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Idaho soldier's dad says White House pardon is under review
AP ^ | 06 Jan 2009 | AP

Posted on 01/06/2009 7:35:55 AM PST by BGHater

A White House letter tells the father his request on behalf of Sgt. Evan Vela will be 'seriously considered.'

The father of an eastern Idaho soldier convicted of killing an unarmed Iraqi says the White House has confirmed that President Bush is considering a request for a pardon.

Curtis Carnahan said he received a letter from the White House last week.

"Please know that your views on this matter will be seriously considered," it said.

Sgt. Evan Vela,a 24-year-old U.S. Army sniper,was convicted in February and sentenced to 10 years in prison for killing an unarmed Iraqi civilian who stumbled upon him and five other soldiers sleeping on May 11, 2007.

Vela also was convicted of planting an AK-47 rifle on the dead man's body and of lying to military investigators.

Vela is serving his prison sentence at the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks in Leavenworth,Kan.

Carnahan has mounted a campaign to get his son pardoned, recently sending 235 letters to the White House asking Bush to set aside Vela's conviction.

"We're still hopeful he'll do something," Carnahan told the Post Register newspaper.

Sen. Mike Crapo and Rep. Mike Simpson,both Idaho Republicans,last month sent letters to Bush asking him to pardon Vela.

Carnahan said the letter he received also noted there are other ways for his son to be released.One of them, he said, is for his son to be granted clemency.

Carnahan, who lives in the eastern Idaho town of Parker, said Vela's case will automatically move to the military appellate court.

"We're not going to stop until someone lets him go," Carnahan said.

Under the Constitution, the president's power to issue pardons is absolute and cannot be overruled - meaning he can forgive anyone he wants,at any time. Bush has so far granted 189 pardons and nine commutations.

(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: bush; evanvela; idaho; iraq; pardon; pardons; president; vela; whitehouse
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1 posted on 01/06/2009 7:35:56 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Free Scooter Libby!


2 posted on 01/06/2009 7:37:13 AM PST by saganite
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To: saganite

bttt


3 posted on 01/06/2009 7:38:40 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: BGHater

I’d be inclined to support this young man’s pardon if he had not planted a weapon on the person he accidently killed and then lied to investigators about it.


4 posted on 01/06/2009 7:42:39 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: nahanrac; bigheadfred; RedRover; 4woodenboats; Girlene

Pingaling


5 posted on 01/06/2009 7:45:23 AM PST by lilycicero
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To: GOP_Raider

Here’s one worth our attention, GOP_raider.


6 posted on 01/06/2009 7:47:10 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: WayneS; nahanrac

I am more inclined not to punish those who come home alive, vs. glorifying those who should have done the same thing as Vela, but came home in a box instead. There’s the media version, and then there’s the truth. You made your choice already.


7 posted on 01/06/2009 7:52:08 AM PST by lilycicero (And yes, that is smoke coming from my ears.)
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To: WayneS

Pardon for the shooting (which just happens in war), and keep the portion of the sentence related to lying, with time served as punishment.


8 posted on 01/06/2009 7:52:15 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: WayneS

“I’d be inclined to support this young man’s pardon if he had not planted a weapon on the person he accidently killed and then lied to investigators about it.”

Exactly.


9 posted on 01/06/2009 7:57:26 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: WayneS
"I’d be inclined to support this young man’s pardon if he had not planted a weapon on the person he accidently killed and then lied to investigators about it."

What a ridiculous remark. He should just trust his ENTIRE LIFE to the current political machine and our MORALLY IMPOTENT PRESIDENT ?!!

10 posted on 01/06/2009 8:11:39 AM PST by SENTINEL (Bxxxxx Box, Jxxx Box, Cxxxxxxxx Box, (Censored due to loss of 1st Amendment))
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To: gracesdad; WayneS

You are forming an opinion based on a couple of lines in an article that reveals none of the facts of the case.

Holding his trial in Baghdad, inflenced by High Iraqi government officials, with a jury hand-picked by the prosecution, with evidence buried under secret classifications, Vela was the sacrifice to help bring about part of the Sunni awakening of a tribe of people described by one of his commanding officers as “all Al Queada”.

He did the job he was sent there to do.

FREE EVAN VELA!


11 posted on 01/06/2009 9:09:03 AM PST by bigheadfred (I love being an Infidel)
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To: WayneS

There’s a huge difference between what he was convicted of and what he actually did. You should read a little more on his case.


12 posted on 01/06/2009 9:15:52 AM PST by nahanrac
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To: gracesdad; WayneS
“I’d be inclined to support this young man’s pardon if he had not planted a weapon on the person he accidently killed and then lied to investigators about it.”

Sgt. Evan Vela was not convicted of planting a weapon on the dead Iraqi. The AP did not have their facts straight. Information on Sgt. Vela's case can be found here, ARMY SNIPERS ACCUSED OF MURDER
13 posted on 01/06/2009 9:19:10 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene; All
Thanks for that link, Girlene.

