking the CSS Albamarle in the Civil War (he won the metal of honor for this act).
2. A movie on the voyage of the Rebel raider CSS Alabama (Ted Turner—you would love this project).
3. A movie about Cherokee Indians in the Civil War.
4. A movie about Mack Sennett the silent movie director who invented the Keystone Kops.
5. A Movie on the Perry Mason and his cases.
6. A movie on Andy Jackson and his term in Office as President of the USA.
7. A movie on Edgar Rice Burroughs Mars books.
8. A comedy re-make of Hellsapoppin


48 posted on 01/02/2009 11:16:49 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: abb

Follow tax benefits too.


49 posted on 01/02/2009 12:56:12 PM PST by GOPJ (GM's market value is a third of Bed, Bath and Beyond. Why is GM "too big to fail"? Steyn)
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To: when the time is right
I remember an interview with Clint Eastwood where he actually said something like..many of his pictures did not make money but that was okay because he made movies “he” enjoyed and liked to make.

He could say that because unlike almost everyone else in the movie industry, Eastwood is well-known for keeping production costs as low as possible. Remember the movie Mystic River with its all-star cast? Eastwood completed the movie in a amazingly short period and everyone involved with the production were amazed how fast and efficiently he worked on the movie.

50 posted on 01/02/2009 2:56:45 PM PST by RayChuang88
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