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Congress to Certify Electoral College Vote Today - LIVE discussion thread
Free Republic Discussion Thread for Breaking News ^ | 1/8/2009 | Freepers

Posted on 01/08/2009 6:21:34 AM PST by Jack Black

Freepers today is the big day. I'm assuming it's going to be on C-SPAN. I did not find a discussion thread so I'm starting one for us.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; congress; constitution; electionpresident; electoralcollege; electoralvote; livethread; obama
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1 posted on 01/08/2009 6:21:35 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

I doubt anything will happen...despite the hope we all share that there will be one decent man left in Washington. They’ve all sold their souls to be in DC, no one is going to weather the “racism” charge and vote against certification.


2 posted on 01/08/2009 6:23:28 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan (My mom thinks I need religion, I think I need a shower and something to eat.)
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To: Jack Black

I bet someone challenges the count, just one person.


3 posted on 01/08/2009 6:24:28 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: Jack Black

The day the Republic died................


4 posted on 01/08/2009 6:25:37 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Jack Black

5 posted on 01/08/2009 6:28:36 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Jack Black

Today is also the decision from the WA Supreme Court regarding whether to hear the Broe v Reed case.


6 posted on 01/08/2009 6:34:33 AM PST by LongIslandConservative
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To: LongIslandConservative; LucyT; STARWISE; Calpernia; maggief
Good morning bump.
Maggie F has already made my day with this post:

See chicago Crime thread for the link and more information

Chicago Crime

During Roland Burris’ first full fiscal year as Illinois attorney general, more than half of the money his office awarded for outside legal work went to campaign contributors, according to a book published by Illinois Issues magazine and the Springfield State Journal-Register.

In FY 1992, Burris’ office issued roughly $4 million in outside legal contracts to individuals and law firms, according to the book, Illinois For Sale, which was published in 1997. More than $2.25 million of that amount went to contributors to Burris’ campaign or to the main Democratic fundraising committee.

None of the outside legal contracts were required to be put out for bids by competing law firms. Burris’ office was allowed to award the contracts without consideration over whether the state received the best price for the legal work.

7 posted on 01/08/2009 6:44:20 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Eye of Unk

I’ve read that some member from Gerogia is going to question bambi’s ineligibility.


8 posted on 01/08/2009 6:46:23 AM PST by jackv (Just shakin' my head!!)
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To: jackv

make that Georgia


9 posted on 01/08/2009 6:47:04 AM PST by jackv (Just shakin' my head!!)
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To: Red Badger

“This is how Liberty dies — with thunderous applause.”


10 posted on 01/08/2009 6:53:14 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: jackv

I was hoping an elector from Alaska naturally.

We will just have to wait and see I suppose.

Picturing a scenario of what if, how would the MSM react?

My guess is they will go into shock mode with constant Red Alerts on faux.

If there was a contested scenario it could also open up other fracture scenarios, it could turn the tide in as such as the MSM going into shark feeding frenzy.


11 posted on 01/08/2009 6:54:52 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: SolidWood

They are cheering for the enslavement of their own children............


12 posted on 01/08/2009 6:59:15 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Jack Black

F-A-R-C-E


13 posted on 01/08/2009 7:02:30 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (The Big 3 Auto Makers - Where Attention to Kwality is Jobe Won.)
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To: jackv

I had read somewhere that Ron Paul was going to.


14 posted on 01/08/2009 7:11:38 AM PST by TheBigIf (Supre)
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To: jackv
"I’ve read that some member from Georgia is going to question bambi’s ineligibility."

An objection will require at least 1 Senator and 1 Representative to object in writing. Even this will only delay the result for 2 hours while the houses separate and vote down ANY objection to the ONE.
15 posted on 01/08/2009 7:15:03 AM PST by Visceral (The more I learn, the less I know)
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To: Eye of Unk

Challenge the count? We need someone to request documents verifying he is eligible to be POTUS.


16 posted on 01/08/2009 7:19:34 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Jack Black

On Elivis’ Birthday No Less!


17 posted on 01/08/2009 7:30:01 AM PST by Vendome
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To: Jack Black

Link for the cubicle bound. It starts at 1:00 pm ET.

http://www.c-span.org/

My morning fantasy: Cheney questions Obama’s eligibility to become POTUS!


18 posted on 01/08/2009 7:35:14 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

I predict we’ll have one Congressman attempt to object and it will be ignored by the speaker as if no one said anything.


19 posted on 01/08/2009 7:36:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

I hope one will....if for no other reason than to make a symbolic stand...and give me hope that a spinalectomy isn’t performed on everyone who enters DC.


20 posted on 01/08/2009 7:37:34 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan (My mom thinks I need religion, I think I need a shower and something to eat.)
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To: Jack Black

Harry the Body Odor is speaking on senate floor now...CSPAN 2. Talking about Gaza.


21 posted on 01/08/2009 7:39:27 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

I hope whoever steps up will run for President in 2013.