For anyone interested:

Free Evan Vela

14 posted on 01/06/2009 9:33:40 AM PST by bigheadfred (I love being an Infidel)
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To: SENTINEL
What a ridiculous remark. He should just trust his ENTIRE LIFE to the current political machine and our MORALLY IMPOTENT PRESIDENT ?!!

So, obstructing justice and lying to investigators is all right because he was a soldier and the president is a weakling? Not buying it. Like the previous poster, if it had been just the shooting (an accident of war, by all accounts) I would be in favor of a pardon, but pardoning him after this dishonorable behavior would send the message that military personnel are above such petty things as law and order. An idea made all the more frightening by the fact that law and order are the very things that the military is in place to protect. When the military is above the law, the result is a Banana Republic.

15 posted on 01/06/2009 9:34:09 AM PST by Seńor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: nahanrac

You can’t really expect people around here to actually read what they are commenting on. We have many people around here that are just to important for that don’t you know. /s/


16 posted on 01/06/2009 9:41:31 AM PST by beandog
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To: beandog

That’s true, I shouldn’t expect so much from the masses.


17 posted on 01/06/2009 9:53:32 AM PST by nahanrac
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To: SeƱor Zorro; lilycicero; Girlene; nahanrac

He gave his ALL, his gift to YOU—the young man we call Evan

The blow that breaks his brow tonight shall break the dome of heaven

The chance of battle changes, So may all battle be...

Your talking out your a$$ today, cause Evan kept you FREE.


18 posted on 01/06/2009 10:00:05 AM PST by bigheadfred (I love being an Infidel)
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To: SeƱor Zorro; lilycicero; bigheadfred

I wish I still had my innocence when it comes to exactly what the government is willing to do to the soldiers who are fighting to protect our rights..... Back to that innocence thing again lily.


19 posted on 01/06/2009 10:19:45 AM PST by nahanrac
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To: lilycicero

This is good news, smokey, even if it did draw a few uninformed posters who had nothing but ignorance and judgement to pay their bar tab with.


20 posted on 01/06/2009 10:22:28 AM PST by 4woodenboats (Someone buy those boys a clue and get the lady something cold to drink)
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To: SeƱor Zorro
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying.

There comes a point in the decay of governemnt that one is justified in taking actions necessary to protect one's own life, liberty and property.

Perhaps you would argue that a Blagojevich appointed judge should have tried him...? Of course one didn't, but it wasn't a George Washington appointed judge either, it was something in between. IMHO, the middle of the road between good and evil is evil. Enlisted grunts don't creat Bannana Republics, Generals, Presidents and Judges do.

It is a very sad state of affairs when our troops have to worry about the same kind of scmubag defense lawyers that have hounded our police forces for so many years, in addition to keeping themselves alive while killing our enemies. Now in addition to terrorists, they face criminal and civil lawsuits filed by CAIR and other TRAITORS upon return.

They now are as absolutley justified in covering up true mistakes and accidents as a rancher is in dealing with wolves on his land. SHOOT, SHOVEL AND SHUT UP !

SENTINEL = SGT USMC Desert Storm

21 posted on 01/06/2009 10:25:50 AM PST by SENTINEL (Bxxxxx Box, Jxxx Box, Cxxxxxxxx Box, (Censored due to loss of 1st Amendment))
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To: bigheadfred

Yes, I did form my opinion based on the reporting in a news article.

And now I guess I’m expected to CHANGE my opinion based “a couple of lines” in your comment on a thread at Free Republic?

Do you have sources for your accusations against the U.S. Army justice system and command structure, or are you just jumping to conclusions based on “a couple of lines” in some blog or internet news report that happens to be aligned with your pre-conceived notions?


22 posted on 01/06/2009 10:29:13 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I think justice would be served quite well by your solution.


23 posted on 01/06/2009 10:30:03 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: nahanrac

Where can I do this?


24 posted on 01/06/2009 10:30:43 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: beandog

I DID read the article I was commenting on. Can you lead me to another article about this case that disputes the statements in this one, or are you just an arrogant jack-ass?


25 posted on 01/06/2009 10:32:31 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: nahanrac

Reading comments by a few posters, you’d think they reside in the Rainforest Cafe.


26 posted on 01/06/2009 10:33:52 AM PST by lilycicero (I can't post what I really want to say.....wanus........)
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To: WayneS

I think you should just ask bigheadfred and nahanrac who they are....before you throw out anymore names.


27 posted on 01/06/2009 10:36:08 AM PST by lilycicero (I think you will change your 'tude once you read the real facts.and that's what FR is for.)
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To: WayneS; All

One of the best sources a man can have. My BROTHER has kept me informed, from Day 1, thru his 3 trips to Baghdad, to the present day, in the effort to save HIS SON.

And you have every right to your opinion. I just happen to strongly disagree.

I also want to personally thank all the FReepers who have given their time, love, and money :-), in the defense of Evan.


