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Audience Atomization Overcome: Why the Internet Weakens the Authority of the Press
Press Think ^ | Jan 12, 2009 | Jay Rosen

Posted on 01/12/2009 3:08:03 PM PST by Leisler

In the age of mass media, the press was able to define the sphere of legitimate debate with relative ease because the people on the receiving end were atomized-- connected "up" to Big Media but not across to each other. And now that authority is eroding. I will try to explain why. It’s easily the most useful diagram I’ve found for understanding the practice of journalism in the United States, and the hidden politics of that practice. You can draw it by hand right now. Take a sheet of paper and make a big circle in the middle. In the center of that circle draw a smaller one to create a doughnut shape. Label the doughnut hole “sphere of consensus.” Call the middle region “sphere of legitimate debate,” and the outer region “sphere of deviance.”

That’s the entire model. Now you have a way to understand why it’s so unproductive to argue with journalists about the deep politics of their work. They don’t know about this freakin’ diagram! Here it is in its original form, from the 1986 book The Uncensored War by press scholar Daniel C. Hallin. Hallin felt he needed something more supple—and truthful—than calcified notions like objectivity and “opinions are confined to the editorial page.” So he came up with this diagram.

Let’s look more carefully at his three regions.

1.) The sphere of legitimate debate is the one journalists recognize as real, normal, everyday terrain. They think of their work as taking place almost exclusively within this space. (It doesn’t, but they think so.) Hallin: “This is the region of electoral contests and legislative debates, of issues recognized as such by the major established actors of the American political process.”

Here the two-party system reigns, and the news agenda is what the people in power are likely to have on their agenda. Perhaps the purest expression of this sphere is Washington Week on PBS, where journalists discuss what the two-party system defines as “the issues.” Objectivity and balance are “the supreme journalistic virtues” for the panelists on Washington Week because when there is legitimate debate it’s hard to know where the truth lies. There are risks in saying that truth lies with one faction in the debate, as against another— even when it does. He said, she said journalism is like the bad seed of this sphere, but also a logical outcome of it.

2. ) The sphere of consensus is the “motherhood and apple pie” of politics, the things on which everyone is thought to agree. Propositions that are seen as uncontroversial to the point of boring, true to the point of self-evident, or so widely-held that they’re almost universal lie within this sphere. Here, Hallin writes, “journalists do not feel compelled either to present opposing views or to remain disinterested observers.” (Which means that anyone whose basic views lie outside the sphere of consensus will experience the press not just as biased but savagely so.)

Consensus in American politics begins, of course, with the United States Constitution, but it includes other propositions too, like “Lincoln was a great president,” and “it doesn’t matter where you come from, you can succeed in America.” Whereas journalists equate ideology with the clash of programs and parties in the debate sphere, academics know that the consensus or background sphere is almost pure ideology: the American creed.

3.) In the sphere of deviance we find “political actors and views which journalists and the political mainstream of society reject as unworthy of being heard.” As in the sphere of consensus, neutrality isn’t the watchword here; journalists maintain order by either keeping the deviant out of the news entirely or identifying it within the news frame as unacceptable, radical, or just plain impossible. The press “plays the role of exposing, condemning, or excluding from the public agenda” the deviant view, says Hallin. It “marks out and defends the limits of acceptable political conduct.”

Anyone whose views lie within the sphere of deviance—as defined by journalists—will experience the press as an opponent in the struggle for recognition. If you don’t think separation of church and state is such a good idea; if you do think a single payer system is the way to go; if you dissent from the “lockstep behavior of both major American political parties when it comes to Israel” (Glenn Greenwald) chances are you will never find your views reflected in the news. It’s not that there’s a one-sided debate; there’s no debate.

Complications to keep in mind.

The three spheres are not really separate; they create one another, like the public and private do. The boundaries between regions are semi-porous and impermanent. Things can move out of one sphere and into another—that’s what political and cultural change is, if you think about it—but when they do shift there is often no announcement. One day David Brody of Christian Broadcasting Network shows up on Meet the Press, but Amy Goodman of Democracy Now never does.

