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Democrats steal TN House Speakership, installing RINO puppet Kent Williams (Live Breaking...)
TN General Assembly ^ | 1-13-2009 | n/a

Posted on 01/13/2009 11:55:35 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj

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To: fieldmarshaldj

I suppose none of those legislature elected state officials are going any place huh.

If there aren’t gonna be any rules, why should they follow the rule about not “Charles Sumner”ing Williams? Honestly what’s to do? Just bend over and keep taking it?


101 posted on 01/13/2009 4:29:32 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“why on Earth didn’t Leader Mumpower get some non-moonbat Democrats as a cushion for support (even if it meant giving some of them a Chairmanship or two) ?”

That’s the question. Did he answer it? Cause damn. Surely there’s some Lincoln Davis types sitting in 65% Nobama districts.


102 posted on 01/13/2009 4:32:20 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“getting 6 figures more votes for our candidates”

And how do liberal papers defend that? Does anyone ever ask the rat leaders “how is that right?”

NM I know the answer to my question.


103 posted on 01/13/2009 4:36:27 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Several of the GOP members were angry enough to rip that little prick’s head off from his shoulders. All that would be left is Boss Hogg’s hand coming out of his throat.


104 posted on 01/13/2009 4:42:08 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Impy

No, haven’t heard back. Unlike the GOP caucus, Naifeh has held such absolute power that he has never had a single rodent vote against him during his time as far as I can tell... and with this farce of a coup d’etat, he still hasn’t. He’s had plenty of RINOs vote for him, though (even when Naifeh has NEVER given the GOP a Committee Chairmanship).


105 posted on 01/13/2009 4:44:34 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I recall 1996 I think it was some state house candidate murdered another, I think that was TN.


106 posted on 01/13/2009 4:45:25 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: headstamp 2

Is not it time to create a new party?


107 posted on 01/13/2009 4:45:33 PM PST by Ulysse
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To: Impy

They don’t defend it, they don’t report it. We got 220,000 more votes for GOP candidates for the State House, 54% of the vote (the rodents got 43.7%). 1.1 million to 900k. The rodent leaders, and especially the Judas-traitor, don’t care they just disenfranchised that 1.1 million voters and gave the middle finger to every last one of us.


108 posted on 01/13/2009 4:54:42 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jan/10/panel-decides-not-to-recommend-candidates/

The GOP choice for the job was a RINO it seems.

“McDaniel won the GOP nomination over Rep. Frank Niceley, R-Strawberry Plains, at a caucus meeting last month. Niceley criticized McDaniel’s conservative credentials, noting he once voted for a state income tax and has supported Democrat Naifeh in past votes for House speaker.”

Sigh


109 posted on 01/13/2009 5:00:08 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

1998. It was Byron Looper. Looper was a strange man who first started running for office as a Democrat in Georgia in the ‘80s, but never won. He came to TN and tried running for several offices, this time as a Republican. He changed his name to “Low Tax” (literally and legally). He discovered an odd loophole in the law that if your opponent dies during the course of an election, their name is immediately stricken from the ballot, and you are automatically elected. Two weeks before the election, he assassinated (and that is the right usage of the word) State Senator Tommy Burks (quite probably one of the most Conservative members of the Senate, of either party, a DINO) while he was out, IIRC, getting his mail. He was quickly located, and arrested. But he was still on the ballot and would cruise to a general election victory. The Dems (and the GOP, for that matter) quickly mobilized to get Burks’s widow as a write-in candidate, and she won over Looper. In 2000, he was sentenced to life without parole.


110 posted on 01/13/2009 5:01:59 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Impy

http://www.ourcampaigns.com/CandidateDetail.html?CandidateID=112016


111 posted on 01/13/2009 5:04:06 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy
Naifeh may hold records for power in TN, but his Illinois equivalent Mike Madigan still outranks him by 8 years (speaker since '83 vs. speaker since '91). These RATs seem to hold power as long as they're breathing. Even when the other party holds a nominal "majority", they'll still pulling the damn strings behind the scenes.

