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GMAC Continues Sponsorship of Bowl Game Despite $5 Billion Taxpayer Bailout
businessandmedia.org ^ | January 2, 2009 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 01/02/2009 2:29:14 PM PST by Rufus2007

GMAC may be in financial trouble, but that isn’t stopping the auto lender-turned-bank holding company from maintaining its corporate sponsorships.

In October, GMAC changed its legal status so that it would be eligible for TARP funds passed by Congress. Late last month, GMAC was approved to receive a $5 billion lifeline from the U.S. government. However, the company is still maintaining its sponsorship of a collegiate bowl game set for Jan. 6 in Mobile, Ala.

“There’s about 34 bowl games, 30 of which are sponsored in one way or the other,” Fox Business Network’s Jenna Lee said Jan. 2 on the Fox News Channel’s “Happening Now.” “The lower-level, the mid-level games pull in about six figures to have your name attached to one of the games – that’s the estimate. And the big games, let’s say the Rose Bowl for example, or the Sugar Bowl, or the Orange Bowl – those figures go upwards of $5 to $6 million for some sort of sponsorship.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; bailout; bowlgames; gmac; tarp
I guess this one went unnoticed.
1 posted on 01/02/2009 2:29:14 PM PST by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

How dare GMAC have a marketing department!


2 posted on 01/02/2009 2:31:13 PM PST by omega4179 (Bush Abandoned Ramos and Compean)
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To: Rufus2007

The contract to do this was probably done and paid for a year agao


3 posted on 01/02/2009 2:31:26 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

And I meant to add, how are they supposed to sell without advertising their product?


4 posted on 01/02/2009 2:32:59 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Rufus2007
In October, GMAC changed its legal status so that it would be eligible for TARP funds passed by Congress. Late last month, GMAC was approved to receive a $5 billion lifeline from the U.S. government. However, the company is still maintaining its sponsorship of a collegiate bowl game set for Jan. 6 in Mobile, Ala.

Hey, this stylish government takeover worked for the U.S.S.R. didn't it, why wouldn't it work for the U.S.A.?

5 posted on 01/02/2009 2:34:57 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: GOP_Raider

College Football PING?


6 posted on 01/02/2009 2:38:21 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: JEFF POOR

What was your 2007 personal federal income tax liability? Did you receive and cash a federal govt. stimulus check?

Nothing personal, I'm just curious how pristine those who are doing all the carping are.


7 posted on 01/02/2009 2:39:40 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"The contract to do this was probably done and paid for a year ago"

I agee but, they still have my money when they should gone out of business.

8 posted on 01/02/2009 2:40:50 PM PST by blam
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To: Rufus2007

It’s right in line with the way some of us at a local level get to pay dramatically higher property taxes to build these stupid stadiums for privately-owned football teams. Isn’t access to sporting events guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution?


9 posted on 01/02/2009 2:40:54 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Las Vegas Ron
What if they used that as a gimmick? Say they started on January 25th, and said, "We're cutting off all advertising for the month of February, come in, and get an EXTRA $1000 off of a car!"

When you see the enormous amounts being spent on advertising at all levels, it's gotta cost nearly that per vehicle for the few cars they're selling these days.

10 posted on 01/02/2009 2:42:22 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: I see my hands

I gladly took my rebate and used it; it was a tax rebate, and a small amount of the total taxes I paid. GM did not pay $5 billion in taxes, let alone the $100 billion it would take to equal the amount of rebate I received from that $600 check.


11 posted on 01/02/2009 2:48:15 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: blam
I agee but, they still have my money when they should gone out of business.

I coulddn't agree with you more, but that wasn't my point

12 posted on 01/02/2009 2:51:31 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: hunter112
advertising for the month of February, come in, and get an EXTRA $1000 off of a car!"

Unless I am misunderstanding your point, they would have to advertise that, no?

13 posted on 01/02/2009 2:53:20 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Rufus2007
GMAC changed its legal status...