This can be confusing. Of course, the producers of Meet the Press could say in a press release, “We decided that Pat Robertson’s CBN is now to be placed within the sphere of legitimate debate because… ” but then they would have to complete the “because” in a plausible way and very often they cannot. (“Amy Goodman, we decided, does not qualify for this show because…”) This gap between what journalists actually do as they arrange the scene of politics, and the portion they can explain or defend publicly—the difference between making news and making sense—is responsible for a lot of the anger and bad feeling projected at the political press by various constituencies that notice these moves and question them.

Within the sphere of legitimate debate there is some variance. Journalists behave differently if the issue is closer to the doughnut hole than they do when it is nearer the edge. The closer they think they are to the unquestioned core of consensus, the more plausible it is to present a single view as the only view, which is a variant on the old saw about American foreign policy: “Politics stops at the water’s edge.” (Atrios: “I’ve long noticed a tendency of the American press to take the side of official US policy when covering foreign affairs.”)

Another complication: Journalists aren’t the only actors here. Elections have a great deal to do with what gets entered into legitimate debate. Candidates—especially candidates for president—can legitimize an issue just by talking about it. Political parties can expand their agenda, and journalists will cover that. Powerful and visible people can start questioning a consensus belief and remove it from the “everyone agrees” category. And of course public opinion and social behavior do change over time.

Some implications of Daniel Hallin’s model.

That journalists affirm and enforce the sphere of consensus, consign ideas and actors to the sphere of deviance, and decide when the shift is made from one to another— none of this is in their official job description. You won’t find it taught in J-school, either. It’s an intrinsic part of what they do, but not a natural part of how they think or talk about their job. Which means they often do it badly. Their “sphere placement” decisions can be arbitrary, automatic, inflected with fear, or excessively narrow-minded. Worse than that, these decisions are often invisible to the people making them, and so we cannot argue with those people. It’s like trying to complain to your kid’s teacher about the values the child is learning in school when the teacher insists that the school does not teach values.

When (with some exceptions) political journalists failed properly to examine George W. Bush’s case for war in Iraq, they were making a category mistake. They treated Bush’s plan as part of the sphere of consensus. But even when Congress supports it, a case for war can never be removed from legitimate debate. That’s just a bad idea. Mentally placing the war’s opponents in the sphere of deviance was another category error. In politics, when people screw up like that, we can replace them: throw the bums out! we say. But the First Amendment says we cannot do that to people in the press. The bums stay. And later they are free to say: we didn’t screw up at all, as David Gregory, now host of Meet the Press, did say to his enduring shame.

“We are not allowing ourselves to think politically.”

Deciding what does and does not legitimately belong within the national debate is—no way around it—a political act. And yet a pervasive belief within the press is that journalists do not engage in such action, for to do so would be against their principles. As Len Downie, former editor of the Washington Post once said about why things make the front page, “We think it’s important informationally. We are not allowing ourselves to think politically.” I think he’s right. The press does not permit itself to think politically. But it does engage in political acts. Ergo, it is an unthinking actor, which is not good. When it is criticized for this it will reject the criticism out of hand, which is also not good.

Atrios, the economist and liberal blogger with a big following, has a more colorful phrase for “maintaining boundaries around the sphere of legitimate debate.” He often writes about the “dirty f*cking hippies,” by which he means the out-of-power or online left, and the way this group is marginalized by Washington journalists, who sometimes seem to define themselves against it. “In the late 90s, the dirty f*cking hippies were the crazy people who thought that Bill Clinton should neither resign nor be impeached,” he writes. “In the great wasteland of our mainstream media there was almost no place one could turn to find someone expressing the majority view of the American public, that this whole thing was insane.” Sometimes the people the press thinks of as deviant types are closer to the sphere of consensus than the journalists who are classifying those same people as “fringe.”

