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Contraceptive pill is polluting environment: Vatican newspaper
Yahoo! News (AFP) ^ | 1/3/2009 | n/a

Posted on 01/03/2009 6:02:56 PM PST by Pyro7480

he contraceptive pill is polluting the environment and is in part responsible for male infertility, a report in the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano said Saturday.

The pill "has for some years had devastating effects on the environment by releasing tonnes of hormones into nature" through female urine, said Pedro Jose Maria Simon Castellvi, president of the International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations, in the report.

"We have sufficient evidence to state that a non-negligible cause of male infertility in the West is the environmental pollution caused by the pill," he said, without elaborating further.

"We are faced with a clear anti-environmental effect which demands more explanation on the part of the manufacturers," added Castellvi.

The article was promptly dismissed by several organisations.

"Once metabolised, the hormones contained in oral contraceptives no longer have any of the characteristic effects of feminine hormones," said Gianbenedetto Melis, vice-president of a contraceptive research association, quoted by the ANSA news agency.

The hormones contained in the pill such as oestrogen "are present everywhere... in plastic, in disinfectants, in meat that we eat," added Flavia Franconi, of the Society of Italian Pharmacology....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: contraception; contraceptives; enviromentalism; hormones; infertility; pollution; vatican
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The hormones contained in the pill such as oestrogen "are present everywhere... in plastic, in disinfectants, in meat that we eat," added Flavia Franconi, of the Society of Italian Pharmacology.

Quite true, and what she's not saying is that it's contributing to the problem.

1 posted on 01/03/2009 6:02:57 PM PST by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 01/03/2009 6:03:42 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Pyro7480

this has got to be a joke right


3 posted on 01/03/2009 6:04:52 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Yes, and there are measurable levels of antidepressants and other prescription medications in the nations major rivers.


4 posted on 01/03/2009 6:08:37 PM PST by ichabod1 (Reagan wouldÂ’ve fired them.)
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To: ichabod1

We have treatment plants in AZ.


5 posted on 01/03/2009 6:10:16 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Pyro7480

pah-leze.

We get it, they don’t like birth control; just be honest about it because we don’t need the theatrics.


6 posted on 01/03/2009 6:11:33 PM PST by eclecticEel (In short, I want Obama given the same respect and deference that Democrats have given George Bush)
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To: eclecticEel

Yeah lets just ignore the science


7 posted on 01/03/2009 6:12:23 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Pyro7480

It worked for Al Gore...


8 posted on 01/03/2009 6:13:01 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Pyro7480

There was a group of scientists that came up with this study almost a year ago. Yes, it was posted on FR.


9 posted on 01/03/2009 6:13:14 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: Pyro7480

It encourages sex, and sex causes heavy breathing, which increases greenhouse gases.


10 posted on 01/03/2009 6:14:07 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

and everyone of them great scholars i am sure


11 posted on 01/03/2009 6:14:59 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

The premise has been known fact for years....it’s only the damage that’s been in dispute.


12 posted on 01/03/2009 6:15:44 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Pyro7480

13 posted on 01/03/2009 6:22:15 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: Pyro7480

The real bugaboo in The Pill is progestin.

Google “progestin breast cancer.”


14 posted on 01/03/2009 6:23:12 PM PST by littlehouse36
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To: Pyro7480

Hmmm...even without The Pill humans must dump tons of hormones into the environment. And add to that animals and their urine, and it adds up to a large number!

Then there are all the insects dumping pheromones into the air, and people emit pheromones too, as do most animals.

Plants use ethylene gas as a hormone and as communications.

Life really must mess up Earth!

I’d like to read some papers on just how much BC hormone is excreted in human female urine and what it’s environmental fate is, before I decide if this is a problem.

Any of you researchers find some backup data to refute or prove this claim?


15 posted on 01/03/2009 6:24:24 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Pyro7480
Here is another story on the subject.
16 posted on 01/03/2009 6:26:31 PM PST by Greysard
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To: eclecticEel; marajade; DBrow

Hey, don’t shoot the messengers. See post #9


17 posted on 01/03/2009 6:27:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Pyro7480
An analytical procedure was developed that enables routine analysis of four estrogenic hormones in concentrations below 1 ng/l in surface water and waste water. The recovery was 88–98% with a limit of detection of 0.1–2.4 ng/l depending on the compound and the matrix measured. This method was used to determine the occurrence of 17β-estradiol, 17α-estradiol, estrone and 17α-ethinylestradiol in the aquatic environment in The Netherlands. The data show that estrogenic hormones can be detected at low concentrations (up to 6 ng/l) at some locations in surface water. In selected effluents of waste water treatment plants estrone and 17β-estradiol were detected in concentrations in the ng/l range. Concentrations of 17α-estradiol and the contraceptive 17α-ethinylestradiol were in most of these samples below the limit of detection. Hormone glucuronides were not detected in most surface water and effluents. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V78-3Y9RKF0-B&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=9359869a830b3072a4cac346607b05b5
18 posted on 01/03/2009 6:28:53 PM PST by DBrow
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To: eclecticEel; marajade; DBrow

Or post #16 for that matter.