22 posted on 01/08/2009 7:41:11 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Jack Black

Views: 96,897

Still under 100,000 views on this AD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYdk26ezVio

We need 1 million BEFORE 1pm


23 posted on 01/08/2009 7:41:44 AM PST by davidosborne (Is Obama a Natural Born U.S. Citizen or not ??)
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To: Eye of Unk
I bet someone challenges the count, just one person.

One person doesn't cut it. There has to be at least one congressman and one senator to issue a challange. Then it goes to both houses to debate and vote. When the Democrats issued a challenge to the Ohio vote in 2004 it took Congress maybe an hour and a half to vote the challenge down.

24 posted on 01/08/2009 7:46:52 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Jack Black

Oh, goody. Now we can have four years of arguments that Obama isn’t a citizen.


25 posted on 01/08/2009 7:50:25 AM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: jackv

I hope he also questions Bambi’s eligibility.


26 posted on 01/08/2009 7:51:00 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: popdonnelly

Now we can have four years of arguments that Obama isn’t a citizen.

We had eight years of dems and msm CONSTANTLY running Bush down. It was a good strategy, it worked. Constant relentless pressure.

So why not have four years of constant, negative pressure on a dem president?

Doubt his eligibility just like they did with W, he was SE-lected, remember? And blame The0ne for everything, especially things he has no authority or control over. Constantly accuse him of egregious violations of rights and unconstitutional acts.

That’s what republicans and conservatives put up with, and I think it had a lot of success, so lets do what we know works!


27 posted on 01/08/2009 7:56:13 AM PST by Ender Wiggin
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To: Orange1998
I hope whoever steps up will run for President in 2013.

Will they announce before or after we inaugurate the winner of the 2012 presidential election?

28 posted on 01/08/2009 7:58:05 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: davidosborne
>> Views: 96,897

Is that working? I just viewed the video for the first time, refreshed my page and it's still reporting the same number of views.
29 posted on 01/08/2009 7:58:53 AM PST by NeverEVERKerry
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To: Jack Black

bttt


30 posted on 01/08/2009 8:02:28 AM PST by sneakers
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To: NeverEVERKerry; davidosborne
>> Views: 96,897

Is that working? I just viewed the video for the first time, refreshed my page and it's still reporting the same number of views.

Shows the same for me too.

31 posted on 01/08/2009 8:12:29 AM PST by pattty (Providing services to terrorists violates executive orders 12947 and 13224.)
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To: pattty

Same here. It must be broken or hacked.


32 posted on 01/08/2009 8:31:11 AM PST by freebird5850 (O-Bomb-a, the sleeper cell that slipped by all of us.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Oops! Any who, one year will be lost due to the B.C. scandal. :)
33 posted on 01/08/2009 8:38:58 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: freebird5850

I don’t think it’s updated in real time. It’s up to ~97,500.


34 posted on 01/08/2009 8:57:36 AM PST by nominal (Christus dominus. Christus veritas.)
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To: Jack Black
I don't know whether to start flying my American flag upside down today or wait for the inauguration.
35 posted on 01/08/2009 8:59:51 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Jack Black

Looks like I picked a good day to wear black.


36 posted on 01/08/2009 9:03:32 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Don't blame me, I voted for Vaclav Klaus.)
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To: Eye of Unk

of a Non-natural Born Citizen

not qualified to be President

an Illegal Election


37 posted on 01/08/2009 9:08:28 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: hoosiermama

It’s the Chicago Way...you know!


38 posted on 01/08/2009 9:18:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: pattty; NeverEVERKerry; davidosborne

That ad is on YouTube. Google owns YouTube. Google backed 0. YouTube is partisan.


39 posted on 01/08/2009 9:21:06 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: jackv; pissant; cripplecreek; CaribouCrossing; LucyT; MHGinTN; little jeremiah; Polarik; Kevmo

I’ve been on both GA senators Chambliss and Isakson for months – pre election, eligibility verification, state elector contact, SCOTUS, congressional eligibility challenges – you name it.
Both have sent back canned BS replies - in Saxby’s case, he also responded as if I wanted tickets to BO’s @#$%^&* inauguration!! Dumb SOB
Both hang their hats on statements from HI authorities without bothering to analyze the wording of said statements.
I thought these elected officials were supposed to be master wordsmiths. Certainly the quantity of oral diarrhea they provide would indicate a passing familiarity with the english language.
But NOOO...
Far as I’m concerned, neither they nor their staffs are worth a pound of peach pi$$
And I’ll be actively looking for alternatives in the future. Hell – I’ve got a darn yard cat that is more (intelligently) responsive than these clowns.


40 posted on 01/08/2009 9:28:37 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: LtKerst
Just an observation…

Notice how in the Lightfoot v Bowen (Dr Orly) case, “Application (08XXXX) referred to the Court” is the LAST Order in that case, unlike other SCOTUS cases challenging Obama. Donofrio’s & Wrotnowski’s cases are slightly similar as well, with denied writ applications but pending cases. A clerical mess-up or something else?