How can that happen? Well, one of the problems with our political press is that its reference group for establishing the “ground” of consensus is the insiders: the professional political class in Washington. It then offers that consensus to the country as if it were the country’s own, when it’s not, necessarily. This erodes confidence in a way that may be invisible to journalists behaving as insiders themselves. And it gives the opening to Jon Stewart and his kind to exploit that gap I talked about between making news and making sense.

“Echo chamber” or counter-sphere?

Now we can see why blogging and the Net matter so greatly in political journalism. In the age of mass media, the press was able to define the sphere of legitimate debate with relative ease because the people on the receiving end were atomized— meaning they were connected “up” to Big Media but not across to each other. But today one of the biggest factors changing our world is the falling cost for like-minded people to locate each other, share information, trade impressions and realize their number. Among the first things they may do is establish that the “sphere of legitimate debate” as defined by journalists doesn’t match up with their own definition.

In the past there was nowhere for this kind of sentiment to go. Now it collects, solidifies and expresses itself online. Bloggers tap into it to gain a following and serve demand. Journalists call this the “echo chamber,” which is their way of downgrading it as a reliable source. But what’s really happening is that the authority of the press to assume consensus, define deviance and set the terms for legitimate debate is weaker when people can connect horizontally around and about the news.

Which is how I got to my three word formlua for understanding the Internet’s effects in politics and media: “audience atomization overcome.”


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1 posted on 01/12/2009 3:08:06 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
This is actually a thoughtful article, however, the author suffers from his own preconceived notions -- one, for example, is that the de-atomization is necessarily bad.

For 200 years, approximately, the populace gathered in pubs and common areas to "de-atomize". It is only truly with the advent of television that the atomized populace began to be groomed, opinionwise.

Those two-hundred years were years in which America became a power to be reckoned with. We have sliden since then.

2 posted on 01/12/2009 3:17:12 PM PST by Lazamataz (Illegal Zombies: Just Eating the Brains that Ordinary Americans Won't Eat)
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To: Lazamataz

I think most all the major institutions that are products of a few information sources are struggling with this.

Once rare and expensive in time, price or exclusivity, information is almost free, and well like the bible in the hands of the peasants, causing all sorts of problems with the story tellers.

One of the reasons for the decline in leadership is that most leaders came up ‘through the system’ and were trained/conditioned by a system that doesn’t fit the environment. These ‘leaders’ don’t understand because they have been told they are the best and the brightest and to trust the coach but they are losing.

I think Palin was a bit of this. We got her, the institutional butt sniffers and wine sippers didn’t. In some ways Mitt was a perfect example of a product that twenty years ago, might well have been rolled out as a presentable product by boring, unimaginative GOP Inc Industries as the ‘New And Improved Republican Product With Twice The Cleaning Power!”

Obama’s campaigned got the Internet, Facebook, Twitter.

The parties, the MSM want the low cost Internet, yet it is destroying them, or at least the them that used to be.

Good.


3 posted on 01/12/2009 3:28:09 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: Leisler
I like the concepts in this article.

I have often posted here that the internets represent Power To The People, it's just not the power the left was chanting about in the 60’s.

The Clintons covered this in a white paper that was something-or-other ‘stream of commerce” to describe how the Right was using the internet to circumvent the absolute filter MSM had on certain ideas and stories, it's a parallel to this article.

4 posted on 01/12/2009 3:28:21 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Leisler
Daniel
C. Hallin's Spheres of Consensus, Controversy and Deviance
5 posted on 01/12/2009 3:28:52 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Leisler
But what’s really happening is that the authority of the press to assume consensus, define deviance and set the terms for legitimate debate is weaker when people can connect horizontally around and about the news.

Sounds like a good thing, if you ask me. "Journalists" have no authority in the first place -- even if they think they do.

6 posted on 01/12/2009 3:31:45 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Leisler

here is something odd- when I search for “conspiracy stream of commerce” I get three or four hits talking about it, but no actual document. Does anyone have a copy?


7 posted on 01/12/2009 3:42:01 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow
Yes, Billerys vast right wing noise machine. CNN’s Easons quip at the elitist Davos powwow about people in their pajamas.

