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Botched raid costs Minneapolis $600,000
Star Tribuen ^ | 13 December, 2008 | NORMAN DRAPER, a nd S TEVE BRANDT

Posted on 01/07/2009 8:07:02 PM PST by marktwain

A family whose lives were shattered by a mistaken police raid a year ago have been awarded a $612,498 settlement by the city of Minneapolis to make amends.

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"It's only a mistake for them, but it changed our lives forever," Moua said Friday at a news conference held at Heffelfinger's office. "We want what's best for our children. It's a miracle we survived that night. No amount of money can fix what we went through that night."

Acting on wrong information from an informant, a SWAT team broke into Vang Khang's north Minneapolis house last December expecting to find gang members and illegal activity.

But Vang thought the SWAT team members were criminal intruders and shot through his bedroom door to protect his wife and six children, ages 3 to 15. Three officers were hit, but were not injured because they were wearing protective gear. The family also escaped injury even though police fired at least 22 rounds.

Police later admitted that the raid was a mistake and apologized to the family. Heffelfinger said police, who were looking for black suspects, should have realized that a Hmong family resided at the home, at 1321 Logan Av. N., because of various Hmong-related "ornaments and other things" both on the outside and inside of the house.

Moua said Friday her children are still afraid of the police. She said she is trying to turn that around, to make them to believe that most police officers are good and are there to help, rather than harm.

"I told them not all police are bad," she said. "I don't want my kids to be afraid of the police."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
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A very important case. The Vangs used armed resistance to defend themselves against the police, and not only survived, but are being compensated.
1 posted on 01/07/2009 8:07:03 PM PST by marktwain
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2 posted on 01/07/2009 8:10:55 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: marktwain
Been through a swat raid, though not as dramatic as this one.

The cops denied it ever happened.

But that was in Florida, 20 years ago. Civil rights have come along way since then.

3 posted on 01/07/2009 8:13:00 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: bamahead

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4 posted on 01/07/2009 8:14:30 PM PST by KoRn
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To: marktwain

This type of settlement should happen every time the wrong house is invaded by the paramilitary police. The amount should double for every killed family pet.


5 posted on 01/07/2009 8:16:35 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: marktwain
She said ... most police officers are good ...

Be nice if there was a sure-fire way to tell the difference.

6 posted on 01/07/2009 8:18:11 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

“This type of settlement should happen every time the wrong house is invaded by the paramilitary police. The amount should double for every killed family pet.”


Yes. It appears that this is the only way we will get the “no knock” raids under control. The “war on drugs” has done a great deal of harm to our right to be safe in our houses and persons in this country.


7 posted on 01/07/2009 8:19:59 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Wow, that's a story. It is miraculous that almost 30 rounds went down range and no one was killed. Something's got to be done about these no-knock warrants. Things are getting out of hand.

Incidentally, am I the only one who didn't know what a "Hmong" family is?

8 posted on 01/07/2009 8:20:26 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: RobinOfKingston

Wonder what would have happened if the home owner opened fire on the police with an AK47 and killed them all?


9 posted on 01/07/2009 8:22:47 PM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: marktwain

There is something particularly sweet about living rural and having an acquaintance with those might be called upon to raid a given home. Barring an incursion by Hussein Obama’s (as yet to be inaugurated) Civil Security Force, I feel safe.


10 posted on 01/07/2009 8:23:31 PM PST by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental illness)
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To: Big_Monkey
Incidentally, am I the only one who didn't know what a “Hmong” family is?

The Hmong in the U.S. are the refugees and descendants of same who were our allies in the just and honorable fight against the world communist threat in Vietnam. We lost that battle, but won the cold war.

The Hmong are still with us, and are not pacifists.

11 posted on 01/07/2009 8:24:20 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Heffelfinger said police, who were looking for black suspects, should have realized that a Hmong family resided at the home... because of various Hmong-related "ornaments and other things"

So the police should have racially profiled a typical 'Hmong' vs. a typical 'black' family?

Sounds to me that the compensation is fair and if it can be proved that the informant was purposefully deceptive to the police, then he should be charged.