19 posted on 01/03/2009 6:28:56 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Pyro7480

True and not just birth control pills, but other drugs — all of which end up in our water and is affecting fish and other animals along with humans.


20 posted on 01/03/2009 6:33:45 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I think the original study was based on samples of fish taken from rivers, with defective sex organs, mating habits etc.


21 posted on 01/03/2009 6:33:54 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: Pyro7480

I’m not shooting the messengers at all, just jumping in.


22 posted on 01/03/2009 6:33:56 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Pyro7480
Various studies indicate that unregulated chemicals released into the environment are causing male animals and humans to take on feminine characteristics.

Does this explain why the Republican party has become so timid?

23 posted on 01/03/2009 6:35:27 PM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: Liberty Wins

lol if they drink tapwater and the dems all drink the same type of bottled water, you may be on to something.

And it’s as plausible as any theory requiring that fire not melt steel!


24 posted on 01/03/2009 6:41:04 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow
And it’s as plausible as any theory requiring that fire not melt steel

So anyone forwarding the theory of synthetic hormones affecting the environment are like 9/11 Truthers, eh?

25 posted on 01/03/2009 6:49:17 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Pyro7480
the contraceptive pill is polluting the environment and is in part responsible for male infertility

Wow this must have man-hating environmental whackos in a dither. Save the environment...sterilize men...save the environment...sterilize men...save the environment...

26 posted on 01/03/2009 6:54:44 PM PST by Tidbit (What's black and white, and red all over? The new administration.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Something like that. The only thing about the premise of this article is that factually, it takes over 2mg of estradiol - per day - to have any perceptible effect on a male human. 2mg is a LOT.


27 posted on 01/03/2009 7:03:54 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Pyro7480

Please read my posts- I was responding to someone postulating that Republicans have become wussies because of female hormones in the water. THAT theory is as good as theories requiring that fire not melt steel, perhaps you missed the humor there.

This could indeed be serious, and if you scrool up more you’ll see that I asked FR research types to look for articles about persistence of hormones in human urine and their environmental plight, then posted an abstract with a link on just that topic.

A political article using “science facts” takes some work to sort out, but we do that well here.


28 posted on 01/03/2009 7:09:33 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Psycho_Bunny; MyTwoCopperCoins

The abstract I posted above mentions levels of 6 nanograms per liter. At that level it would take 166,000 liters to get a milligram, which is only 20 liters per day for a little over 8000 years.

If we are more sensitive, say at the microgram level, then the problem becomes more plausible.

We need more data.


29 posted on 01/03/2009 7:13:59 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow
Please read my posts- I was responding to someone postulating that Republicans have become wussies because of female hormones in the water. THAT theory is as good as theories requiring that fire not melt steel, perhaps you missed the humor there.

Well, on second glance, lol. ;-)

30 posted on 01/03/2009 7:14:35 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

What about at more vulnerable stages of human development, such as indicated in the link on post #16.


31 posted on 01/03/2009 7:15:23 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Pyro7480

We need to see if all the dems drink the SAME bottled water, we could have fun with that fer shur!


32 posted on 01/03/2009 7:15:45 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Pyro7480

That’s a very different story. Personally, I think it’s a serious problem but, I base my knowledge of the subject on what could be biased, or selective studies.


33 posted on 01/03/2009 7:23:54 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: marajade

Not a joke. There is direct evidence in fish.


34 posted on 01/03/2009 7:47:07 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Pyro7480

The epidemic of diabetes appears to be linked to the presence of Persistent Organic Pollutants—i.e., The Pill and some other pharmaceuticals.

I’m ready to join a class-action suit against the Pill makers, because of their reckless, negligent activity.


35 posted on 01/03/2009 8:50:54 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: marajade

Not a joke.


36 posted on 01/03/2009 8:51:47 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

There’s actually going to be a class-action lawsuit???


37 posted on 01/03/2009 8:53:10 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: eclecticEel

Don’t worry: If you like contraception, you can ignore science. If you load your body up with artificial hormones, it’s perfectly safe as long as your body knows you’re doing it for contraceptive purposes.


38 posted on 01/03/2009 8:54:17 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Pyro7480

Not that I know of. I’m ready to join, though, if someone announces one.

It isn’t just water you drink. You absorb more pollutants through your skin when showering or bathing than you do from drinking water.

I’d like to see the stats on the incidence of various disorders, like diabetes, in places where the people are bathing in and drinking water that is certifiably free of hormones, POPs, etc.


39 posted on 01/03/2009 8:59:15 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: DBrow

This issue with contraceptives is that the hormones are synthetic. The synthetic version of oesterone is “ethinyl oestradiol” and has been found in male river fish to wreak havoc his (ahem) male-ness.