This is all good, and the power structures still haven't gotten used to it.

8 posted on 01/12/2009 3:43:22 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: DBrow
Here, for starters.
9 posted on 01/12/2009 3:50:49 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: Lazamataz

Also, the idea of “egalitarianism” has run amok, and many people consider all sources equally valid. Fewer today are equipped with the analytical skills to question what they are fed.

But remember, 200 years ago, there was no assumption that journalism would be “objective”...if you disagreed, you would start a separate paper with your views, not try to tear down what was already there.


10 posted on 01/12/2009 3:51:19 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Leisler

Journalism isn’t entitled to any authority.


11 posted on 01/12/2009 3:54:35 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Leisler
I don't trust anyone in the press today... not a single person... and I do not trust any politicians today... none of them (save Palin)... and I am beginning to not trust FR as being a Conservative outpost of Patriots... for this fine community has become infected with dims and the evil that they bring with them. We seem to have no defenses left with which to fight back.... nor a will to use the ones that we do have left to us.

LLS

12 posted on 01/12/2009 3:55:53 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: BenLurkin
They have NO authority and have only obligations... but they refuse to accept reality.

LLS

13 posted on 01/12/2009 3:57:23 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Gondring

People all over the world recognize quality when they are exposed to it.

Sports, cars, food and even ideas.

The key is having choice and an open market for physical things and ideas.


14 posted on 01/12/2009 4:00:58 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: DBrow
A thought ~ Conservatives have almost always sensed that the people financing Leftwingtard organizations were a little nuts.

Not only were those people nuts, they were suckers, or into a quick fix for their sense of guilt about robbing the poor.

We never really knew who they were of course, so they could do their stuff quietly, unbothered by any of the poor people they were robbing.

The press connived in the charade because, it turned out, many of the owners were the same crowd that financed Leftwingtard organizations.

Recently Bernie Madoff nearly defunded the professional Left by robbing their benefactors!

If the MSM were the only thing telling us about this we'd probably believe that Bernie was the victim rather than the victorious conquering hero!

15 posted on 01/12/2009 4:01:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Leisler

“like the bible in the hands of the peasants”

Very good analogy. The Sanhedrins cannot control the information flow anymore.


16 posted on 01/12/2009 4:03:11 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: LibLieSlayer
You've been here just under 4 years and you're giving up already?

Everyday we find a couple of Leftwingtards and toss them unceremoniously OUT.

It's been far worse in the distant past ~ Let me tell you about the winter of '98, we still had the last of the anti-UN crowd trying to scare us with pictures of white painted tanks on sidings in Mississippi (supposedly weapons to be used by UN invaders), and yet there was this small group of professional homosexual activists who defied all conventions and brought every political debate around to their favorite topic ~ their private parts!

There was hardly room for Conservatives and Republicans, and then the revolt ~ Lucianne Goldberg and company LEFT to set up their own website ~ underfunded and underpowered that it was, when her crowd left the "anti-UN" crowd left, and then Clownposse left, and then that particular homosexual faction left, and then this crowd who didn't like "W", and then a crowd who did like "W", and then another crowd.....

There's been some changes. At the same time we still had enough people with the time to put down their guns for a few moments and discuss rationally the plight of the Republican candidates for President. Sure, there were some factions here and there, but mostly there was discussion.

And, then, the campaign in the Fall ~ we picked up the usual number of Democrat campaign help. Some of them got converted, as usual, and some of them simply choked on their own phlegm and disappeared. Within a few weeks they'll all be gone except for the Obama Gestapo who cruise around trying to patrol, inform, and chasten websites like this one ~ but we know who they are ~ and they know who we are. A recent survey revealed Free Republic to be the 22 largest source of "news" in the country. Way back when (1998) we wouldn't have made the list.

We lost some folks (the white tank people were fun), but we've gained new readers who come here just to see what we have to say about stuff ~ one of those people is Ariana Huffington, who runs her own commercial website with a decidedly Maoist "black helicopters" point of view ~ and she comes to us to find out what reasonable people think about serious matters.

