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Traditional fairytales 'not PC enough'
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 05 Jan 2009 | Graeme Paton

Posted on 01/07/2009 11:13:55 AM PST by Joiseydude

Favourites such as Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Cinderella and Rapunzel are being dropped by some families who fear children are being emotionally damaged.

A third of parents refused to read Little Red Riding Hood because she walks through woods alone and finds her grandmother eaten by a wolf.

One in 10 said Snow White should be re-named because "the dwarf reference is not PC".

Rapunzel was considered "too dark" and Cinderella has been dumped amid fears she is treated like a slave and forced to do all the housework.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: childrensliterature; fable; fairytales; orwelliannightmare; revisionisthistory; stalinisttactics; thereisnoenglandnow

1 posted on 01/07/2009 11:13:55 AM PST by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude

Good grief. Fairy tales ARE dark. But most children don’t see them that way unless parents present it like that. Like most things in life, if a parent sees that something upsets a child, then stop presenting it to them! Why try to prevent the rest of society from enjoying them?

Fairy tales are an important link to past history as well as revealing some universal fears and joys among people.


2 posted on 01/07/2009 11:17:52 AM PST by twigs
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To: Joiseydude

The old fairy tales were evolutions of ancient myths that expressed realities about human nature, abnormal psychology, practical economics and other truths that haven’t changed any since then. Fairy tales of the classic variety help prepare children to deal with the world as it is, not as the deluded fools who follow PC would like it to be. There are plenty of real oppressed and exploited Cinderellas out there, and wolves who eat grandmothers are unfortunately quite common. Et cetera.


3 posted on 01/07/2009 11:19:00 AM PST by Argus
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To: Joiseydude

Could someone please gather up all the knives and belts in the Western nations. They are on suicide watch.


4 posted on 01/07/2009 11:19:06 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I see that Kenya's favorite son has a new weekly Saturday morning radio show.)
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To: Joiseydude

5 posted on 01/07/2009 11:19:11 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Joiseydude

Cinderella has been dumped amid fears she is treated like a slave and forced to do all the housework.

Uh...that was the POINT of that story.

These people are idiots, aren’t they?


6 posted on 01/07/2009 11:19:37 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: Joiseydude

Oh. U.K. Not surprised, then.


7 posted on 01/07/2009 11:19:47 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Joiseydude

There’s one fairy tale that they forgot to mention.

Jack and the Bean Stalk.

How the big bad giant (government) tried to take Jack’s pot o gold he worked hard for.......

Protect us from idiocy.


8 posted on 01/07/2009 11:20:22 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: Joiseydude

If they think THOSE are bad, they should take a look at some of the Russian (translated) Fairy Tales I’ve been reading to my 7 year old son.

And he sleeps like a baby every night.


9 posted on 01/07/2009 11:22:18 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Joiseydude

......but you can be sure that Christian bashing tales like “The Golden Compass” will be protected.....


10 posted on 01/07/2009 11:22:29 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Joiseydude

I guess the libs have enough fairy tales about Obama to tell to their kids already.


11 posted on 01/07/2009 11:22:51 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: Joiseydude

“Almost 20 per cent of adults said they refused to read Hansel and Gretel because the children were abandoned in a forest..”

I’d rather be abandoned in a forest than a city. As a matter of fact, I try get abandoned in a forest as much as possible.


12 posted on 01/07/2009 11:22:59 AM PST by ZULU ( TRAPPED IN NEW JERSEY!!! Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Joiseydude
They must really have a problem with Dopey...AKA Obama.
13 posted on 01/07/2009 11:23:11 AM PST by 444Flyer ("Good sense is a thing all need, few have, and none think they want."-Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Joiseydude

sounds like a grimm situation


14 posted on 01/07/2009 11:24:22 AM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: raven92876

ping


15 posted on 01/07/2009 11:24:29 AM PST by stylecouncilor (I'm a loner Dottie; a rebel.)
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To: Joiseydude

A culture too weak for fairy tales. . . Chesterton had much good to say about fairy tales including the need for philosophers to be nurtured on them. Traditional fairy tales probably saved Chesterton from the skepticism of the Diabolist at Slade Art school.


16 posted on 01/07/2009 11:24:41 AM PST by conservativepoet (The chief aim of order within Christianity is to make room for good things to romp and play.)
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To: Joiseydude

Aesop’s fable about the ants and the grasshopper does not promote fairness and charity or economic justice.