I agree that you're unlikely to get any "conservative" Dems to break ranks and support the Republican. RAT party discipline is incredible. It works the same way on the federal level -- the Dems will get RINOs to crossover and vote to put RATs in charge, but the Zell Millers, Gene Taylors, and Heath Schuler's of the world will continue to vote for socialists to run their chambers, no matter what happens. And in Illinois, we have have a handful of southern Illinois Dems who are to the right of Henry Hyde on the issues and whose districts went to McCain by almost 60%. Doesn't matter -- they vote to have Emil Jones & Mike Madigan run the show, and continue to get re-elected.

BTW, owing to their constiuencies -- Mike Madigan (D) represents an heavily irish-Catholic southwest Cook County constituency -- House Minority Tom Cross (RINO) represents a rural farming community in Kendall county -- means our RAT Speaker is socially conservative and pro-life (at least on paper) while our "Republican" leader is socially liberal and pro-abortion. Kinda reminds me of Pennsylvania's Senators.

Also, taking out Kent Williams may be harder than it sounds. We had a treasonous State Rep. (Paul Froehlich of Schamburg) here in Illinois who got re-elected in 2006 by pledging to advance the Republican Party in Illinois (he was township GOP chairman at the time), then he turned around and voted for Madigan for Speaker, and caucused with the RATs. He was promptly expelled from the party and since the district has a Republican State Senator, it seems to everyone -- including liberal Democrat media pundits -- that he would lose to a GOP challenger next time. The RATs had no use for him since they had already had a safe majority, and they didn't want another pro-life, pro-gun RAT who wasn't "progressive" enough for them. Well, Speaker Mike poured zillions of dollars into his primary campaign, and he was nominated on the RAT line over his "progressive, true Democrat" opponent. Then in the general election, his GOP challenger was underfunded thanks to Republicans wasting their time on dead-on-arrival U.S. Senate candidate Steve Sauerberg, and the surge of black RAT turnout with Obama on top of the ticket. In the end, Froehlich squeaked by, even though he had around a 38% approval rating after betraying his party and lying to his constituents last time.

112 posted on 01/13/2009 5:07:18 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Impy

McDaniel is a RINO scumbag who also ought to be run out. He was replaced as Minority Leader back in 2003 after 6 years of practicing kissing Boss Hogg’s big fat RED ass. He’s from West TN as well. He was NOT nominated as Speaker Pro Tempore today after Traitor Williams’s apostasy. Nashville Republican (the lone Republican from our county) Beth Halteman-Harwell was nominated for that office. She lost by 1 vote to DeBerry... Traitor Williams’s vote.


113 posted on 01/13/2009 5:09:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I hope it ends up on you tube or something. Yes I do stare at car wrecks.


114 posted on 01/13/2009 5:13:53 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: BillyBoy

Naifeh has been Speaker for 18 years (20 now with his puppet), but he was the real power even before that, Majority Leader since 1985. He’s been in the House since 1975 (a Watergate baby), defeating a GOP incumbent back when we almost took the House in that period. The Republicans simply don’t know how to play hardball. I warned one of the Conservative leaders in the House, Stacey Campfield, that Naifeh would pull a stunt like this and they didn’t seem to take it into account.

But we got rid of the other traitor Mike Williams, who didn’t run for reelection as a Republican (lost the general as an “Independent”, although backed by the rodents). One interesting precedent the Democrats established last year was their stripping a Democrat incumbent for renomination to the loser because they cited “Republicans voting in the primary”, though no way to prove that. If Traitor Kent Williams tries to run again as a Republican, we can use that and strip him of his nomination. Then he will have to run as a write-in candidate (almost always unsuccessful). His sole option now is to run as a Democrat or Independent.

The rodents know their days are numbered. We got 54% of the vote, they got only 43.7%, and it keeps widening. It will be complete open warfare in 2010, both in the primaries and general. The GOP Senate will likely be untouched, and I expect our numbers to continue to widen there with possible retirements. We swept all but one of our targets in ‘08, and there are more for us in ‘10. In the 34-member body, we could conceivably win all but about 6 seats if we get control of redistricting, leaving the rodents only in urban Nashville and Memphis, Blacks and liberal Whites.


115 posted on 01/13/2009 5:24:18 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Zack Attack

Yes. But the rats still have the NC house. :(


116 posted on 01/13/2009 5:28:32 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“He was NOT nominated as Speaker Pro Tempore today after Traitor Williams’s apostasy.”

