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CA Officials Move Aggressively Against Goat Farmer and Mother of 3 to Prevent Her Earning a Living
The Complete Patient ^ | January 8, 2009 | David E. Gumpert

Posted on 01/09/2009 6:22:04 AM PST by davidgumpert

On the morning of December 18, a week before Christmas, a woman showed up at Sharon Palmer’s Healthy Family Farms in Santa Paula, CA, wanting to purchase some goat cheese—for an upcoming holiday party, she said. What happened next was that Sharon found herself in serious trouble, though there are two versions of exactly how she got there...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; goats; milk; palmer; ventura
Ventura County officials moved aggressively against a local goat farmer, arresting her, and preventing her from selling product. Now she wonders how she can support her three young children. Her crime? It seems to have something to do with not having a pasteurizer in a new facility she had just moved to, and hadn't even begun using. The case is in the hands of a DA, but already the punishment seems way out of proportion to any crime.
1 posted on 01/09/2009 6:22:06 AM PST by davidgumpert
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To: davidgumpert
I think the family farmers need a national legal defense fund, like the homeschoolers. It's bad when the gov't wants to protect people from acquiring their own food in any way they want.

Food Freedom!!!

2 posted on 01/09/2009 6:27:13 AM PST by elk
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To: elk
This isn't about safety. It's about control.

L

3 posted on 01/09/2009 6:30:52 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: davidgumpert

Food nazis............


4 posted on 01/09/2009 6:32:04 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: davidgumpert

Is the sheriff of Ventura county elected? If so, perhaps we can find a candidate to opposed him.


5 posted on 01/09/2009 6:32:58 AM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: davidgumpert

Two questions spring to mind:

1. What developer wants her land?
2. Who did she not pay off?


6 posted on 01/09/2009 6:33:39 AM PST by sticker
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To: davidgumpert
How sad! This reminds me of the siege at Mt Carmel in Waco, TX!
7 posted on 01/09/2009 6:35:11 AM PST by BellStar (Please God give us another Chance!)
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To: davidgumpert

I was probably about 9 years old before I had my first drink of pasteurized or processed milk. We were raised on raw milk and home made butter. Getting the first cold glass with all the cream laying on top was a real treat.


8 posted on 01/09/2009 6:40:23 AM PST by Graycliff (Long haired freaky people, need not apply.)
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To: elk
I think the family farmers are going to be as big as the WWII Victory gardeners soon if things go like I suspect they will. All of us who have any land like a back yard will be family farmers soon. Hope this is not what we will all be facing.
9 posted on 01/09/2009 6:42:23 AM PST by BellStar (Please God give us another Chance!)
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To: davidgumpert
Sometime early on December 18, the stranger I mentioned at the start of this post appeared at the farm, seemingly very anxious to purchase goat cheese. Knowing that her dairy’s license prohibited retail sales and limited her to selling her cheeses only at farmers markets, Sharon refused the request. When the woman persisted, talking about the upcoming holiday gathering, Sharon decided to give the woman two pounds of cheese, and refused to take payment.

F***ing entrapment is her reward for trying to be nice to someone. Way to take down a big crime lord, Mother Government.

10 posted on 01/09/2009 6:50:30 AM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: MSF BU

The local sheriff is actually a pretty good guy. But things like this happen occasionally and they need to be corrected. But don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.


11 posted on 01/09/2009 6:50:36 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: BellStar

A good read is Joel Salatin’s Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal. He correctly spanks both Dem and Repub on the oppresive rules against selling food to a neighbor. It’s on local and federal levels.


12 posted on 01/09/2009 6:51:36 AM PST by elk
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To: Red Badger
a detective from the Agricultural Crimes Unit == Food Nazi.

Glad CA has money for this kind of shit but is going hat in hand to the Feds to ask for my money as a resident of a different state. I've had it with these GD commies! Between this and the new lead regulations that are driving second-hand stores out of business, our gov't is truly becoming the enemy.