17 posted on 01/07/2009 11:26:31 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: ZULU

Hansel and Gretel promotes obesity and the idea of snacking.


18 posted on 01/07/2009 11:27:23 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: o_zarkman44

fee fi fo fum, I smell the blood of an engishman......


19 posted on 01/07/2009 11:28:24 AM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: TheRightGuy

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Ugh.


20 posted on 01/07/2009 11:28:28 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: o_zarkman44

Jack was engaging in redistribution of wealth (the Giant’s goose laid the golden eggs).

Even Robin Hood was taking BACK the taxpayer’s money from Big Government.


21 posted on 01/07/2009 11:28:35 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: Joiseydude

An’ ol Brer Fox, every time he smack the Tar Baby, the stucker he got


22 posted on 01/07/2009 11:31:18 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of wafarin (it's working))
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To: Joiseydude

I think it is obvious that children thrive better when they feel safe. However, this is taking it too the extreme, to where these children may have no protection once they have to deal with other children to say the least. Sheltering children to this degree, I think will do more harm than good down the road. At some point they will hear of horrific things later is better than sooner, but having never even heard of horrifying things as are presented in fairy tales. I think will magnify the horror of real life situations. Children do get kidnapped and lured by people that want to do them harm. Hansel and Gretel warns of this. Some children are treated horribly by adults and several fairy tales point that out, it is usually the step mother, but no matter, they let children know the world isn’t all rainbows and butterflies. I have to also wonder if these kids are at all prepared for the rough and tumble other kids are more than capable of providing.


23 posted on 01/07/2009 11:32:04 AM PST by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: Joiseydude

We wouldn’t want children to learn life lessons, would we?


24 posted on 01/07/2009 11:34:18 AM PST by Feline_AIDS (Because canine AIDS ain't funny.)
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To: Joiseydude

I remember a story from a couple of years ago that my British husband and I still roll our eyes about. A town in the UK was putting on a show of Snow White and they changed the title to Snow White and the 7 Gnomes just to be PC.


25 posted on 01/07/2009 11:34:38 AM PST by elc
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26 posted on 01/07/2009 11:35:39 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: weegee

And I guess the Big Bad Wolf is an unfair stereotype.

There was a great book I have called “Politically Correct Fairy Tails”.

I think these clowns would enjoy it to read to their children but the irony and sarcasm would be lost on them.

Liberals have very small braincases - generally.


27 posted on 01/07/2009 11:37:01 AM PST by ZULU ( TRAPPED IN NEW JERSEY!!! Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Joiseydude
I have several books of Fairy Tales that were old when they were passed to me as a child. They were dark and violent and I loved reading them - and still read them now and then. The art work in many of them is beautiful in a creepy Edward Gorey way.

Who could forget the vain girl getting her feet chopped off by the kindly wood cutter in The Red Shoes (at her request, after learning humility)? Or Sleeping Beauty being cursed with death by spinning wheel while in her crib (amended to a long sleep by someone else)? Good stuff. And what happened to me from reading all those violent tales?

I grew up to be a Conservative!

28 posted on 01/07/2009 11:45:49 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Joiseydude
Haven't they already been turned PC enough? I don't remember Cinderella's half sisters chopping off bits of their feet to fit the shoe in Disney's version.
29 posted on 01/07/2009 11:49:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: Feline_AIDS
We wouldn’t want children to learn life lessons, would we?

So after sanitizing the fairy tales, removing grading from schoolrooms, giving a prize to everyone who plays a game (no trophy to just one winner), telling every child that they are special, shielding them from disappointment and filling their heads with entitlement...

...they go out into the real world much like Hansel and Gretel in that forest, completely unprepared and unaware.
30 posted on 01/07/2009 11:50:56 AM PST by LostInBayport (The press and the Barackolytes view you as a miracle worker...so turn the economy into wine, Barry.)
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To: twigs

sitting here shaking my head, i believe these people get up every morning and the first thing they do is tke their stupid pills .........


31 posted on 01/07/2009 11:51:13 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: Joiseydude

I’m not surprised. Even old Disney movies aren’t PC enough for this crowd.


