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Senators Raise Questions About Geithner's Nomination at Treasury (housekeeper, taxes)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | January 13, 2009 | JONATHAN WEISMAN

Posted on 01/13/2009 11:54:52 AM PST by abb

Edited on 01/13/2009 1:59:05 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Sen. Charles E. Grassley, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is raising questions about a housekeeper that worked briefly for Treasury Secretary-nominee Timothy Geithner without proper immigration papers, and multiple years when Mr. Geithner didn't pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bama; geithner; obamaregime; obamatransitionfile; obamba; treasury
This just in...
1 posted on 01/13/2009 11:54:55 AM PST by abb
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To: abb

For a second there my hopes were barely raised above zero that a Republican might say something, but it was a Democrat huh?


2 posted on 01/13/2009 11:57:13 AM PST by GeronL (sanity prone freeper)
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To: GeronL

Chuck’s up from his nap.


3 posted on 01/13/2009 11:58:17 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: abb

I’m glad I don’t have a housekeeper.

They seem to cause MORE trouble for people.


4 posted on 01/13/2009 12:02:41 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

lol


5 posted on 01/13/2009 12:03:04 PM PST by GeronL (sanity prone freeper)
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To: abb

great. Now obama can withdraw his nomination and put Ron Paul up to be treasury secretary. Then the term TARP would return to its traditional definition.


6 posted on 01/13/2009 12:03:59 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Obama/Biden '08, in and of itself, A Bridge To Nowhere)
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To: abb

So this is the guy that’s the touted financial genius. Can’t even correctly file his own taxes. Nice. I bet they confirm him anyway, because he paid the taxes once it was “brought to his attention.” I’m also betting we’re going to have at least one senator say something along the lines of “We have to confirm him, regardless of this information. The financial crisis is too great, and we must have his leadership.”


7 posted on 01/13/2009 12:06:17 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Hoffer Rand
From the last graf of the article.

Democratic senators plan to defend Mr. Geithner, saying that the nature of the complaints pale in comparison to the gravity of the crises he has been asked to face, a severe economic recession, turmoil in the financial markets and the collapse of the U.S. auto industry.

8 posted on 01/13/2009 12:08:19 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

“Sen. Charles E. Grassley, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is raising questions about a housekeeper that worked briefly for Treasury Secretary-nominee Timothy Geithner without proper immigration papers, and multiple years when Mr. Geithner didn’t pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself.”

Have you noticed the people in charge of our economy, enforcing our laws,etc. care so little that they won’t hire an American or obey our laws....besides being cheap and greedy!


9 posted on 01/13/2009 12:12:28 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: abb

Doesn’t matter - he is a Democrat nominee.


10 posted on 01/13/2009 12:14:53 PM PST by Truth29
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To: abb
Sen. Charles E. Grassley, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is raising questions about a housekeeper that worked briefly for Treasury Secretary-nominee Timothy Geithner without proper immigration papers, and multiple years when Mr. Geithner didn't pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself.

Geithner should have just gotten a sweetheart Countrywide mortgage and paid for a documented housekeeper with the savings. That would not be a problem if Chris Dodd is any example.

11 posted on 01/13/2009 12:16:07 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: abb

Why not simply apply to the Secretary-designate the rules the Department of the Treasury applies to civil servants? Oh, I forgot, that would require the Secretary-designate pack his bags and head home.


12 posted on 01/13/2009 12:31:00 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: abb

Payroll taxes are just for the “little people” you know.

Wall Street and all the other politically connected big wigs approve, therefore he will be confirmed.


13 posted on 01/13/2009 12:33:45 PM PST by Boiling Pots (The USA has become one huge pyramid scheme. Thanks George, John, Nancy and Harry.)
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To: abb
“to air the matter ahead of any public confirmation hearing..”

Why do the Pubbies tip toe through the tulips? If it was reversed, the Rats would wait till the public hearing, then have a humiliating lynching!

14 posted on 01/13/2009 12:40:29 PM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: GeronL
For a second there my hopes were barely raised above zero that a Republican might say something, but it was a Democrat huh?

Jeeezzzz...read the first sentence: "Sen. Charles E. Grassley, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is raising questions..."

The knee-jerk blame-Republicans-all-the-time crap around here these days is sickening.

15 posted on 01/13/2009 12:56:18 PM PST by Wolfstar (This much I know is true, that God blessed the broken road that led me straight to you.)
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To: AuntB

An obituary

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16 posted on 01/13/2009 12:57:28 PM PST by shielagolden
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To: Wolfstar

Him? Is he still a Republican?


17 posted on 01/13/2009 1:05:30 PM PST by GeronL (sanity prone freeper)
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To: abb

My mother used to clean houses, part time, under the table, after she retired. She worked for a prominent lawyer in the area who evidently had political ambitions.

My mother just wanted a few extra bucks without bother of taxes but this was back when everyone was all over the place with all those nannies and such. The Dems jumped on everyone with a closet Nanny/housekeeper.