17 posted on 01/12/2009 4:13:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: LibLieSlayer

Learn to like the fight, and it becomes its own reward.


18 posted on 01/12/2009 4:27:12 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: Leisler
People all over the world recognize quality when they are exposed to it.

That's not what I'm worried about.

I'm worried about people not recognizing trash when they are exposed to it.

19 posted on 01/12/2009 4:28:06 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: DBrow

Click the figure I posted...it takes you to the book.


20 posted on 01/12/2009 4:30:26 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: DBrow

uh, nevermind. Sorry!


21 posted on 01/12/2009 4:32:51 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: muawiyah
“You've been here just under 4 years and you're giving up already?”

I have been here longer than that... just never registered before then. I also have donated $200.00 during every single fund raiser and I just mailed another $200.00 to Jimbo today. I have not given up but I see the rot infecting this place and what passes for FReepers today. I also see a lack of hands on guidance that this place once enjoyed.

“Everyday we find a couple of Leftwingtards and toss them unceremoniously OUT.”

I have been lectured by certain mods for even bringing to their attention some of these communists and muzzies that are operating here these days. We have a definite lack of ozone in these times... the Viking Kitties have not been seen in eons. We need more ozone!

“It's been far worse in the distant past ~ Let me tell you about the winter of ‘98, we still had the last of the anti-UN crowd trying to scare us with pictures of white painted tanks on sidings in Mississippi (supposedly weapons to be used by UN invaders), and yet there was this small group of professional homosexual activists who defied all conventions and brought every political debate around to their favorite topic ~ their private parts!”

I live about 5 miles from those white trucks... and they sit rusting and decaying because the family that bought them can do nothing with them because they do not meet US DOT regulations. fags are disgusting.

“There was hardly room for Conservatives and Republicans, and then the revolt ~ Lucianne Goldberg and company LEFT to set up their own website ~ underfunded and underpowered that it was, when her crowd left the “anti-UN” crowd left, and then Clownposse left, and then that particular homosexual faction left, and then this crowd who didn't like “W”, and then a crowd who did like “W”, and then another crowd.....”

Argues to my point that we need another purge here badly.

“There's been some changes. At the same time we still had enough people with the time to put down their guns for a few moments and discuss rationally the plight of the Republican candidates for President. Sure, there were some factions here and there, but mostly there was discussion.”

Today we have a few (GOD bless us all) Conservatives arguing with socialists and communists and islamists right here on FR... and they seem to be in larger numbers than what few conservatives we have left to man the positions.

“And, then, the campaign in the Fall ~ we picked up the usual number of Democrat campaign help. Some of them got converted, as usual, and some of them simply choked on their own phlegm and disappeared. Within a few weeks they'll all be gone except for the Obama Gestapo who cruise around trying to patrol, inform, and chasten websites like this one ~ but we know who they are ~ and they know who we are. A recent survey revealed Free Republic to be the 22 largest source of “news” in the country. Way back when (1998) we wouldn't have made the list.

We lost some folks (the white tank people were fun), but we've gained new readers who come here just to see what we have to say about stuff ~ one of those people is Ariana Huffington, who runs her own commercial website with a decidedly Maoist “black helicopters” point of view ~ and she comes to us to find out what reasonable people think about serious matters.”

We are supposed to be the PREMIERE CONSERVATIVE SITE IN THE WORLD... and that is just no longer true... and it will not be true again until the enemy amongst us is defeated... and I fully expect that I may be banned permanently for even saying these things in open forum... but I can no longer sit by and remain silent. Those that need to know... know... and I pray they use their knowledge to save this fine institution. I mean we are on the cusp of witnessing a marxist, muzzie traitor being sworn in as President... I think we need a Conservative FR now more than ever!