At one time GM was free and twisted governments arm via their production as a company promoting freedom.

During WWII another option wasn't available to maintain sovereignty as a nation.

Today, government dictates.....

14 posted on 01/02/2009 2:54:09 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Rufus2007

And how much did Citigroup agree to pay for the naming rights to the Mets new stadium? And how many billions did they get from the Feds? What about Citizens bank and the Phillies? Bank of America? M&T Bank?


15 posted on 01/02/2009 2:55:14 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Yes, they would advertise it for the last week of January, then go silent. February's a short month, they can piss money away like gangbusters again in March if they want. Or, if they still feel that advertising during the Super Bowl would actually convince people to buy cars, they could just delay the whole thing until March.

I remember when ARCO Oil decided it would no longer take credit cards so that it could save money on the sale of gasoline, and pass that on to the buying public. They consistently sell for about ten cents a gallon less than their competitors. It's going to take something besides the old ideas to get things moving again.

16 posted on 01/02/2009 2:57:31 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
"I gladly took my rebate and used it"

I didn't get one. I guess I paid for yours. Your sense of entitlement is bold.

The check wasn't a rebate, it was welfare.


17 posted on 01/02/2009 2:59:58 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: I see my hands

Yes, paying $12,000 in taxes, and getting a $600 check is definitely welfare...


18 posted on 01/02/2009 3:03:34 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: hunter112
It's going to take something besides the old ideas to get things moving again

As I posted earlier, these ad deals are made and paid for way in advance, so they are committed...now if they had gone bankrupt...

We probably both know what it's going to take for the auto industry to get out of this mess and we both know it will never happen

19 posted on 01/02/2009 3:07:15 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
"Yes, paying $12,000 in taxes, and getting a $600 check is definitely welfare"

Do you think 12K pays for your family's keep? I paid much more Fed income tax than 12K, didn't get a check and paid for yours.

Too bad takers can't market rationalizations.


20 posted on 01/02/2009 3:25:30 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Rufus2007
I saw this on FOX this afternoon.

They're all crooks and the government We (or somebody) elected is complicit.

Most people won't even know this because they don't watch FOX or lurk on FR.

21 posted on 01/02/2009 3:44:17 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...
The FR College Football Ping List
FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list

22 posted on 01/02/2009 3:48:43 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Have you risen above your own public education today?)
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To: GOP_Raider

Good Luck tonite. This is one hell of a test for UTAH!


23 posted on 01/02/2009 3:50:41 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: I see my hands
The check wasn't a rebate, it was welfare.

For me it was a new 40cal handgun. :^)

24 posted on 01/02/2009 3:53:23 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: GOP_Raider

I realize it has nothing to do with this thread but I imagine you’ve got some kind of a party set up.


25 posted on 01/02/2009 3:56:28 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Unfortunately, I have to work tonight so I’m going to be here with FOX on one of my monitors—a bunch of my friends in SLC are in the Big Easy as we type however. I’ll have burned an ulcer or two through my stomach if this one is still competitive in the 2nd half. :)


26 posted on 01/02/2009 4:13:36 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Have you risen above your own public education today?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Exactly, they have withdrawn from future games. In fact, corporate sponsors are dropping like flies. Nascar is in trouble also.


27 posted on 01/02/2009 4:19:52 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: GOP_Raider

It’s a big game but you guys didn’t go undefeated for no reason.


28 posted on 01/02/2009 4:22:40 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: Las Vegas Ron
And I meant to add, how are they supposed to sell without advertising their product?

That this snotty report is from a website called businessandmedia.org is quite revealing, too.

Evidently, the editors of the website have no clue as to how businesses use media to promote their product.

Advertising pays the media's freight but reporters are so dumb as to bite the hand that feeds them.

29 posted on 01/02/2009 4:25:39 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
"GM did not pay $5 billion in taxes."

GM pays substantially more than that annually when you consider all of the payroll, income, and business taxes for itself and its employees.