So this lawyer turned over all the wages he paid my mother into the gubmint and the poor women like to be run to the poor house. First, her pathetic wages were added on TOP of her husband’s wages. At that time their taxes were high. THEN she had to pay, get this, 15.2% FICA taxes because, remember, my mother was a so-called “independent contractor” and had to pay her own FICA. Also bear in mind that the rate she charged this lawyer was low specifically BECAUSE it was not taxed. After he turned her in she had no choice and essentially worked for LESS than minimum wage.

All this for about $25.00 for four hours cleaning a house, this a 60 year old woman. I swear it caused her to die before she was ready.

But hey, that lawyer was covered and got to run for his precious office, which he never won.

But hey yeah, they killed my poor mother over this big nothing. Give the Democrats hell over it.


18 posted on 01/13/2009 1:15:47 PM PST by Fishtalk (Tell McCain- stop reaching across the aisle ; America voted for the guy who always voted "present".)
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To: abb

This emphasizes what a complete pile of crap the tax code is. If a potential treasury secretary can’t get it right, who can? I don’t think the guy was trying to evade the tax.


19 posted on 01/13/2009 1:24:26 PM PST by Oldhunk
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To: abb
The arrogance is breathtaking. Only the decent and honest peole pay taxes. The Elite are exempt.

We are fools!

20 posted on 01/13/2009 1:37:42 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: abb

No worries. Bloomberg just reported that Orrin Hatch has met with him and voiced continued support.


21 posted on 01/13/2009 1:39:25 PM PST by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: Truth29

Doesn’t matter - he is a Democrat nominee.


Not only that, and I’m so mad about this I can hardly think. I just saw Senator Judd Gregg (R) on Cavuto and he thinks they are playing gotcha politics on Geithner. He said that once he found out about the taxes he paid them. Is that like as soon as they catch you robbing a bank you pay the money back? I sent that Gregg an email telling him what I thought and maybe I wouldn’t pay my taxes and when I got caught I would pay them telling them I was just doing what he said should be fine. These politicians think the laws don’t apply to them. He thinks Geithner will make a good Treasury guy and this shouldn’t matter.

Glad the Republicans are looking out for the party.

Errrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 01/13/2009 1:41:39 PM PST by kezzek
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To: GeronL
Him? Is he still a Republican?

Oh, puhleeese. Your bait-and-switch tactics are tiresome. First you bitch that no Republican did anything. Then, when your attention is called to the first sentence of the posted article, you bitch that Grassley isn't a Republican.

To people like you, there is no such thing as a Republican. Only whatever brand of pseudo-conservative your type claims to be counts in your world.

23 posted on 01/13/2009 1:41:42 PM PST by Wolfstar (This much I know is true, that God blessed the broken road that led me straight to you.)
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To: Wolfstar

I am waiting for the Republicans to actively oppose something the Democrats want.


24 posted on 01/13/2009 1:45:26 PM PST by GeronL (sanity prone freeper)
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To: abb

Baucus says that Geithner accidentally didn’t pay 40k in taxes. That is an indictment of Geithner, the tax system, or both.

Baucus says this “accident” is serious but doesn’t disqualify him. If they approve him because he “accidentally” screwed up his taxes - this the so-called sharpest economic tool in the shed - then the gov’t admits that its tax system is so fouled up as to be insupportable.

If I were anybod called into court about taxes from then on, I would point to Geithner as evidence that even the Congress that wrote the laws admits that they cannot be reasonably interpreted.


25 posted on 01/13/2009 1:49:12 PM PST by ziravan (Hiring a democrat to cut taxes is like hiring a pedophile to babysit.)
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To: Wolfstar

This government is just plain evil. They take 40-50% of people’s income and their families have to do without. Give you an example, when you buy a loaf of bread at the store, it’s been taxed over a hundred times. Then the social security comes out of my check which is 8%. My company pays the other 8%. If the government would have let me kept my money, I could have invested it at 4-5% a year, I would have over a million dollars. What does the government do with all that money that people don’t collect? Like my sister, that worked all of her life and never collected one social security check. She died at 55 with no children.

But its Free Trade 1/3 of the cars made in the U.S are made up of goverment taxs and regulations. THis f-——g goverment now take them over ,
don,t take my word for it watch this
we how have taxation without representation
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1590858026591557284


26 posted on 01/13/2009 1:53:27 PM PST by shielagolden
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To: abb

Why don’t these people draw up contractors with independent cleaners rather than hire employees?

I just don’t understand it.


27 posted on 01/13/2009 2:16:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: shielagolden
This government is just plain evil. They take 40-50% of people’s income and their families have to do without.

Although I wouldn't use the word "evil" to describe it, I agree with your point 100%. The idea that federal, state and local governments combined would take about 40% off the top of most people's income would have been totally anathema to the Founding Fathers. Further, as you state so well, they take more in various property and sales taxes, "fees", and so on. If it were possible to add all the taxes and "fees" up, I'd be surprised if about 75% of the average person's income doesn't go to taxes of one sort or another. Yet government -- again federal, state and local -- never stops sucking the people dry while providing very little in return.