LLS

22 posted on 01/12/2009 4:36:32 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Actually, I'm running into many fewer Socialists, Commies, Islamofascists and Democrats than before (and if you're a monetarist don't think all the other guys are Commies, anymore than they should think you are one ~ deflation must necessarily be dealt with differently than inflation). The Commies, in fact, have moved on to websites where their kind is tolerated.

Not that we shouldn't be vigilent, but as far as Conservatism goes, this is still the premier web presence. At the same time the internet is rapidly absorbing television!

Inasmuch as all political boards are limited somewhat by "whas hoppen mon" in the world of politics, right now is a bit dead compared to the recently passed Fall Campaign.

Things will fire up a bit just as soon as the Democrats figure out the've got work to do ~ although none of them really like work, and would rather we do all of it ~ there's gonna' be plenty of BS flying, and we'll get our turn to eviscerate their nonsense ideas.

23 posted on 01/12/2009 4:47:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Leisler

That’s one of the problems, they assume that they have some sort of “authority”, they DO NOT. However, since Vietnam, the fifth columnist have done their job well, coupled with the government schools they have “influence”. Anyone with half a brain can figure that out.

Those maggot infested Marxist hippies of the 60s wear suits and teach in colleges and universities. Once true conservatives find some guts and jump back into the fray, things will start changing but not before.


24 posted on 01/12/2009 5:12:13 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Gondring

That is where reputations rise up over time, and fall over time.

People are used to that.

People are used to enterprises once having quality, but no longer, and also recapturing it.

The only thing you can do is to keep choice up, an open system. In short freedom. Freedom is a quality, honesty building mechanism. People if free, move towards quality/honesty and away from low quality/honesty.
In general.
Over time.
Not always, but at higher rates.


25 posted on 01/12/2009 5:17:14 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: brushcop

Everywhere now the MSM is dying. TV viewers, newspaper readers, even movies. Kind of like the Berlin Wall of information and entertainment choice came down and people walked away.

It’s going to happen with Main Stream Education (MSE). Home school, Internet school.
Computer programs can teach repetitive boring skills like basic math, spelling better than a teacher doing it for the 11th year and bored out of their mind. Kids will be able to watch the best, ever lecture on the most obscure subject for almost free.

Stick a fork in MSE, it’s dead, it just doesn’t know it yet.


26 posted on 01/12/2009 5:25:27 PM PST by Leisler (It is always said it is for the children. (Not your children..others...somewhere))
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Here ya go.


27 posted on 01/12/2009 5:30:33 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Leisler

Thanks, I can find references to it, but the whole thing used to be online. It would be useful to have a copy now that everyone from the Co-Presidency is back in the White House (except maybe Monica).


28 posted on 01/12/2009 6:59:24 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Leisler; abb; ebiskit; TenthAmendmentChampion; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; A.Hun; johnny7; ...
This is a very fine article; thanks for the post and the ping.

I would summarize it as saying, in the main, that there are things which Big Journalism takes for granted as being "motherhood and apple pie," things which Big Journalism respects debate about, and things which Big Journalism dismisses as being beyond the pale. And although Big Journalism sees itself as being nonpolitical when it assigns people/perspectives to those categories, belief in your own ability to transcend politics is belief in your own virtue - and, as the history of the Sophists illustrates, that is the most political of beliefs.

sophist
1542, earlier sophister (c.1380), from L. sophista, sophistes, from Gk. sophistes, from sophizesthai "to become wise or learned," from sophos "wise, clever," of unknown origin. Gk. sophistes came to mean "one who gives intellectual instruction for pay," and, contrasted with "philosopher," it became a term of contempt. Ancient sophists were famous for their clever, specious arguments.
philosopher
O.E. philosophe, from L. philosophus, from Gk. philosophos "philosopher," lit. "lover of wisdom," from philos "loving" + sophos "wise, a sage."

"Pythagoras was the first who called himself philosophos, instead of sophos, 'wise man,' since this latter term was suggestive of immodesty." [Klein]

Modern form with -r appears c.1325, from an Anglo-Fr. or O.Fr. variant of philosophe, with an agent-noun ending. . . .