12 posted on 01/07/2009 8:25:48 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: marktwain

Hmmm. Good to know. I’m a little embarrassed that I have never heard the word before.


13 posted on 01/07/2009 8:26:44 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey
It is miraculous that almost 30 rounds went down range and no one was killed. Something's got to be done ...

More range time, perhaps?

14 posted on 01/07/2009 8:28:29 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Big_Monkey

The Hmong were the mountain tribes in Vietnam. They were hunters and gatherers, and practiced small agriculture.


15 posted on 01/07/2009 8:29:47 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Well the newest case will probably be more. And the killing of the kid in oakland is going to cost millions!
16 posted on 01/07/2009 8:32:30 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Big_Monkey
It was a ‘Hmong That killed all the hunters last year for no reason, other than it was he that was trespassing. But has nothing to do with this case.
17 posted on 01/07/2009 8:35:26 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Big_Monkey

Sounds like the A Team.


18 posted on 01/07/2009 9:05:27 PM PST by PoliticalDookie
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To: Big_Monkey

I heard the word before...last time was about 30 yrs. ago. Yikes, dating myself.


19 posted on 01/07/2009 9:27:34 PM PST by Rennes Templar (The Messiah and the Religion of Fleece)
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To: marktwain
There are a lot of Hmongs in the Central Valley of California. Nice folks, mostly, except for the thug types who are in gangs.

One Hmong-run fruit stand has THE best strawberries in the spring.

20 posted on 01/07/2009 9:34:00 PM PST by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
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To: marktwain

The Hmong lived - and still do live - primarily in Laos and southern China, and were greatly helpful in what was then called “The Secret War” waged against the communist Pathet Lao, contemporaneous with the war in Vietnam. The hill tribes of Vietnam were referred to under the collective rubric “Montagnards.”


21 posted on 01/08/2009 12:56:30 AM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Othniel

I wonder if they use human fertilizer on the strawberries. ;0)


22 posted on 01/08/2009 3:54:57 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Jack Hammer

Thank you for the clarification.


23 posted on 01/08/2009 4:36:17 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The Vangs used armed resistance to defend themselves against the police, and not only survived, but are being compensated.

...by the taxpayers, unfortunately.

24 posted on 01/08/2009 4:39:51 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: marktwain

How galling that the police awarded eight medals for this screwed up raid.

No knock raids are out of control, and we have out of control paramilitary police just chomping at the bit to play with their new taxpayer supplied toys.

And for what benefit? If anyone compiled all of the innocent victims of these raids we would see the insidious nature and stupidity of the whole concept.

The Fourth Amendment used to mean something.

BTW, the Hmongs are featured prominently in the new Clint Eastwood film, “Gran Torino”.


25 posted on 01/08/2009 4:47:46 AM PST by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: marktwain

The award should be supplemented by a 20% share of the earnings for everyone who organized, authorized, of participated in the raid, for the rest of their lives, including future careers and pensions.

That kind of culpability might make a real difference in this enthusiastically mindless storm trooper behavior. Picking a buck from the pockets of each other resident of the City won’t make much difference.


26 posted on 01/08/2009 5:58:28 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: seemoAR
WOOF!
27 posted on 01/08/2009 8:14:00 AM PST by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
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To: Edizzl79

There was a case somewhat like this a few years ago, I believe in Michigan. The homeowner defended himself and killed one of the invading officers. He was acquitted, and the cops were angry about it.


28 posted on 01/08/2009 10:08:18 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why do I find the Toyota "Saved by Zero" ads so ironic?)
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To: RobinOfKingston
Be nice if there was a sure-fire way to tell the difference.

Easy. Look at the cop

If it's Harvey Keitel or Al Pacino, then = bad cop

If it's Ethan Hawke or Colin Farrel then = good cop.

If you are not in a movie, then you're on your own.

29 posted on 01/08/2009 10:32:37 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: Big_Monkey

it’s ok . you’re Hmong friends here.


30 posted on 01/08/2009 10:39:26 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

nothing like a good pun...

and that was nothing like a good pun...

LOL


31 posted on 01/08/2009 2:46:40 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: teeman8r

it was pretty Laosy


32 posted on 01/08/2009 3:13:14 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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