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Is the Obama White House going to re-institute the military draft?
Republican Liberty Caucus ^ | 1/6/2009 | Publicola and Historicus

Posted on 01/06/2009 2:49:23 PM PST by obamaisandrogynous

Media commentary today and in recent days indicates that there is the possibility that the Obama White House will reinstitute the draft as part of its “stimulus plan” to “create” several million new jobs in the U.S.

One wonders how the idealistic, youthful, leftist Obama voters — most of whom don’t even know the names of the capitals of their own states, let alone the capitals of foreign countries — will react to conscription.

A principle of liberty is that the armed forces should be composed of volunteers. The U.S. military embraces this position as well, arguing, for decades, that an all-volunteer force is motivated and will do its job more effectively than conscripts. One of the reasons there are fewer combat deaths today in Iraq and Afghanistan than there were in past wars is that the soldiers are professionals.

But, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the president elect, and incoming White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, support the draft. In a radio interview, in 2006, in fact, Emanuel came out publicly in favor of the draft, at a time when he was in the leadership of the House Democrats. “There’s nothing wrong with all Americans having civil defense training — doing civil service,” said Emanuel. “That will give them a sense of what it means to be an American. The state National Guard units can be a vehicle for that. ”

Emanuel said the age of service would be “between 18 and 25.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bhodod; bhodraft; cicobama; conscription; draft; emanuel; generationy; military; obama; obamatransitionfile; youthvote
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Wonder what the anti-war, neo-hippie Obamunists will think of being drafted to serve in Afghanistan, and Iraq?
1 posted on 01/06/2009 2:49:23 PM PST by obamaisandrogynous
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Don’t forget places in AFRICA.


2 posted on 01/06/2009 2:51:09 PM PST by unkus
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Conscription, communism, racism .... yep Stalin’s back.


3 posted on 01/06/2009 2:52:03 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Such a stupid article.


4 posted on 01/06/2009 2:53:02 PM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Reinstating the draft is how the left will insure the US military never goes to war again for any reason. Just like the Viet Nam protests, expect to see lefty nut cases protesting in the streets at the slightest hint of US military action by a conscript force. ......red


5 posted on 01/06/2009 2:54:38 PM PST by rednek (if it isn't large caliber, it isn't worth carrying)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

“youthful, leftist Obama voters — most of whom don’t even know the names of the capitals of their own states, let alone the capitals of foreign countries”

A huge number of Americans’ ethnocentrism and lack of geographic knowledge is really disturbing.

What’s Obama going to propose next? “We love our Dear Leader” indoctrination in public schools? I’d better stop before they get any more ideas....


6 posted on 01/06/2009 2:56:02 PM PST by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

Re-education programs.

Bill Ayers actually planned this, following the Chinese model.


7 posted on 01/06/2009 2:57:40 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: rednek
Reinstating the draft is how the left will insure the US military never goes to war again for any reason. Just like the Viet Nam protests, expect to see lefty nut cases protesting in the streets at the slightest hint of US military action by a conscript force. ......red

It's also how they'll try to change the demographic of the military such that 75% or so of the armed forces no longer detests the left.
8 posted on 01/06/2009 2:58:42 PM PST by JamesP81 (Let the Great RINO Hunt of 2009 begin)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

The appeal to liberals of a draft is that military pay can be drastically slashed with the difference used to buy votes elsewhere.


9 posted on 01/06/2009 2:59:03 PM PST by fso301
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To: wk4bush2004

“A huge number of Americans’ ethnocentrism and lack of geographic knowledge is really disturbing.”

Not really. Having spends years on every continent of this world, excepting Antartica (although I did get close), I can safely opine that most of the world sucks.


10 posted on 01/06/2009 2:59:11 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“I can safely opine that most of the world sucks.”

That might be. I’ve traveled a lot, too! I just think that so many people in America are only concerned with what they see around them and they don’t pay attention to world (or even national) events.


11 posted on 01/06/2009 3:02:29 PM PST by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I agree with you!
And BTW great profile.


12 posted on 01/06/2009 3:03:03 PM PST by elpinta (Insured by Walther, Glock, Smith & Wesson. Protected with 7.62 & 12 ga.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/06/democrats-desperately-desire-draft.html

Joseph Biden, the top Democrat of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made the prediction after new data released by the Pentagon showed the US Army failing to meet its recruitment targets for four straight months.

“We’re going to have to face that question,” Biden said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” television show when asked if it was realistic to expect restoration of the draft.

