Jeb Bush Could Divide the GOP (Please, no more Bushes, ever!)

newsmax ^ | Tuesday, January 6, 2009 3:41 PM | John LeBoutillier

[bestintxas]

Well, the holidays are over and the new year has begun, so let’s get down to business. Here are some 2009 predictions:

...Jeb Bush will be the Bush most in the news in 2009 as he contemplates a U.S. Senate run in 2010. Jeb’s presence — yet another Bush! — will bedevil the GOP for years to come.

If Jeb then tries to run for president in 2012 or 2016, it will divide the GOP; true conservatives will never again accept another Bush. The conservatives will fight it out to settle on one candidate to stop the Bushes from again seizing control of the GOP.

[bestintxas]

There is something in their blood that does not allow enough conservatism to escape.

[Ron Jeremy]

There is something in their blood that sells out their supporters in a failed attempt to get approval from their enemies.

[NonValueAdded]

Florida would easily take Jeb back as governor.

[Blogger]

I thought Jebby was a strong conservative in his state. Am I wrong?

At least with the current President we have gotten some stellar Supreme Court justices and pro-life laws. Choice between ANY democrat and Jeb, and it is Jebby the whole way. I won’t throw him away because he has a conservative-light father and a mixed legacy brother.

[saganite]

Another Bush is much too close to a political dynasty. I wouldn’t vote for him. Having said that, he should have been the President instead of GW and if he had won his first run for Gov of Florida he would have been Prez instead of W.

[Just A Nobody]

Yeah, yeah we get it. No more Bushes.

Meanwhile, bring on as many more Kennedy's as you can find.

[thecabal]

We’ve already got a 3rd Clinton term, we don’t need a 4th Bush term. Our country is being run by a Clinton/Bush political dynasty. Enough already!

[omega4179]

Jeb said he’s not running for martinez’ seat

[PurpleMan]

“true conservatives will never again accept another Bush.”

If true, then the “true conservatives” should stay and will stay defeated until they learn not to act like jilted-teenagers.

“Eeeeeeeeewe. His name is Bush. I’m never gonna like him.”

Welcome to the Stupid Party.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Jeb’s not running.

[Blogger]

I strongly believe in the Sovereignty of God. President Bush was who we were supposed to have for that particular time. I can’t imagine any President doing better in the immediate aftermath of 911 than W. Yes, his legacy is mixed and I’m disappointed in several of his decisions; but I’m not going mark him as a bad President and given the choice between him or Gore or Kerry, it would again be Bush every time.

[chainsaw]

No more Bushes!

I’d also like to see no more Kennedys and Clintons ever.

[waxer1]

Elections? Ha after this election you will never ever see another republican president anyway. So who cares?

Elections are a sham anyway. ie Obama, Frankin for goodness sakes.

[deport]

If Jeb then tries to run for president in 2012 or 2016, it will divide the GOP;

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Where’s loser John been?... The party has been divided for sometime now. Another Bush wouldn’t divide it any further but neither would another Bush bring it together.

[PurpleMan]

Waiting for the 2012/16 “Sovereignty of God” post:

I strongly believe in the Sovereignty of God. President Obama was who we were supposed to have for that particular time. I can’t imagine any President doing better in the immediate aftermath of the economic crisis than Barrack. Yes, his legacy is mixed and I’m disappointed in several of his decisions; but I’m not going mark him as a bad President and given the choice between him or McCain, it would again be Obama every time.

[Vaquero]

No more of these Globalist, Moderates. No more Bushes period.

Let him play in Florida if he wishes but thats it.

[Vaquero]

the Stupid party is the party that gives people like the Bushes or John McQueeg the nomination.

[capt. norm]

Where was Newsmax yesterday when Jeb said "NO" to running for the Senate?

I'm still waiting for them to post Obama's father's divorce decree that they had scheduled for Jan. 2nd.

For a news organizations they always manage to stay a day or so behind.

[G.Mason]

Two points ...

1) The Republican Party isn't divided, as much as it is (for all intents & purposes) dead.

2)"true conservatives" are unelectable in todays society.

[Tai_Chung]

There is another George Bush that may have a future in politics.

[xjcsa]

For a news organizations they always manage to stay a day or so behind.

Most of their stories are stories *about* news stories - just quoting extensively from a real reporter's work in another publication.

[raybbr]

There is another George Bush that may have a future in politics.

Not till after we merge with mexico. Jorge P. Bush would be a disaster of epic proportions.

[reagan_fanatic]

I’m sick to the bone of the Bushes. There’s plenty of other Republican leaders out there who are more than qualified to lead. It’s time for a break.

[TexasCajun]

I we need more Sarah Palins & Bobby Jindals!

Not more Juan MeCains & George Bushes.

[Cedric]

This thread is embarrassing.

Most of you are petulantly, arrogantly, narrow-mindedly, judging future candidates worthiness based on their last name.

Embarrassing.

[Froggie]

Because we got a 3rd clinton term is exactly why it might be possible for another Bush term. This country will be so fed up with the libs running things and the infighting between queen Nancy and that court jester Reid with bozo in the White House that voting for another Bush will be a blessing !

[AmericanInTokyo]

NO MORE BUSHES. Enough!

[AmericanInTokyo]

Let's put the issue to a democratic FR vote then.

Jim?

[MEGoody]

No need for people to get their panties in a twist. Jeb Bush is very unlikely to run for President, especially after seeing his brother raked over the coals repeatedly (and usually unfairly).

[pointsal]

If Florida wants old Jeb...keep him, but, for me, no more Bushes.

