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Report Says Lotus Will Build a Battery-Powered Car (Goodbye Tesla?)
www.edmunds.com ^ | 01-02-2009 | Staff

Posted on 01/02/2009 12:16:25 PM PST by Red Badger

HETHEL, England — British sports car maker Lotus will build a battery-powered performance car, according to a Thursday report in the Financial Times.

The technology used in the Lotus car will be similar to that in the Chevrolet Volt, with a fuel-powered range extender that works after the battery charge has depleted. The car is reportedly expected to achieve 300 to 400 miles on a single tank of gas.

The Financial Times quoted chief executive Michael Kimberley as saying: "Don't be surprised to see an electric Lotus shortly. We are working on the technologies that will go behind it."

Lotus already has some experience with electric cars. The company currently builds bodies for the Tesla Roadster, which is based on the Lotus Elise, and has also consulted with Chrysler on a Dodge electric vehicle.

The Lotus electric will likely compete with the Tesla Roadster and the Fisker Karma. Fisker Automotive has said its Karma plug-in hybrid will go on sale in the fourth quarter of 2009.

Inside Line says: Another boost for alternative technologies from performance cars. — Eric Tingwall, Correspondent


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: altenergy; altfuel; auto; automakers; battery; electriccar; energy; lotus; transportation

1 posted on 01/02/2009 12:16:26 PM PST by Red Badger
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To: sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; sausageseller; ...

Electric Lotus Ping!...........


2 posted on 01/02/2009 12:17:06 PM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Red Badger

chinese are alredy doing it

well whatever passes for a car but still

A Plug-In Hybrid Goes on Sale, in China

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/a-plug-in-hybrid-goes-on-sale-in-china/


3 posted on 01/02/2009 12:17:35 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Red Badger

For those of you keeping score, BYD Auto has beaten General Motors and Toyota in bringing a plug-in hybrid to market. The Chevrolet Volt goes on sale at the end of 2010. Toyota is planning a plug-in hybrid, also for 2010.


4 posted on 01/02/2009 12:18:40 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Red Badger
Power has to come from somewhere. We do not have an electrical infrastructure/generating capacity to allow widespread use of plug-in or battery-powered cars.

If people (Democrats) want to start talking about building a lot of nuclear power plants, then I'm willing to talk about electric cars. Until then, these cars are boutique novelties.

5 posted on 01/02/2009 12:20:27 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Flavius

THAT don't look anywhere near as good as :

6 posted on 01/02/2009 12:21:21 PM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Red Badger

My 5 cyllander pick up truck gets 300 miles a tank now, and I get to go off road (4 wheel drive), and carry things in the bed.

Doesn’t sound very promising, to me.


7 posted on 01/02/2009 12:23:14 PM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: Red Badger

And ... As long as they can keep the UAW away from it ... they might even become ... PROFITABLE!!


8 posted on 01/02/2009 12:24:18 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's "1984" .. to Conservatives- a WARNING, to Liberals - a TEXTBOOK)
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To: Flavius

The BYD could not survive a head on collision with a kitten much less another vehicle.


9 posted on 01/02/2009 12:24:19 PM PST by DevNet
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To: Flavius

The Chinese have built an electric car with a 60 mile range. Those have existed for a very long time. What we’re talking about is a USEFUL car.


10 posted on 01/02/2009 12:24:33 PM PST by dangus
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To: Red Badger

Goodbye Tesla. Goodbye Lotus.


11 posted on 01/02/2009 12:24:39 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Ro_Thunder

What truck has 5 cylinder engine?.............


12 posted on 01/02/2009 12:24:39 PM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Ro_Thunder

Five cylinder truck? Who makes (made) it?


13 posted on 01/02/2009 12:25:18 PM PST by reg45
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To: Red Badger

And Lotus, along with the rest of the British auto industry, has long been at the forefront of automotive quality......


14 posted on 01/02/2009 12:25:52 PM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: conservativeharleyguy

And dental technology............


15 posted on 01/02/2009 12:27:32 PM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: reg45

He might have a Volvo engine...........


16 posted on 01/02/2009 12:28:08 PM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: reg45

Chevy sells one. Its an inline 5, obviously.


17 posted on 01/02/2009 12:28:42 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Red Badger

I googled “i5 engine” and apparently GM makes one.


18 posted on 01/02/2009 12:29:53 PM PST by reg45
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To: reg45

A Chevy Colorado I drove had it. Didn’t believe it at first, thought the guy trying to sell it was off his rocker. I thought the outside of the truck looked great but the interior of the truck was cheap as hell.


19 posted on 01/02/2009 12:30:39 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Thanks, I actually learned something new from that.


20 posted on 01/02/2009 12:32:40 PM PST by reg45
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To: gwilhelm56

For the person selling $10,000 battery should help gas prices to go up and up and up.


21 posted on 01/02/2009 12:34:19 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: reg45
The five doesn't seem to have all that much better mileage than the V-6.
22 posted on 01/02/2009 12:34:34 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Red Badger

Good for Lotus. Talk to me when they come out with a new Esprit.


23 posted on 01/02/2009 12:36:41 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: Red Badger

Sales data says that ....NOBODY buys these things!!!!

the only way to make a Profit is
Legislate mandatory purchases.....

and that is not too far off.....


24 posted on 01/02/2009 12:37:57 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I guess the reason they went with an I5 is that is is shorter than an I6.


25 posted on 01/02/2009 12:39:09 PM PST by reg45
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To: reg45

I was hoping for all new V-5...