13 posted on 01/09/2009 6:53:06 AM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: Graycliff

“.....I was probably about 9 years old before I had my first drink of pasteurized or processed milk....”

I was about 18. One has not lived until one has milked a cow and enjoyed fresh whole milk. My momma strained the milk through an old flour sack to remove hairs and other foreign matter.


14 posted on 01/09/2009 6:53:37 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Lurker
It's about control.

Correct.

15 posted on 01/09/2009 6:57:11 AM PST by TankerKC (Lately I miss the Y2K kooks.)
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To: thecabal

If I want to drink milk right from the cow or goat, and I have, what damn business is it for the government?....oh, yeah, the REAL DAIRY (Big Milk!) companies contribute to the right political campaigns to squash the little guys..........


16 posted on 01/09/2009 6:58:01 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Lurker

L, they’re rapidly trying to push us past that awkward stage...

Yes, indeed, everything about the left is about controlling others.

Ironically, they say they are “liberal”, as in, “liberty loving”. It is the conservative that wants everyone to make their choices, and to individually experience the consequences of those choices, causing self regulation with no need of government.


17 posted on 01/09/2009 7:00:39 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Red Badger

Is the water boiling yet????


18 posted on 01/09/2009 7:02:38 AM PST by roofer13
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To: davidgumpert

You vill Pastoorize the cheeze und you vill like it.


19 posted on 01/09/2009 7:04:18 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: roofer13

Funny you mention water. I bet there is absolutely no reason she can’t sell bottled water out of her well at $1 a pint and NO REQUIREMENTS FOR CLEANLINESS OR PURITY!...........


20 posted on 01/09/2009 7:07:41 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

If he is a pretty good guy why did he allow his deputies to participate in this travesty?


21 posted on 01/09/2009 7:11:19 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

Sometimes when I let my guard down,I feel like Taps is playing for the USA.


22 posted on 01/09/2009 7:14:28 AM PST by roofer13
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To: roofer13

I’m about three years from retirement. I’m getting real worried!


23 posted on 01/09/2009 7:17:19 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

Im 57,have quite a few friends in that boat.Are the good times really over.


24 posted on 01/09/2009 7:21:11 AM PST by roofer13
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To: roofer13

Have you been planning for it?


25 posted on 01/09/2009 7:22:22 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

No.Work till I die.Took my retirement at the start.Discharged in 73,took some time off to get my self squared away.Daughter in graduate school,son starts collage this fall.Miles to go before I sleep.


26 posted on 01/09/2009 7:32:25 AM PST by roofer13
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To: roofer13

You have two choices...
1. Buy land outright and learn to plant what you eat..
2. Get measured for the blue wally world vest.


27 posted on 01/09/2009 7:37:56 AM PST by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: Colvin
Already own some.My own buisnesses also.
28 posted on 01/09/2009 7:43:14 AM PST by roofer13
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Arresting her was totally out of line. The story makes it sound like a set up. He (the sheriff) might be a good guy at a barbeque, but he is charge and probably had something to do with putting her in cuffs. I don’t have an opinion on the charges, just the nazi behavior of the sheriffs department, but the story still lacks details.


29 posted on 01/09/2009 7:56:46 AM PST by mefistofelerevised
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To: roofer13

I feel for you. Both my kids graduated, did it on their own mostly. I helped a little but let them carry most of the load themselves.


30 posted on 01/09/2009 8:00:26 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

This is the life I chose.Please.I do well!!!


31 posted on 01/09/2009 8:03:09 AM PST by roofer13
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To: Red Badger

Yes sir, you got it. State Capitalism at its finest.


32 posted on 01/09/2009 8:04:31 AM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: roofer13

Probably better than most. I have friends who have no plans other than social security.