[MEGoody]

I strongly believe in the Sovereignty of God. President Obama was who we were supposed to have for that particular time.

I don't know about anyone else, but I absolutely do believe this. As a nation, we have turned our back on God, so He's letting us have just what we want. Obama is our self-chosen punishment.

No, of course many of us didn't vote for Obama. But by our lack of action, we deserve him as much as those who did vote for him.

[mcshot]

Yes, give us someone who will stand his ground, defend himself and even fight back. The apparent lack of caring leaves us run roughshod by the Libs and their media buddies who tear this Country and the peasants (us) apart. I want a kick a$$, fight back, conservative who fights like the life of his Country depends on it as it does.

[raybbr]

Most of you are petulantly, arrogantly, narrow-mindedly, judging future candidates worthiness based on their last name.

Oh, that's funny. The only reason they are considered is because of their last name.

Two Bushes and both have acted the same - as a quasi-socialist. Why would we think another one would be any different?

Do you feel the same way about the Kennedy or Clinton name?

[raybbr]

Let's put the issue to a democratic FR vote then. Jim?

That's a good idea.

Jim, feel like running a poll? "Would you vote for another Bush?"

Yes.

No. No more Bushes.

Jeb.

George P.

No way in Hades!

[TomGuy]

Jeb would be lucky to get as many Electoral Votes as McCain did in 08.

The Bush brand has lost significantly the last 4 years.

Jeb can thank his bro for that.

Jeb couldn’t get elected dog catcher outside Florida.

[HawaiianGecko]

If Cedric is correct that,  "Most of you are petulantly, arrogantly, narrow-mindedly, judging future candidates worthiness based on their last name", then why on Earth would you think talking a vote would reveal some future knowledge?  All it will disclose is that which is already known.

[TomGuy]

It is more like Father like Sons.

What is that definition of insanity? Voting for the same and expecting a different result.

Bush 1 burned us.

Bush 2 burned us again and again and again.

What is that definition of insanity?

[HawaiianGecko]

  I guess that should read "taking a vote" not "talking a vote" ...

[Right_in_Virginia]

I thought I read that Jeb has ruled out a Senate run.

[Will88]

The Bushes have never been anything but New England, country club Republicans. GHWB was known to be just one more such Republican, but he became “pro-life” and adopted other positions on issues to become Reagan’s VP. They are just more of that privileged class with inherited money and inherited position that never seems to go away, and they are about as Texan as the Kennedys.

One thing I read said that Prescott Bush was once treasurer of a major chapter of Planned Parenthood, also a businessman and he worked on Wall Street for a time. The Bushes are not conservatives and never have been, and never will be.

But the article makes a critical point: conservatives better settle on one candidate early in 2012, or we’ll again split the vote and end up with a RINO picked by Republicans in blue states that will never vote for the Republican nominee.

[org.whodat]

Jeb Bush will be the Bush most in the news in 2009 as he contemplates a U.S. Senate run in 2010. Jeb’s presence — yet another Bush! — will bedevil the GOP for years to come.

Nothing like old news, it was posted yesterday he was not running. No more bushes, EVER!!!

[org.whodat]

Meanwhile, bring on as many more Kennedy's as you can find.

Are you a Democrat???

[Cedric]

Why would we think another one would be any different?

That's the point: You're not thinking. You're mindlessly judging someone based on the performance of someone else.

[LibLieSlayer]

Pro illegal immigration and pro globull warming and anti-offshore drilling. You decide.

LLS

[Carley]

LeBout is the resident nutcase at NewsMax.

[Will88]

That's the point: You're not thinking. You're mindlessly judging someone based on the performance of someone else.

And all you're doing is playing the know-it-all and providing no discussion or evidence whatsoever to support your assertions that Jeb is any different.

[Cedric]

Pro illegal immigration and pro globull warming and anti-offshore drilling.

Now we're getting somewhere! Let's focus on where they stand on the issues.

[Cedric]

...your assertions that Jeb is any different.

Never said that.

Step-up your game.

[HawaiianGecko]

  "Bush 2 burned us again and again and again." 

Which part of the Bush 2 administration didn't you like?

• Keeping terrorism off of American soil
• Appointing Roberts and Allito
• Creating a democracy in the heart of the Middle East
• Banned Partial Birth Abortion
• Reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act.
• prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.
• Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
• Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
• Supports the Defense of Marriage Act — and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
• Requires states to conduct criminal background checks on prospective foster and adoptive parents.
• Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools.
• Requires schools to have a zero-tolerance policy for classroom disruption (reintroducing discipline into classrooms).
• Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline.
• Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.
• Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.
• Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.
• Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.
• Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.
• In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.
• Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.
• Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.
• Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.
• Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.
• Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
• Signed trade promotion authority.
• Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.
• Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.
• Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.
• Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.
• Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.
• Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.
• Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.
• Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.
• Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.
• Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.
• Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.
• Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.
• Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.
• Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.
• Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.
• Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.
• Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.
• Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.
• Saddam Hussein is now in dead. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
• Leader by leader and member by member, al Maida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaeda leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaeda leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.
• Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.
• Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network. 6. Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.
• Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
• Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.
• Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.
• Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
• Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.
• Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.
• Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.
• Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.
• Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.
• Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.
• Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.
• Ordered a review of overseas deployments.
• Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.
• Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.
• Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Thanks to Freeper Cincinatus' Wife for coming up with the vast majority of this list and keeping my carpal tunnel syndrome to a minimum.

[Will88]

Never said that.

LOl, all you're doing is trying to discredit others criticism of Jeb while providing absolutely no evidence that they are wrong in their criticism. Step up your game. You're nothing but a whiny member of the Peanut Gallery, always sniping at others while never providing evidence to support what you are clearly saying, without being straightforward enough to actually say it.