32 posted on 01/07/2009 11:52:08 AM PST by Bookbuck
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To: weegee
Aesop’s fable about the ants and the grasshopper does not promote fairness and charity or economic justice.

OLD VERSION . . .

The ant works hard, in the withering heat, all summer long. He builds his house and stores supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks that the ant is a fool. He laughs, dances and plays the summer away, preparing nothing for the coming winter.

Winter comes, the ant is safe and warm. The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

The moral to the story being: BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURSELF!

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NEW VERSION

The ant works hard, in the withering heat, all summer long. He builds his house and stores supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks that the ant is a fool. He laughs, dances and plays the summer away, preparing nothing for the coming winter.

Winter comes, the ant is safe and warm. The shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and fed, while others are cold and starving!

CBS, NBC, ABC & CNN show up to provide pictures of shivering grasshoppers, next to a video of an ant in his comfortable home, with a table filled with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast! How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer this way?

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah, with the grasshopper. Everyone cries when they sing "It's Not Easy Being Green".

Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house, where the news stations film the group singing "We Shall Overcome". Jesse then has the group pray for the grasshopper's sake, and reminds the group to contribute to his group, so that he can "continue the fight" for grasshoppers, everywhere!

Ted Kennedy & John Kerry exclaim, in an interview with Tom Brokaw, that the ant has gotten rich, off the back of the poor grasshopper! Both call for an immediate tax hike, to make the ant pay "his fair share"!

Finally, the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity For Grasshoppers Act", retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The ant is fined for failing to hire the proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his house is confiscated by the government.

Hillary Clinton gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper, in a defamation suit against the ant. The case is tried in federal court, with a jury comprised of unemployed welfare recipients.

Surprise! The ant loses the case!

The story ends, as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food, while the government house he lives in (which happens to be the ant's old house) crumbles around him, due to lack of maintenance!

The ant has disappeared in the snow. The grasshopper is found, dead, in a drug-related incident. The house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders, who terrorize this once-peaceful neighborhood.

The moral of this version? Don't vote for Democrats or liberals.

33 posted on 01/07/2009 11:52:44 AM PST by kennedy (I'm a Kennedy with no experience or qualifications too! Where do I sign up for MY Senate seat?)
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To: kennedy
CBS, NBC, ABC & CNN show up to provide pictures of shivering grasshoppers, next to a video of an ant in his comfortable home, with a table filled with food.

A few years back, my mom emailed this "New Version" to all her friends. One friend's son, a liberal arts PhD, was highly offended and replied-all back to chastise my mom and whine about racism and oppression of the poor and perpetually lazy. How could my mom be so cruel? These people were kept down by da white man (and this was a white guy).

Fast forward a few years and his daughter was expelled from a very snooty school for building pipe bombs.

I really had some schadenfreude over that one!

34 posted on 01/07/2009 11:59:46 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: twigs

Next they’ll be going after “Bugs Bunny” cartoons. Can’t have stories working on multiple levels, y’know. Too subversive!


35 posted on 01/07/2009 12:01:51 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Feline_AIDS
Actually, the Reds want our children to learn DIFFERENT life lessons:


36 posted on 01/07/2009 12:06:53 PM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

You didn’t catnap our cat today, did you? Looks just like ours, although our PC is maybe the one thing she hasn’t gotten into!


37 posted on 01/07/2009 12:12:06 PM PST by twigs
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To: elc

I heard that the word “ninja” is verboten in England and that they were called The Teenaged Mutant HERO Turtles over there.


38 posted on 01/07/2009 12:13:00 PM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: twigs

Give ‘r time!


39 posted on 01/07/2009 12:13:26 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

I’m just imagining my husband responding to a cat-infested computer. Not sure he would survive it!


40 posted on 01/07/2009 12:17:40 PM PST by twigs
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To: Argus
"But it was much earlier even than that when most people forgot that the very oldest stories are, sooner or later, about blood. Later on they took the blood out to make the stories more acceptable to children, or at least to the people who had to read them to children rather than the children themselves (who, on the whole, are quite keen on blood provided it's being shed by the deserving*), and then wondered where the stories went." - Terry Pratchett

("* That is to say, those who deserve to shed blood. Or possibly not. You never quite know with some kids.")

41 posted on 01/07/2009 2:19:24 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule." - H L Mencken.)
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