Excellent and McDaniel was a good boy and voted for Halteman-Harwell? Wow.

Oh I read your posts about it the whole legislature together votes for the state offices so the rats are out. Excellent.

How come Ramsey had your moonbat Senator in a chairmanship?

““Low Tax””

Yes that’s it. Well I’d don’t think I’d be with the 4.71% in voting for a mentally ill murderer. I wonder that they were thinking. Funny if a rat in the say the Bronx committed murder he’d probably still win in a landslide.


117 posted on 01/13/2009 5:42:54 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Why didn't the guy just jump parties like Jeffords? Is there something in the Tennessee Constitution that prohibits that?

This seems like a "too clever by half" move to just wrest the 50-49 majority away from the Republicans.

118 posted on 01/13/2009 5:57:30 PM PST by MNSlim
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To: Ulysse

“Is not it time to create a new party?:

I vote we don’t create a’d@mn thing new but simply return to the ORIGINAL government, circa 1789-1791, and then we THROW A PARTY!


119 posted on 01/13/2009 6:06:44 PM PST by shoutingandpointing (Just say, "nn-nn-NO!" to Campbell's soup.)
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To: Impy
"Excellent and McDaniel was a good boy and voted for Halteman-Harwell? Wow."

Apparently so.

"Oh I read your posts about it the whole legislature together votes for the state offices so the rats are out. Excellent."

MAY be out. After what happened today, I expect chicanery is quite possible tomorrow. I'd literally give the rodent incumbents 50-50 to be retained. Boss Hogg needs just 3 more RINOs.

"How come Ramsey had your moonbat Senator in a chairmanship?"

We had a one-seat majority. He wanted to appear bipartisan. This will be the first time in recent memory that the majority party will hold all Chairmanships in the Senate (early '90s ? Late '80s ? I'd have to scour the Bluebooks to see). We have a 5-seat majority, so we don't owe them squat, and after the House theft, especially so.

"Yes that’s it. Well I’d don’t think I’d be with the 4.71% in voting for a mentally ill murderer. I wonder that they were thinking. Funny if a rat in the say the Bronx committed murder he’d probably still win in a landslide."

More than likely most of those were people that voted early or absentee ballot before the murder. Had he not assassinated Tommy Burks, he'd probably have gotten maybe 25% or so. I remember some media types lampooning the GOP that he'd get 5% without taking that into account (given that most candidates don't tend to assassinate their opponents). Of course, there may have been some kooks that got some kicks voting for a killer. The GOP never much challenged Burks because of his voting record (but never was able to persuade him to switch parties, since our rural areas west of East TN were the last to go Republican downballot, and they're still in the process of moving our way. 10 years from now, most of the rural areas will be solidly in our column, but we're not entirely there, yet).

120 posted on 01/13/2009 6:08:47 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: BillyBoy

“BTW, owing to their constiuencies ...”

Kendall county farmers are social liberals?

“Froehlich “

I didn’t know he was even challenged in the rat primary. To bad could’ve been the next Micheal Forbes (D-NY).


121 posted on 01/13/2009 6:12:59 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: MNSlim

Nothing prevented him from switching parties at any point. He STILL considers himself a “loyal Republican” because he “voted” for one - himself. He chose to keep his mouth shut and intentions oblivious. He lied to his constituents, he lied to the party, he violated his oath & pledge, he kept lying all the way up until his vote. He told everyone and pledged his support to Mumpower. But let’s make no mistake here, he’s a stupid man and a puppet for the real power in the House, 18-year Speaker Naifeh, one of the biggest thugs and tyrants in American politics today. He had to keep Naifeh up with him on the Speaker’s rostrum because he has no idea about parliamentary procedure and was literally taking orders as he stood there as Naifeh whispered in his ear. I’ve witnessed some real disgusting spectacles and power grabs, and that was one of the most egregious I’ve seen in a civilized nation in recent memory. One traitorous little weasel gave the finger to over 1.1 million Tennesseans that cast their votes for Republicans to be the majority party - over 54% of the vote.


122 posted on 01/13/2009 6:15:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: BillyBoy

I convinced that on paper we should have 30 seats. I didn’t know of these ratings. 2008 Dillard 50, Maloney 33. Most score better in 2008 than 2007. Possibly they could use some refinement and a wider selection of bills.