28 posted on 01/06/2009 10:44:05 AM PST by bigheadfred (I love being an Infidel)
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To: WayneS

There was a story in the July Esquire magazine. There is a website that was written on the behalf of Sgt. Vela. The web address is freeevanvela.com. On the left had side of the website are links to media stories. I think the Esquire link is there.


29 posted on 01/06/2009 10:45:21 AM PST by nahanrac
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To: Chief Engineer; Delphinium; EternalVigilance; Keyes2000mt; Sir_Ed; Knitting A Conundrum; ...
The FR Idaho Ping List
FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list

30 posted on 01/06/2009 10:46:49 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Have you risen above your own public education today?)
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To: lilycicero

Thanks Lily, THROW US to the wolves. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


31 posted on 01/06/2009 10:47:17 AM PST by bigheadfred (We're taking you with us)
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To: lilycicero

Amen! I believe almost nothing I read in the papers about our soldier’s actions in Iraq.


32 posted on 01/06/2009 10:49:30 AM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: lilycicero

And I think you should MYOB, actually.

For you see, my post was not addressed to bigheadfred OR to nahanrac.

They have yet to unjustifiably insult me for posting my opinion. (Please go back and read the original post by “beandog” relating to my first post. Then read the article. You should be able to see that the insult was not justified).

I based my original comment on the information provided in the news article posted above, which I DID read.

If someone else has additional information about this case which I CAN read which will further enlighten me, then I wish they would just post it instead of insulting people.


33 posted on 01/06/2009 10:49:45 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: nahanrac

Thanks.


34 posted on 01/06/2009 10:50:15 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: bigheadfred

We have learned that there are those even in the military who refuse to stand behind our troops, because their own careers come first.


35 posted on 01/06/2009 10:51:47 AM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: bigheadfred

Excellent. nahanrac has provided me with a a link to additional information on this case. I shall be reading up on it and I look forward to having an opportunity to possibly chnage my mind about the case.

PS - I DO hope you have at least read Comment #23.

Thanks for the info.


36 posted on 01/06/2009 10:54:33 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

The links at post #13, #14, My homepage has links. Search using keyword Vela on FR


37 posted on 01/06/2009 10:56:44 AM PST by bigheadfred (Free Evan Vela)
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks.


38 posted on 01/06/2009 11:02:21 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

You know, I really appreciate your willingness to read and perhaps change your mind. (Again that is what FR is about...factual reading) so when you post things that are not true, call freepers less than flattering names, I just didn’t want to see you dig a bigger hole for yourself.
Imagine who has the bigger sentence....Vela doing time at the USDB or a wife with 2 kids making a new life to be closer the her husband? Nobody is whining...nobody wanting a pity party..they just want the truth to be told.


39 posted on 01/06/2009 11:08:20 AM PST by lilycicero (Party on Wayne.........S)
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To: WayneS
At this point, anything would definitely help.

There is currently an Appeal in the works.

To help us pay for the cost of that Appeal. I BEG that anyone and all to send a DONATION NOW, in Evan's name, to the

WARRIOR FUND


40 posted on 01/06/2009 11:08:50 AM PST by bigheadfred (Free Evan Vela)
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To: lilycicero

Thank you.

Now, will you please do me the favor of telling me what I posted that was not true.


41 posted on 01/06/2009 11:10:41 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: bigheadfred; nahanrac

No wolves...just sheep. :)


42 posted on 01/06/2009 11:12:45 AM PST by lilycicero (I still haven't seen the sheep...those crazy critters.)
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To: lilycicero

You’re not from around here, are ya.


43 posted on 01/06/2009 11:17:41 AM PST by bigheadfred (Free Evan Vela)
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To: WayneS

Evan did not plant the weapon.


44 posted on 01/06/2009 11:22:22 AM PST by lilycicero (townhall.com Diana West has very good facts on Vela....)
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To: WayneS

I understand you got the info from the article.


45 posted on 01/06/2009 11:24:58 AM PST by lilycicero
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To: WayneS

No problem


46 posted on 01/06/2009 11:48:44 AM PST by nahanrac
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To: nahanrac
http://books.google.com/books?id=62EDrPL2dm4C&dq=don't+hug+me+book&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result

Here's a link for you.

47 posted on 01/06/2009 11:59:27 AM PST by lilycicero (Only 81 pages.)
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To: nahanrac

*sigh*


48 posted on 01/06/2009 12:00:57 PM PST by lilycicero (Girlene has the link magic.)
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To: lilycicero
AP articles have their own truths that transcends mere factual truths, adding newly found elightenments of the abstract to their stories in the same manner a baby might discover that his body just made something he can use to draw pictures with.

Did you know the Military Times went with the AP story word for word? Just like the Idaho paper.

I wonder how many hundreds of papers rely on one slipshod reporter before any of them (or their readers) follow up to see if their daily dose of stories are safe to swallow?

49 posted on 01/06/2009 12:09:34 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Failure to factcheck AP rumors is a leading cause of constipation.)
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To: lilycicero

Thanks Lily.


50 posted on 01/06/2009 12:16:38 PM PST by nahanrac (That was better than a hug.)
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