Likewise, the synthetic version of progesterone is called progestin and is a major player in breast cancer.


40 posted on 01/03/2009 9:05:21 PM PST by littlehouse36
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To: littlehouse36
"Concentrations of 17α-estradiol and the contraceptive 17α-ethinylestradiol were in most of these samples below the limit of detection." From my post above. NOT found in sewer plant discharges, limit of detection quite low.
41 posted on 01/03/2009 9:49:32 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Pyro7480
1994, was when I first read of this via a science community. Makes sense. There is also statistical evidence that long-term takers of The Pill have a much harder time conceiving after stopping The Pill, than women who have not used The Pill.

Since the time when I was a girl, the Catholic Church has been encouraging organic means (e.g., "rythym method") to not getting pregnant. Always made perfectly good sense to me.

The U.S. West is predominantly Catholic. And it never ceased to amaze me how many far lefties scorned the Catholic Church.

42 posted on 01/04/2009 3:37:58 AM PST by Alia
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To: Pyro7480
through female urine

And also through flushing pills down the drain.

43 posted on 01/04/2009 4:35:13 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: Alia
Since the time when I was a girl, the Catholic Church has been encouraging organic means (e.g., "rythym method") to not getting pregnant. Always made perfectly good sense to me.

And the "rhythm method" has been significantly refined. Natural Family Planning (NFP), followed correctly, now successfully prevents conception as well as barrier and chemical methods.

44 posted on 01/04/2009 4:39:39 AM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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Google “progestin breast cancer.”

Bingo! The 'race for the cure' could be cut short if they removed progestin from the market. Think of the lives that could be saved if women stopped taking progestin; but that would shrink the profit margin for the pharmaceutical houses and grant foundations like Susan G. Komen.

Neither is it valid to argue, as a justification for sexual intercourse which is deliberately contraceptive, that a lesser evil is to be preferred to a greater one, or that such intercourse would merge with procreative acts of past and future to form a single entity, and so be qualified by exactly the same moral goodness as these. Though it is true that sometimes it is lawful to tolerate a lesser moral evil in order to avoid a greater evil or in order to promote a greater good," it is never lawful, even for the gravest reasons, to do evil that good may come of it (18)—in other words, to intend directly something which of its very nature contradicts the moral order, and which must therefore be judged unworthy of man, even though the intention is to protect or promote the welfare of an individual, of a family or of society in general. Consequently, it is a serious error to think that a whole married life of otherwise normal relations can justify sexual intercourse which is deliberately contraceptive and so intrinsically wrong.
HUMANAE VITAE

Better to keep women on progestin to satisfy the feminists than ensure their well being. (/sarc)

45 posted on 01/04/2009 5:09:40 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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46 posted on 01/04/2009 5:16:41 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Fertility is not a disease.


47 posted on 01/04/2009 6:10:29 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: Salvation

You and I talked about this in PM, remember?


48 posted on 01/04/2009 6:42:19 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: DBrow

“I’d like to read some papers on just how much BC hormone is excreted in human female urine and what it’s environmental fate is, before I decide if this is a problem.”

The ‘problem is easily solved by passing another set of laws to reduce female urination. I hereby humbly suggest a new agency to make sure that all public facilities havemore stalls in male than female bathrooms.

Further, a tax shall be passed upon all females who urinate. Said tax shall be based upon estimated volume and frequency. The Obamasiah will appoint disabled, black lesbians to all positions created in the new Federal Agency which will be called Reduction In P*ssing Offenses (RIP OFF).

Such a tax could be adjusted by race, ethnicity, ad nauseam (no pun intended) to achieve whatever financial, political, and possibly even environmental goals defined in the words written in stone, on the tablets brought down from Mount Washington by the Obamasiah.

For the lurking Liberal and all to many recent public school graduates /s off.


49 posted on 01/04/2009 6:44:34 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, When you walk around wi)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; DBrow; eclecticEel; marajade
"The only thing about the premise of this article is that factually, it takes over 2mg of estradiol - per day - to have any perceptible effect on a male human. 2mg is a LOT."

I'm very interested in this, and would like to see a link or documentation.

I'd also like to know whether it applies only to adult males humans, or to all males including embryos.

From what I've been reading, it's affecting fish and amphibians in many major North American watersheds. I'm talking about real freaky fish, males with eggs in their testicles and so forth. And there's more recent reports of analogous changes in other taxa.

The Pill as Pollutant, National Review

Male Fish Becoming Female, MSNBC

Fish devastated by sex-changing chemicals in municipal wastewater, Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council (Canada)

Feminized to Extinction, ScienceNow, American Association for the Advancement of Science

And these are just a sampling out of thousands. Just for fun, google estrogen testicles male fertility.

50 posted on 01/04/2009 7:34:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible. Albert Einstein)
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