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/08Scorecard.pdf

You had Maureen Murphy as a Rep huh, too bad about that.

“Mike Madigan never really lost power even during his two year stint as “minority leader” “

Really? They did get rid of straight ticket voting, I’m sure he didn’t want that.


123 posted on 01/13/2009 6:35:43 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Williams is scum and should be kicked out of the party NOW!


124 posted on 01/13/2009 7:05:03 PM PST by oldvike
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Sounds like the recent mess up in Canada or the affair that got Jim Black of NC sent to the clink (not that the idiot voters over in NC noticed).


125 posted on 01/13/2009 7:09:59 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Cheddar Cat

“The likeness is uncanny”

Dress rehearsal for the BIG show...the Senate dirtbags are taking notes on how the public swallows this.


126 posted on 01/13/2009 7:24:31 PM PST by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

This infuriates me. I really hate that this has happened to our state and to a good man like Jason Mumpower. I know Jason and it just makes me sick to see him the victim of such traitorous behavior. Democrats and RINOS are the lowest form of life in this country. They undermine everything good and decent. I say we should fight for a recall of this horrible man.


127 posted on 01/13/2009 7:24:45 PM PST by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: NellieMae

I warned Stacey Campfield that Boss Hogg wasn’t going quietly and that Mumpower needed to get some Democrats to ensure a cushion (even if it meant doling out Chairmanships to them) to guard against this chicanery. You couldn’t afford to take any chances with a 1-seat majority. All Naifeh had to do was find a very weak link, and he found his nice little RINO meatpuppet for the next 2 years. Kent Williams is a brainless weasel. He doesn’t know how the House operates and has to ask everyone (read: Naifeh) how to even run a session. He was barking like a rabid dog at his now FORMER GOP colleagues, “You got a PROBLEM with me as Speaker ?”, etc.

I did feel sorry when the tv cameras cut to Mumpower’s reaction, he did not know what to do. I wish they had taken my advice. If I was on his staff, I’d have played hardball and gotten as many Democrats to come over as possible, especially focusing on the ones Naifeh has screwed over the years. You can’t play honorably with criminals and thugs. They change the rules to suit their agenda.


128 posted on 01/13/2009 7:34:01 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Do you think anything can be done to fix this?


129 posted on 01/13/2009 7:45:35 PM PST by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: NellieMae

Williams would have to be removed from the House in order to necessitate another election (assuming there would be one, and the Speaker Pro Tempore, a Democrat hack and crony of Naifeh’s, wouldn’t move up for the remainder of the session). I can’t recall the last time when a Speaker was removed (or died) during a term. If he was removed, I have a sneaking suspicion yet another weak-willed RINO would be bribed and installed as a puppet for Naifeh, such as former Minority Leader Steve McDaniel. There may be a dozen such RINOs in the House that are vulnerable to bribery/coercion. I’ll add, too, after seeing Williams in action that he doesn’t appear mentally sound and will snap under the pressure of this session, and he fully deserves to. I hope the GOP “Gaslight”’s his butt right into the nervous hospital.

The California Democrats did this in 1995 after the GOP won a majority in the Assembly. It took the Republicans a year and recalling 2 RINO puppets to finally install the party choice as Speaker. Sadly, he wasn’t in office a whole year before the Democrats won back the majority in ‘96.


130 posted on 01/13/2009 7:56:00 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Didn’t this happen in Texas too?


131 posted on 01/13/2009 8:31:50 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Believe me, I'm not being intentionally obtuse but I don't know how this punk thinks that this ham handed maneuver will endure.

Thanks for alerting us to this story. It's one of the craziest political capers I've seen in a while. I'd rather kick Williams' ass out of the Party, lose the majority and use the event as a rallying cry for 2010 then recognize a guy like Williams as any kind of Leader.

132 posted on 01/13/2009 8:32:35 PM PST by MNSlim
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To: St. Louis Conservative

A group of RINOs (16 ?) and all the Democrats voted for a RINO Speaker in TX, but this was expected to happen, as had been warned for some time that Craddick wouldn’t have the votes for a 4th term. Wrong and weasely, but not out of the blue. This in TN literally was out of the blue. This guy is a NOBODY, barely out of his freshman term, and not very mentally sound. He lied to his colleagues right up until the vote that he was supporting the Republican candidate for Speaker. He was sworn in within seconds of the farce vote and kept within arms’ reach of the Democrat Boss the entire time.


