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Democrats Debate Methods to End Stem Cell Ban
NY Times ^ | January 3, 2009 | CARL HULSE

Posted on 01/04/2009 6:04:37 PM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON — Thwarted by President Bush in their efforts to expand federal spending on embryonic stem cell research, Democrats are now debating whether to overturn federal restrictions through executive order or by legislation when they assume full control of the government this month.

Both President-elect Barack Obama and Democratic Congressional leaders have made repealing Bush administration restrictions announced in 2001 a top priority. But they have yet to determine if Mr. Obama should quickly put his stamp on the issue by way of presidential directive, or if Congress should write a permanent policy into statute.

The debate is not academic. Democrats who oppose abortion say such a legislative fight holds the potential to get the year off to a difficult beginning, even though the outcome is certain given solid majorities in both the House and the Senate for expanded embryonic stem cell research.

“It is a very divisive issue, and it is a tough way to start,” said Senator Ben Nelson, a moderate Democrat from Nebraska. “You don’t want to stumble out of the box.”

In addition, many of the Democratic gains in Congress, particularly in the House, have come in more conservative areas, with strategists estimating that up to 70 Democrats could find themselves in competitive races in 2010. Those potentially vulnerable lawmakers provide another consideration for leaders weighing whether to set an early test vote on what for some is a politically sensitive subject back home.

At the same time, officials note that increasing federal spending on stem cell research is widely popular and has been a signature issue for Congressional Democrats in the last two elections, helping them defeat Republicans opposed to the concept. Many lawmakers would...

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“I myself would favor legislation, so it is the law,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, said this week...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho2008; bioethics; democrats; embryonicstemcells; stemcells
Don't worry about the misleading title. That's nothing new. I hope Pelosi over reaches badly.
1 posted on 01/04/2009 6:04:37 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Hello, President Bush was the most “liberal” president we’ve had on stem cells. Under President Clinton, no federal money went to embryonic stem cells. If companies want to research on embryonic stem cells, they can afford to pay for it. Do we need more corproate welfare at this time?


2 posted on 01/04/2009 6:10:42 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: neverdem

Abort the democrats, however, expect more stems and buds, then stem cells.


3 posted on 01/04/2009 6:12:13 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: neverdem

Democrats LOOOOOOOOOOOVVVEE dead babies.


4 posted on 01/04/2009 6:12:29 PM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: neverdem; Mr. Silverback; wagglebee
CANNIBALS.

Democrats consider human babies The Other White (or Dark) Meat.

5 posted on 01/04/2009 6:14:48 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: nickcarraway

Hello - under President Kennedy there was no federal money for stem cell research either. Bush was the first President to meet the issue head on. For all his faults his position on stem cells was not one of them. But it doesn’t matter now. Obama, Pelosi and Reid are in charge and Bush’s policy of not funding new lines will be overturned.


6 posted on 01/04/2009 6:16:47 PM PST by plain talk
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To: neverdem
At the same time, officials note that increasing federal spending on stem cell research is widely popular and has been a signature issue for Congressional Democrats in the last two elections, helping them defeat Republicans opposed to the concept.

Bovine scatology from the liberal "media." "Wildly popular?!" Give me a break. This is about "government grants" to a bunch of freeloading "researchers" who can't get anyone else to subsidize their fun and games with embryos.

7 posted on 01/04/2009 6:17:27 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction" read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: plain talk

The media portrays it as if President Bush took away funding from ESCR, that is 100% false.


8 posted on 01/04/2009 6:18:34 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: neverdem
What the Dems want is to fund embryonic stem cell research since that will entail building a new building in their districts or states.

It's always about the graft.

9 posted on 01/04/2009 6:19:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

They can put “embryonic” in the first sentence of the story but they can never seem to get it into the title of the article...The devil loves to confuse...


10 posted on 01/04/2009 6:51:03 PM PST by frogjerk (Welcome|Goodbye to|from Free|Fairness Doctrine Republic!)
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We’re broke, not to mention the ethical problems, and these fools want to throw money away on a method that’s never done squat. If they ever yield results, if they are not an exact genetic match, then you are probably looking at a lifetime of immunosuppressive drugs.


11 posted on 01/04/2009 7:16:18 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
The culture of DEATH is in full control mode come Jan 20.
12 posted on 01/04/2009 7:27:27 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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13 posted on 01/04/2009 7:44:17 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: nickcarraway

Nick - All I know is Bush wouldn’t allow funding for new stem cell lines and allowed it for existing ones. If you want to trash Bush for allowing it on existing lines go ahead. But now the dems will open it wide up on new lines as well.

You think in today’s envisonment Bill Clinton would be more conservative than Bush on stem cell funding? Sorry - I am not buying that argument.


14 posted on 01/04/2009 8:10:24 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

My point was not to trash President Bush- merely to set the record straight.


15 posted on 01/04/2009 8:15:53 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: plain talk
Hello - under President Kennedy there was no federal money for stem cell research either.

Ah, yes. But how much money did Mildred Fillmore put into Stem Cell Research.

16 posted on 01/04/2009 8:29:08 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 01/04/2009 8:54:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: nickcarraway

ESCR will soon be abandoned, as they continue to find it giving misleading results.

ASCR, Adult individualized Stem Cell Research is the new standard.

They will soon be able to fix you using your own stem cells.


18 posted on 01/05/2009 12:09:27 AM PST by djf (< Tagline closed until further notice. Awaiting bailout >)
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To: neverdem

They need to justify the grave evils which they promote & encourage.

So, they approach the mirage of producing good fruit from a diseased tree, desperately hoping they can do it, not for the good of mankind but, rather, to placate their puny consciences.


19 posted on 01/05/2009 5:09:41 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

I like your tagline. This is not just the culture of death, but enslavement, experimentation, harvesting and execution of humans in vats. When I grew up I read about this in science fiction novels. Now it will become science practice.


20 posted on 01/05/2009 5:16:17 AM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer

Yes, it is an entire, evil, world of exploitation, abuse, and torture of innocent human beings.

Yet, many people are content to shield their apathy and inaction behind a false definition of Federalism.


21 posted on 01/05/2009 2:50:30 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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