Docket info is below, and snipped for brevity. For the full timeline, just copy and paste the docket number here for each case for more details: http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/docket.html

One possible reason would be based upon the theory that the SCOTUS is awaiting a true Constitutional “Cause of Action.” This may be either the Jan. 8 counting of the Electoral College votes or Inauguration Day. Incidentally, the Inauguration Day on Jan. 20 is the only Constitutional-mandated date associated with the President (except Election Day); all other dates fall under USC Title 3.

No. 08A524

Title:

Gail Lightfoot, et al., Applicants

v.

Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State

Docketed:

Lower Ct:

Supreme Court of California

 

  Case Nos.:

(S168690)

 

Jan 7 2009

DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 23, 2009.

Jan 7 2009

Application (08A524) referred to the Court.



No. 08-570

Title:

Philip J. Berg, Petitioner

v.

Barack Obama, et al.

Docketed:

October 31, 2008

Lower Ct:

United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit

 

  Case Nos.:

(08-4340)

Rule 11

 

Dec 23 2008

Application (08A505) referred to the Court.

Dec 23 2008

DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 16, 2009.

 

No. 08A505

Title:

Philip J. Berg, Applicant

v.

Barack Obama, et al.

Docketed:

Lower Ct:

United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit

 

  Case Nos.:

(08-4340)

 

Dec 23 2008

Application (08A505) referred to the Court.

Dec 23 2008

DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 16, 2009.

 

No. 08A407

Title:

Leo C. Donofrio, Applicant

v.

Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State

Docketed:

Lower Ct:

Supreme Court of New Jersey

 

  Case Nos.:

(AM-0153-08T2 at the New Jersey Appellate Division without a docket number)

 

Nov 19 2008

DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 5, 2008.

Nov 19 2008

Application (08A407) referred to the Court by Justice Thomas.

Nov 26 2008

Supplemental brief of applicant Leo C. Donofrio filed. (Distributed)

Dec 1 2008

Letter from applicant dated November 22, 2008, received.

Dec 8 2008

Application (08A407) denied by the Court.

 

No. 08A469

Title:

Cort Wrotnowski, Applicant

v.

Susan Bysiewicz, Connecticut Secretary of State

Docketed:

Lower Ct:

Supreme Court of Connecticut

 

  Case Nos.:

(SC 18264)

 

Dec 8 2008

DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 12, 2008.

Dec 8 2008

Application (08A469) referred to the Court by Justice Scalia.

Dec 9 2008

Supplemental brief of applicant Cort Wrotnowski filed. (Distributed)

Dec 15 2008

Application (08A469) denied by the Court.


41 posted on 01/08/2009 9:29:25 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Jack Black

C-Span 1 Coverage beginning now...
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx


42 posted on 01/08/2009 10:05:24 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: hoosiermama
Look at it this way. White collar crime will be down in Chicago/Illinois because there all in Washington. Good for Illinois bad for The U.S.A.!
43 posted on 01/08/2009 10:09:38 AM PST by jarofants
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To: All

When might we see a challenge?


44 posted on 01/08/2009 10:14:13 AM PST by jacquej
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To: jacquej

“On January 8, 2009, both the U.S. Senate and House shall meet for the purpose of counting and certifying the electoral votes. After the vote has been counted, the President of the Senate shall call for objections. It is at this time that federal officials in both the House and Senate may object to the certification of President-elect Obama by alleging that he fails to meet the constitutional requirements to serve as President of the United States.”


45 posted on 01/08/2009 10:16:06 AM PST by nominal (Christus dominus. Christus veritas.)
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To: BP2

OK...GIve it to us again in layman terms.


46 posted on 01/08/2009 10:17:34 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Jack Black

So Georgia tanked it.
My personal pos’s - isakson and Chamblis

I wish those in the chamber NO SLEEP for the rest of time.
(barring of course some surprise)
Hell - I’ve got to find an island to move to.
Opps - I already live on one.
Maybe georgia will miss me in the census count.


47 posted on 01/08/2009 10:18:45 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: nominal

Thank you so much, nominal.

There is still time for one brave soul to object, and I pray he/she will do so.


48 posted on 01/08/2009 10:22:37 AM PST by jacquej
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To: jacquej

That’s the only thing I’m hoping for. At least ONE person with enough guts to at least broach the subject. I’m not under any misconception of hope that it will change today’s outcome in certifying the vote, but if at least ONE Representative, or Senator brings it up at least it’ll be in the record.


49 posted on 01/08/2009 10:26:32 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: jacquej

I’m not sure of the order of things. Right now we are in the state by state call out of electoral votes. When this is over might be the time that someone could object. I’m not sure that it would take place “by the state”.

Ha ha, big joke about Ohio being “regular in form and authentic” (because Bush didn’t steal it this time doncha know).


50 posted on 01/08/2009 10:26:39 AM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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