And the conclusion of the piece is that the internet, by essentially nulling out the cost of publishing to a worldwide potential audience, enables the people to regain the ability to participate in the public discourse on an equal footing with the oligarchs of traditional publishing. Big Journalism is losing the ability to censor the public discourse by simply stonewalling us and preventing certain opinions from reaching critical mass.

The irony being, from our perspective, that the author of this piece is apparently a lefty whose examples of good ideas rejected by Big Journalism tend to be left wing. Which makes the author's point about the relation between Big Journalism and the two party system interesting. It is possible that even as the internet overcomes the atomization of the public it will break up the Big Two parties by giving constituent parts of them the ability to attain critical mass. Possible, but IMHO not certain. Although if the Republican Party doesn't relearn the lesson of 2004 and activate the base rather than running to the mythical "middle," it does IMHO stand a good chance of marking the centenary of its 1912 failure to even place second in a presidential election with a repetition of that dismal performance.


29 posted on 01/13/2009 3:42:00 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Change is what journalism is all about. NATURALLY journalists favor "change.")
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

The internet will have a larger effect on worldwide culture than the printing press had 500 years ago. The change has just begun.


30 posted on 01/13/2009 3:48:27 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


31 posted on 01/13/2009 3:56:57 AM PST by E.G.C. (Click on a freeper's screename and then "In Forum" to read his/her posts)
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To: Leisler
I love the “fight”... but I hate it when our ammo cans are empty. We need some ammo spread around to the troops... in so many ways.

LLS

32 posted on 01/13/2009 4:22:24 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Thanks for the ping also! You save me hours of reading and have been 100% a great teacher and guide. Appreciate as always.

I have come to the conclusion that in all things we must expect the yin and yang, the positive and the negative, ergo we then have to exercise our minds and congitive powers to make our own decisions.

Otherwise we would be sheep - and we cannot always believe the messages we are fed.

It is good to question and argue - ourselves as well as the media.


33 posted on 01/13/2009 5:16:35 AM PST by imintrouble
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; The Mayor

Good observations. True Conservative grassroots have a fighting chance indeed.


34 posted on 01/13/2009 5:49:06 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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The irony being, from our perspective, that the author of this piece is apparently a lefty whose examples of good ideas rejected by Big Journalism tend to be left wing.
Rosen tippy toeing up to the notion of Meet the Press as an evangelical outpost to try to trot out Christians as the heavies subtext yet again gave me a good belly laugh.
35 posted on 01/13/2009 7:31:30 AM PST by Milhous (Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.)
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To: Leisler; abb; Milhous; The Spirit Of Allegiance; imintrouble
In the age of mass media, the press was able to define the sphere of legitimate debate with relative ease because the people on the receiving end were atomized-- connected "up" to Big Media but not across to each other.
Note well, dear reader, the planted axiom in that statement - that "the press" is not "the drive by media" - for "media" is a plural noun - and "the press" is singular. "The press" as Associated Press journalism speaks of it is nothing other than the consensus of Associated Press journalists.

"The press," as the founders knew it and defended the freedom of it, was independent, fractious, and contentious. Jefferson sponsored a newspaper to attack the policies of Alexander Hamilton - and to respond to the attacks of the newspaper which Hamilton sponsored for reciprocal purposes. "The press," as the AP knows it, is simply the consensus of the AP - the opinions of FReepers and Rush Limbaugh, Thomas Sowell, et al most definitely not included. The latter are far too independent, fractious, and contentious for the tastes of the AP.

If ever we have to appeal to SCOTUS to protect ourselves from the "fairness" doctrine, I would certainly hope that the Supreme Court would take note of the stark contrast between the doctrine implied by the Constitution and First Amendment and the conduct of the founders of this republic, on the one hand, and the oligarchic doctrine that the boundaries of legitimate debate are defined by an organization which was founded two generations after the ratification of the First Amendment on the other.


36 posted on 01/14/2009 3:26:34 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Change is what journalism is all about. NATURALLY journalists favor "change.")
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