“The truth of the matter is, it is going to become a subject, if, in fact, there’s a 40 percent shortfall in recruitment. It’s just a reality,” he said.

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE TALKED ABOUT A DRAFT IN THE LAST 4 YEARS—and even introduced a measure into Congress to re-instate it— ARE THE DEMOCRATS. (see here, and here for example)The Republicans have insisted that they have no plans for one. The military have insisted repeatedly that they have no plans for one.


13 posted on 01/06/2009 3:03:35 PM PST by EBH ( Directive 10-289)
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To: VaBthang4
Such a stupid article.

Exactly. Zero knows that he can kiss it all goodbye with the libs if he does something this stupid. He doesn't mind tweaking with his supporters a bit, such as keeping Gates as Secretary of Defense, or having Rick Warren deliver a prayer even though it ticks off homosexuals, but he's not going to do something that fundamentally stupid.

14 posted on 01/06/2009 3:04:43 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

If he says “I’m not going to send a murican boys and girls to do the job Afgahnny boys and girls ought to be doing for themselves”, then it’s gonna happen.

Landslide Lyndon - A Democrat’s Democrat, stole his senate seat by 87 votes: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/06/the-dirty-joke-from-minnesota/

and vowed not to institute the draft.


15 posted on 01/06/2009 3:05:08 PM PST by H.Akston (Wonder what was on those classified papers that Sandy Berger destroyed at the National Archives?)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

He won’t put them in the armed forces. He’ll send christians kids to work in abortion clinics, sweeping streets, painting po people’s apartments.


16 posted on 01/06/2009 3:08:02 PM PST by stockpirate (To each according to their needs, (bailout) from each according to their ability(bailout funds))
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To: obamaisandrogynous
the ones in college and above will ALL get deferments or cushy jobs pushing papers 9-5 at some safe location so they can claim to have “served”

the hippie dippies might also get sent to Africa (where Bambi and Susan Rice have big plans for the US military to solve everything from Darfur to poverty) so they can be the peace corps in camouflage fatigues

the hard working military will probably be forced into becoming a diversity/jobs training program for flaming gays, idealistic authority-hating idiots, transgenders, illiterates, gang bangers, teenage single mothers, and otherwise empty out the projects, ala LBJ's Vietnam era failure known as “Project 100,000” - only on a scale sixfold greater

Anyone who wants to serve and is fit to serve- CAN GO SIGN UP AND SERVE

a draft would be a travesty, another assault on our personal freedom and liberty. It is functionally UNNECESSARY. If this occurs it must always called a DEMOCRAT DRAFT

17 posted on 01/06/2009 3:09:46 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: obamaisandrogynous
Conscripted 18-25 year olds will not be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan. They won't be sent to any shooting war. There won't be any more shooting wars. O will appease all our enemies rather than fight them.

The only way these conscripts will ever be sent out of the country at all is if the military is needed for some humanitarian mission (maybe aid to the poor starving Palestinians, for instance?). These are the only purposes for which the military will ever be deployed under the rule of these pacifists.

O will keep these 18-25 year olds in involuntary servitude, in direct violation of the 13th amendment, stateside, doing make-work jobs much like the New Deal. And it'll have about as much effect on the national economic well-being as that did -- that is, no effect. (It took a shooting war to get us out of the Great Depression. That's off the table, even if necessary, in the O peacenik administration.)

Meanwhile, since no one's getting shot at, the moronic sheeple who elected O will accept this new conscription without so much as a whimper.

The notion that 18-25 year olds, or anyone for that matter, need to be held in a state of involuntary servitude to realize what it is to be an "American" is deeply offensive to me. It should be so to anyone who values old, quaint American concepts like freedom and ownership of oneself and one's labors.

18 posted on 01/06/2009 3:11:07 PM PST by Emile ("If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" -- Unknown)
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To: obamaisandrogynous

The O is going to need troops to keep the peace at home, and what better way to do it than by drafting all the rabble rousers to be storm troopers in the USS of Omerica. They will be coming to your neighborhood soon.


19 posted on 01/06/2009 3:18:01 PM PST by pallis
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To: silverleaf

“the ones in college and above will ALL get deferments or cushy jobs pushing papers 9-5 at some safe location so they can claim to have “served””

Well, actually, the rear area has usually gone to others who claim to have been too heavily represented in death tolls........

Think about it.


20 posted on 01/06/2009 3:27:47 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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