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Bush regrets immigration reforms weren't approved [pushing amnesty to the very end]
AP via Google ^ | 2009-01-12

Posted on 01/12/2009 4:59:05 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: okie01

McCain was just a symptom of the fracturing of the conservative coalition.

There were just too many one issue voters....no one more conservative than McCain could muster the votes. Hunter got the immigration activists, Romney got the business people, Thompson got people like me, Huckabee got the evangelicals. McCain got the nomination by default as far as I’m concerned, mostly from party hacks and the uninformed (some Dem crossovers, but not many-they were too busy swooning over Obama).

FWIW, the only thing good about this loss is that it was McCain that lost. I can’t stand him and hope he disappears.


121 posted on 01/12/2009 8:11:31 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: bray

Actually, I’m now glad they didn’t build a wall. I want to be able to leave when the Communists really start feeling their oats.


122 posted on 01/12/2009 8:14:40 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: oblomov
Auster is still around and blogging. He is working on a new book and some other projects.
Paul Gottfried was nice enough to out me (as someone who deals with nationalists) in a public response to Auster and myself.

At anyrate, check out View from the Right, where Auster blogs daily.

123 posted on 01/12/2009 8:30:16 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: Will88

No matter what we lose...if the GOP fights the issue we lose Florida and other areas with high Latino populations. If we roll over we lose...I don’t know what the answer is, but I can’t see a win-win situation for the GOP in this issue.


124 posted on 01/12/2009 9:03:03 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy
if the GOP fights the issue we lose Florida and other areas with high Latino populations.

I don't think the Latino population (and voter participation) is high enough to swing the vote anywhere but maybe California and New Mexico. There are still a lot of conservatives in Florida and other states with high Latino populations. Bush brags about the 43% he claims to have gotten in 2004, but many dispute that and believe it was more like 37%. And Reagan got 41% in 1984.

But some damage has been done by Bush pushing and pushing the issue. He put off many Republicans and some number of Latinos were put off, but I think that is greatly exaggerated by those who want to pander to Hispanics on and on.

One interesting stat: Latinos are about 14% of the population, but only about 6.5% of the votes cast in 2008. Illegals are counted in the census, and are in any population estimate. Nothing will damage the Republicans more than these half-witted legalization schemes that Bush and Rove thought would win so many to the party. They were nuts to ever think they'd attract all those natural Dem constituents (as most all more recent arrivals are).

I think the best thing is to keep fighting amnesty, and appeal to Latinos with basic conservative principles.

125 posted on 01/12/2009 9:20:16 PM PST by Will88
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To: rabscuttle385
Bush's stupidest and most condemnable act was to send Karl Rove to reassure the La Raza racists that Third World illegal aliens violating our borders that US laws would NOT be enforced to allow aliens to come here for a "better life."

Sap-happy Rove also suggested that, once here, criminals and lawbreakers would become so enamored with democracy, they would forget their corrupt ways and embrace democracy and all it stands for (famous last words).

Bush/Rove were sucking up to latinos and promising to turn the US into a Third World for their pleasure AT THE SAME TIME illegals were getting 100% mortgages, flipping them back and forth between family members at higher and higher prices, then defaulting and absconding to Mexico with huge pots of money----leaving banks (and US citizens) holding the bag.

Thanks to Bush, tens of thousands of illegals hightailed it over the border after reading Mexican newspapers ads headlining : "Free Houses in the USA."

Illegals were establishing several identities with forged documents and stolen SS nos, getting on the US gravy train---and sending billions of US dollars back to Mexico.

They are now lining up for Obama's stimulus freebies, thanks to Rove's creating an "illegals voting bloc" (that elected Obama).

Rove and Bush also made a side deal with Mexico----and now the Mexican government is salivating over getting their hands on more and more US assets.

128 posted on 01/13/2009 3:20:51 AM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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To: CitizenUSA
An honorable man would have enforced the law as the chief executive is obligated to do.

You forgot one little detail------Bush sent Karl Rove to reassure the La Raza racists----- US laws would NOT be enforced to allow those violating our borders aliens to have a "better life" in the US.

Sap-happy Rove also suggested that, once here, criminals and lawbreakers would become so enamored with democracy, they would forget their corrupt ways and embrace democracy and all it stands for (famous last words).

129 posted on 01/13/2009 3:25:59 AM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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To: South40
"...what's that make you?"

An idiot for reading your venomous rantings.

130 posted on 01/13/2009 5:42:35 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Liz

I don't know if Bush consciously wanted the Dems to take over in 2009, but he could not have done much more to ensure that they did.

Link: Bush administration issued a 72-hour cease-and-desist order to all fugitive apprehension teams to spare Obama embarrassment over his Kenyan half-aunt, Zeituni Onyango.


131 posted on 01/13/2009 5:57:01 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: rabscuttle385

Why can’t Bush just commute Ramos/Compean’s sentences? He doesn’t have to pardon them. He didn’t pardon Lewis Libby. But he got him out of jail.


132 posted on 01/13/2009 6:09:52 AM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Nice post. Thanks for the headsup....and the link.


133 posted on 01/13/2009 6:47:01 AM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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To: rabscuttle385

>>The Republican Party (and...FR) is infested with “pragmatists” who care more for power than abiding by one’s core principles.<<

And the irony is that the result of this “pragmatism” is to nominate ever more leftward candidates, and consequently, to lose GOP power.


134 posted on 01/13/2009 7:06:15 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: rabscuttle385

They still don’t get it.....(sigh)


135 posted on 01/13/2009 7:31:40 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


136 posted on 01/13/2009 8:18:03 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: rabscuttle385

Alfred E. Newmann and George W. Bush - separated at birth.

I guess Ramos and Compean will rot in solitary confinement for the next ten years thanks to this idiot.


137 posted on 01/13/2009 8:24:12 AM PST by ZULU ( God, guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

BINGO!!!!

The Dems never worry about conservative votes. Why should Republicans worry about liberal votes when poll after poll indicates America is a center-right country???

Because they are useless idiots and need to be replaced - NOW.


138 posted on 01/13/2009 8:25:38 AM PST by ZULU ( God, guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: A.Hun

“Bush just tried to get you a good deal on immigration when he could”

??????????????????????????????????????

Bush is an idiot who refused to enforce the laws of the land - laws he took an oath of office to enforce TWICE.

He should have been impeached over his flawed Mexican border policies by his own political party.


139 posted on 01/13/2009 8:27:08 AM PST by ZULU ( God, guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: raybbr

I never listened to what Clinton had to say - it was damaging to the brain. I reached the same conclusion with Jorge el Segundo in his second term.


140 posted on 01/13/2009 8:28:02 AM PST by ZULU ( God, guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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