33 posted on 01/09/2009 8:04:52 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Colvin
Funny you should mention food,I am expanding my garden today.Spring is rite around the corner.
34 posted on 01/09/2009 8:08:42 AM PST by roofer13
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To: roofer13

you sound like my husband. 56, son junior in college, pre-med;
daughter a senior in high school, wife who has been stay at home for 20 years and though ready to return to work can’t find a job due to an increase here of unemployment to 8%.


35 posted on 01/09/2009 8:09:07 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette

Thank you ,I think!!!


36 posted on 01/09/2009 8:11:49 AM PST by roofer13
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To: thecabal
When the woman persisted, talking about the upcoming holiday gathering, . . .

Bet that agent feels really proud of herself. Had I been in that position, I'd have pulled out my cell phone and sweetly said, "Oh, let me take your as a satisfied customer." I'll bet the agent would have bolted from the scene. Roaches are afraid of the light.

37 posted on 01/09/2009 8:23:47 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: davidgumpert
Sharon, who is a single mom,

Doesn't this make everything OK?

Don't we have to bow down and worship?

38 posted on 01/09/2009 8:36:27 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

No, we should definitely stone her.


39 posted on 01/09/2009 8:39:32 AM PST by thecabal (We care a lot)
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To: davidgumpert

She should of said she was selling obama milk she would be free.


40 posted on 01/09/2009 8:44:43 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: davidgumpert

This is a real problem. Some goat farmers are selling shares in their animals to clients. This makes the transfer of milk “free”, to an owner.


41 posted on 01/09/2009 9:02:38 AM PST by Darnright (A penny saved is a government oversight)
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To: Islander7; Graycliff

When I was first married (back in the late 70s) we could still buy raw milk. I sometimes made my own butter from the cream. It was just kinda fun to do.


42 posted on 01/09/2009 9:45:47 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: roofer13

you are not alone. and you are what has made America great. should have finished my thought.


43 posted on 01/09/2009 12:10:51 PM PST by Jvette
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To: roofer13

Check out FEDCOSEEDS.com.
Good prices, and most of it is open polinated non monsanto manipulated stuff.

Leans slightly to the left, but not in a idiodic stupid way, more of a former hippy way.


44 posted on 01/09/2009 12:12:10 PM PST by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: Darnright

Some one locally sold shares, and ended up in deep doodoo.
Google DEE CREEK farm.


45 posted on 01/09/2009 12:13:21 PM PST by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: Jvette
You are much too kind.
46 posted on 01/09/2009 3:04:24 PM PST by roofer13
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To: davidgumpert
Its NOT illegal to sell raw milk in California. She has grounds to sue for false arrest, illegal imprisonment under official color of authority, deprivation of income and whatever a good attorney can make stick. I know California is bankrupt but the only rule corrupt and out of control government officials will understand to make them cease and desist is when it hurts them in their pocketbook. I guess the Ventura County Sheriffs had nothing better to do with their time than to throw a mom in jail who tried to make an honest living. I hope the DA takes it to a jury. Let him explain with a straight face how arresting and jailing someone who made an honest living was a good use of taxpayer dollars.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

47 posted on 01/09/2009 5:48:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Ha ha ha . . . . oh say it aint so! Well at least Sharon has moved on to milking cows instead of milking unsuspecting elderly widows out of their life savings through mortgage scams!!

Sharon Palmer (Ross) was arrested a few years ago as she was trying to enter the U.S. at the San Ysidro border crossing with three Mexican nationals in the trunk of her car!!

She had fled to Mexico after scamming an elderly widow out of her $1 million dollar home.

And this was AFTER she had already served a state prison sentences for swindling an elderly home-owner out of nearly $750,000 in a similar scam.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/-home-base-mortgage-brokers/story.aspx?guid=%7B2CB52BD7-A473-46F6-92C7-105AE333FD67%7D

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jul/19/business/fi-55157


48 posted on 01/10/2009 9:00:09 PM PST by slow
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To: slow

You’ve pretty much killed the post.

Seesh, and it was so much fun.


49 posted on 01/10/2009 9:11:42 PM PST by Balding_Eagle
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