133 posted on 01/13/2009 8:37:15 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What is his district like? Conservative, or borderline?Seems like a prime candidate for a primary challenge. I bet the TN GOP is irate right now.


134 posted on 01/13/2009 8:41:40 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: MNSlim

Short of finding a way to remove him from the legislature, this stunt will stand for 2 whole years. We don’t, to my knowledge, have a recall option for legislators. Speakers are very autocratic and have absolute power (the legislature, with a one-seat majority could govern without input from the Governor), so the Republicans can remain totally shut out, even with a technical majority (of course, that’s not the case any more). We only have a majority in the overall general assembly of both bodies, which is good for electing Constitutional officers (although we’re about to find out if even that will work tomorrow when they vote on them), but we need majorities electing Republicans to the Speakerships or we get nothing.


135 posted on 01/13/2009 8:41:56 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Carter County in East TN ? It’s a solid Republican district. The Dems don’t field candidates too often in it... now we know why. Williams beat a Conservative Vietnamese-American incumbent in the primary in ‘06, quite probably with Democrat help. The prior incumbent sought a rematch and lost by a wider margin (incumbents don’t lose too often). Since the Dems stripped a member of their own party who won a primary, even if Williams were to be renominated again in ‘10 (and frankly, I hope he doesn’t last long enough to make it), we could use that as a precedent and strip him and award the nomination to his predecessor. He’d then have to run as a write-in with Democrat support, and write-ins almost never win except in extraordinary circumstances (such as when the widow of a Senator was elected when her husband was assassinated by his opponent).


136 posted on 01/13/2009 8:47:27 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well at this point the best I can say is in my tag line. Believe me no one in the Tennessee government disgust me more than Lord Naifeh /extreme sarcasm in use of the title. He has kept the Speakers seat away from the voice and will of people of this state as long as he's held it. I know from experience no one talks to him or writes him and gets heard unless they are from his district.

I was so enraged by the state GOP this election the only one I voted for this time around was the state Rep. The national offices I voted Independent. Can you think of anything in this clowns district he was wanting that Naifeh and the DEMs may have promised for this?

137 posted on 01/13/2009 9:31:20 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: cva66snipe

We’ll find out before long.


138 posted on 01/13/2009 9:50:49 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The Dems in NC bribed a Rep. to jump to their side several years go thereby stealing the NC house. Both the speaker at that time and the Rep. went to prison.


140 posted on 01/14/2009 2:05:09 AM PST by saganite
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To: Cheddar Cat

Enough with the ‘filibuster-proof majority’ already. The very first time that 41 Senate votes stand in the way of the Democrats getting something passed, they will do away with the filibuster rule by simple majority.


141 posted on 01/14/2009 3:00:47 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Mojave

My college roommate was the lead prosecuting attorney who put Setencich away.


142 posted on 01/14/2009 6:38:13 AM PST by nd76
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To: Onelifetogive

Sadly enough, that will probably be the extent of it.


143 posted on 01/14/2009 7:15:54 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: nd76

Good job.


145 posted on 01/14/2009 8:07:25 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: GeronL

yup... damn shame too


146 posted on 01/14/2009 1:14:01 PM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: saganite

Yeah, though the exact equivalent would’ve been if the rodents had made Decker Speaker.


147 posted on 01/14/2009 1:33:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: JSDude1

Dem’s have been running as republicans for a long time now but they have a D at the end of their name.

Once they get in however they dont do what they run on thus fooling a certain population


148 posted on 01/14/2009 2:05:43 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

...and I imagine in Tennessee it wouldn’t be too tough to find a Zell Miller type Democrat or two who ought to be republicans anyway. Sounds like TN needs a Jesse Hellms or Terry Dolan type leader who is not afraid to kick somebody in the gonads in order to win.


149 posted on 01/14/2009 3:21:38 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Antoninus; Raven6; wardaddy

“The full-court press is on, and the GOP is the Washington Generals.”

Dead Rinos and roll-overs to lead us. We’re screwed.


150 posted on 01/14/2009 3:25:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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