30 posted on 01/02/2009 4:30:27 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“The contract to do this was probably done and paid for a year agao”

Not to mention what the penalties for withdrawing the sponsorships would have been.


31 posted on 01/02/2009 4:34:11 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: okie01
Advertising pays the media's freight but reporters are so dumb as to bite the hand that feeds them.

Exactly...kind of like how the gubmint treats us taxpayers too, ba$turds

32 posted on 01/02/2009 4:39:08 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: okie01

If GMAC paid $500k for 8 years of sponsorship, that would be a no brainer.

Unfortunately, this article is so poorly written you can not ascertain the facts.


33 posted on 01/02/2009 4:49:55 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: I see my hands
Do you think 12K pays for your family's keep? I paid much more Fed income tax than 12K, didn't get a check and paid for yours.

Then you are either a non-resident alien, or your AGI was above $87,000 or you are lying. For those that paid taxes, this is not welfare, this is a net reduction in tax rates.

I suppose any cut in taxes - or any mid-year correction in deductions, such as with vehicle mileage - is a welfare check in your eyes? Do you just give your entire check to the Government?

34 posted on 01/02/2009 5:28:12 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Rufus2007
Would it not be that the tax payers sponsored the bowl games!!!
35 posted on 01/02/2009 5:36:56 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: I see my hands
You sound like a good Ted Kennedy-Democrat, where a tax cut is a "tax expenditure," or, in this case, where getting money back on the taxes paid is welfare.

If you paid more than 12k, why did you not get the rebate? If you made too much, I understand your gripe. But your thinking is wrong.

36 posted on 01/02/2009 7:10:41 PM PST by jammer
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
"Then you are either a nonresident alien, or your AGI was above $87,000 or you are lying"

"For those that paid taxes, this is not welfare, this is a net reduction in tax rates"

"Do you just give your entire check to the Government?"

Guess which.

Wrong again, greedy. I paid fed income taxes, lots of them. I got no reduction, you got a dole check.

Apparently not. I'm also passing out $600 checks to those whose only claim is they aren't productive enough.

Now that you've taken what others created just shut up if you can't say thank you.


37 posted on 01/02/2009 7:50:44 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: jammer
"You sound like a good Ted Kennedy-Democrat."

Yeah right, while my money is in your pocket. You moochers have got more nerve than a bum tooth and zero moral authority to opine negatively on corporate bailouts.


38 posted on 01/02/2009 7:57:53 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: I see my hands

Sucks to be you, I guess... You need a new CPA if you couldn’t get your tax rebate, since it only went to those who made less than $87,000 AGI and paid more than $600 in Federal income tax.

Or you’re just upset that you’re in a higher tax bracket? Progressive tax rates suck, but with the $87,000 AGI cap all this is, is an adjustment to that progressive rate.

I paid far more in Federal taxes than $600; I got some of that back. Maybe you need to learn more about how to structure your income so you can benefit from the lowest possible tax rate. See Judge Learned Hand for some choice quotes about the duty of citizens to do just this.


39 posted on 01/02/2009 8:13:25 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: GOP_Raider

I’ll jinx you now. Congratulations! (Your team has changed the landscape of the BCS)


40 posted on 01/02/2009 8:30:52 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: Las Vegas Ron

LOL!!!

Stop making sense!!!!


41 posted on 01/02/2009 8:34:46 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Rufus2007

It’s also kind of funny to read the PGA schedule and see how many tour sponsors may need to be “rescued”:

Bob Hope Chrysler Classic
Buick Invitational
FBR Open
Arnold Palmer Invitational presented by Mastercard
Puerto Rico Open presented by Banco Popular
Zurich Classic of New Orleans
Wachovia Championship
The Memorial Tournament presented by Morgan Stanley
Travelers Championship
Buick Open
U.S. Bank Championship in Milwaukee
RBC Canadian Open
The Barclays
Deutsche Bank Championship


42 posted on 01/02/2009 8:41:24 PM PST by gore_sux
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