28 posted on 01/13/2009 2:47:16 PM PST by Wolfstar (This much I know is true, that God blessed the broken road that led me straight to you.)
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To: ziravan

“Baucus says that Geithner accidentally didn’t pay 40k in taxes.”

I’m not sure how this could happen. It’s hard to believe the guy does his own taxes. He might be like me and use tax preparation software like Turbo-Tax. But I can guarantee that TT would have correctly calculated any unpaid self-employment taxes and added them to the tab. If the guy used a professional tax preparer, the error is even less defensible.

So I’m not saying the guy automatically is a crook just because he’s a Democrat, but it seems like there’s something here that doesn’t miss the sniff test.


29 posted on 01/13/2009 2:51:05 PM PST by DrC
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To: DrC

He uses the same tax preparer as Charlie Rangel. The Culture of Corruption at its best!


30 posted on 01/13/2009 3:24:19 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Fishtalk
“...THEN she had to pay, get this, 15.2% FICA taxes...”

I guess you have never been self employed. My wife and I have been paying this tax for YEARS. Fortunately she has had an S Corp for more than five years which helps.

Pity about your mom, but you seem a bit sheltered. Not meant to be offensive, just instructional.

Happy new year!

31 posted on 01/13/2009 3:27:20 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: ziravan
“Baucus says...”

When his lips move, only then can you tell he lying.

My worthless sENIOR sENATOR.

32 posted on 01/13/2009 3:29:23 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Dear Lord....I’ve been self-employed for most of my life.

Didn’t see the need for an insult. Most folks are used to (and tend to gripe about) paying 7.65% out of their paycheck so I wanted to emphasize that my mother had to pay the self-employment rate ON TOP of the 30% tax bracket she was in at the time.

Been doing payroll for 30 years...wrote a book about it.

You sure picked the wrong person to call sheltered.

But you impressed everyone all to hell with your level of sophistication.


33 posted on 01/13/2009 3:35:01 PM PST by Fishtalk (Tell McCain- stop reaching across the aisle ; America voted for the guy who always voted "present".)
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To: Fishtalk

Yes, he was impressive, wasn’t he?


34 posted on 01/13/2009 3:39:30 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Magic Fingers

There’s one in every crowd.

;)


35 posted on 01/13/2009 3:40:36 PM PST by Fishtalk (Tell McCain- stop reaching across the aisle ; America voted for the guy who always voted "present".)
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To: abb
The REPUBS are keeping their mouths shut about this crap!

Reid would be Yelling Corruption if this was a Repub appointment.
I'm at my brink over the Repubs, F_N COWARDS!(_&!@(*_@&(^@_$&

36 posted on 01/13/2009 4:18:31 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: abb

Amazing. What sort of excuse could he have for that? Did he just not work for three years? And how did he get his job with the Fed without that point coming up?


37 posted on 01/13/2009 6:55:00 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Oldhunk

The tax code is a pile of crap, specially designed to keep accountants and IRS inspectors busy and the countries fiscal priorities f***ed up, but it still boggles the mind how someone with this fellow’s reputed competency—someone who’s supposed to bail the rest of the country out—can’t file for an extension or hire someone to figure out his finances—and it’s just coming out now. That fact in combination with the acronym ‘IMF’ raises some serious questions.


38 posted on 01/13/2009 7:04:26 PM PST by dr_who
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To: shielagolden

blah, blah, blah.


39 posted on 01/13/2009 8:01:13 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: abb

This clown would have know he owes money right after his audit in 2006. Unless he used Charlie Rangel’s tax man.


40 posted on 01/13/2009 11:32:25 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Fishtalk

Ouote: “...Not meant to be offensive...”


41 posted on 01/14/2009 7:06:20 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: dr_who

I wasn’t aware of all the details when I made my original post. The guy was either deliberately evading taxes or incompetent. He should be thrown under the bus in either case, but the Republicans look like they have been deballed and won’t offer much opposition.


42 posted on 01/14/2009 8:57:45 AM PST by Oldhunk
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To: Always Independent

“He uses the same tax preparer as Charlie Rangel.”

Wow! I would say that speaks volumes about motivation/intent. If I wanted my taxes prepared honestly, I believe that making use of Charlie Rangel’s accountant would be the furthest thing from my mind.


43 posted on 01/14/2009 2:26:02 PM PST by DrC
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To: Wolfstar

“Although I wouldn’t use the word “evil” to describe it, I agree with your point 100%. The idea that federal, state and local governments combined would take about 40% off the top of most people’s income would have been totally anathema to the Founding Fathers. Further, as you state so well, they take more in various property and sales taxes, “fees”, and so on. If it were possible to add all the taxes and “fees” up, I’d be surprised if about 75% of the average person’s income doesn’t go to taxes of one sort or another. Yet government — again federal, state and local — never stops sucking the people dry while providing very little in return.”

Now I know why I feel so broke all the time.


44 posted on 01/14/2009 9:53:50 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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