26 posted on 01/02/2009 12:53:19 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Red Badger

Brit Elan!

There is a flash of a spark in those auto manufacturing ashes


27 posted on 01/02/2009 12:56:29 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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To: Red Badger

My sprinter van has a Mercedes 5 cylinder diesel, has a 600 mile range and gets 23 mpg unless I go only 60 and then it gets 25.


28 posted on 01/02/2009 12:59:11 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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To: Red Badger; All
I seriously doubt that the Chinese EREV, the so called BYD vehicle will do what they say it will.

That said the EREV is really the only viable concept. Range Anxiety is the real problem with the All Electric.

All the major manufacturers are pursuing this concept.

I still think the Chevy Volt will be the first practical vehicle. Toyota is right on their heels however. The reason it is taking what seems like a long time for the volt to come to marker is that it's important to set up all the dealerships with proper facilities to handle the Volt. They need to train mechanics to service what will be a very different type of vehicle. It's a whole different infrastructure. The Volt will probably be the first true production plug in hybrid (or EREV is you prefer).
29 posted on 01/02/2009 1:00:09 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Red Badger
Old stuff....

Barbie had this years ago!

30 posted on 01/02/2009 1:00:13 PM PST by jaz.357 (I binge with the lunatic fringe)
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To: Red Badger

Surely Colin Chapman is rolling over in his grave. Converting an Elise to hybrid power will surely subtract large amounts of lightness...


31 posted on 01/02/2009 1:10:50 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Some people like cupcakes better. I, for one, care less for them.)
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To: Red Badger
As the article hints, Lotus is working with Chrysler on the Dodge EV based on the Lotus Europa.


32 posted on 01/02/2009 1:39:06 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Red Badger

The Tesla went broke for the huge price tag. Only movie stars and sports figures could afford one as a second toy car. Many people would have bought one but they went for $70k- $100k. Get it under $30k and you will have a winner. The Tesla was a neck popper as well as a neck turner. I just don’t think people will pay for the recharge hassle. When you can go 300+ miles, stop for 10 minutes and go for another 300+ miles, it’s hard to compete with a car that goes 250 miles and gets worse as it ages and has to charge for hours to go again.


33 posted on 01/02/2009 1:53:18 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Yo-Yo

That is not a Europa. The front is different and from what I can see the back is different too. Take it from a former Europa owner, that’s not a Europa.

SF


34 posted on 01/02/2009 1:58:47 PM PST by SwampFoxOfVa
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To: Red Badger

I once owned a Lotus. It drove like a scalded dog and was the best handling car on the planet. Unfortunately, it had a Lucas electrical system which often turned it into a stunning parking lot ornament. Electricity and Lotus don’t mix very well in my experience.


35 posted on 01/02/2009 2:50:56 PM PST by centurion316
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To: conservativeharleyguy

Lotus is owned by Proton of Malaysia.


36 posted on 01/02/2009 4:42:51 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (No 3rd term for King Obongo! Al Franken for President! Prove the validity of the ADA!)
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To: SwampFoxOfVa
That is not a Europa. The front is different and from what I can see the back is different too. Take it from a former Europa owner, that’s not a Europa.

On the left, the Lotus Europa. On the right, (or below, depending on your screen size) the Dodge EV:

You were saying?

37 posted on 01/02/2009 4:48:55 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

They sure have changed since I had one. Mine was a ‘67 model with the Renault engine and gearbox. It was the best handling street car I ever had.
My apologies for not keeping up with the changes. I can’t afford one anymore, plus my wife would divorce me :-)


38 posted on 01/02/2009 4:55:38 PM PST by SwampFoxOfVa
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To: Red Badger; reg45

It’s a 2006 GMC Canyon, I-5 engine. I was wierded out at first, but now, I love it. It’s a 19.6 gallon tank, and I get 300-330 a tank.

I bought it in August of 2007, with 97 miles on it, brand new (never ‘owned’ before). 4 door, 4x4, power everything, XM radio, and I have the 100,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. I just love it.


39 posted on 01/03/2009 10:40:07 PM PST by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: chuckles

But don’t you yourself recharge every night “for hours”?

EV charging is different from gas, that you refill in ten minutes, but OTOH - with gas - you do have to stand around and wait for ten stinky minutes while you refill the gas.

Electric cars really charge in less than a second.

That’s all the time it takes you to plug into the socket in the garage when you get home at night.

Then you spend 12 hours recharging yourself; watch tv, eat dinner, sleep, get up in the morning recharged and go to the garage, unplug the EV for another day of driving.


40 posted on 01/04/2009 12:38:08 PM PST by another old fogy (I love EV's and write about them)
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To: another old fogy
...get up in the morning recharged and go to the garage, unplug the EV for another day of driving.

Where I live is 550 miles from my family.

As it is, I can get in my car and drive straight thru for ten hours and reach home before the sun sets.

Could I do that in an EV? Would I even want to try?

41 posted on 01/04/2009 12:46:15 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: another old fogy
Fine for the daily commute and short-haul driving. But it's lousy for extended trips. I don't think it's going to be manageable for my family's annual 1000 mile vacation trek. We can do that now in a day (albeit a hard day). If I have to stop for 12 hours every 300 miles, it's going to turn it into a three day vacation in itself, being done twice over for the round trip. So instead of two days on the road we'll be on the road for six. A lot of the vacation will be road time.

Until EVs solve the problem of range and environmental control (heating in winter and A/C in summer), they aren't going to be very popular with the driving public.

42 posted on 01/04/2009 12:47:13 PM PST by chimera
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