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Big Brother's new target: Tracking of all firearms
WND ^ | January 13, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 01/14/2009 5:48:28 AM PST by Joiseydude

U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., is hoping to pass a firearm-licensing bill that will significantly rewrite gun-ownership laws in America.

Among the more controversial provisions of the bill are requirements that all handgun owners submit to the federal government a photo, thumb print and mental heath records. Further, the bill would order the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer and owner's address in America.

The bill claims its purpose is "to protect the pubic against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of firearms to criminals and youth."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2register; 4confiscation; banglist; blackpanthers; bloat; bobbyrush; democratcongress; democrats; guncontrol; gunregistration; molonlabe; racists; rush; shallnotbeinfringed
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1 posted on 01/14/2009 5:48:28 AM PST by Joiseydude
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To: Joiseydude
to protect the pubic against...

Rest assured that any initiative beginning with these words is looking to strip your rights away.

2 posted on 01/14/2009 5:51:10 AM PST by Sax
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To: Joiseydude
The bill claims its purpose is "to protect the pubic against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of firearms to criminals and youth."

So it's OK to sell or transfer firearms to criminals as long as the transaction is recorded?
3 posted on 01/14/2009 5:52:02 AM PST by chrisser (The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
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To: Joiseydude

and a Dhimmicrat from Illinois, who’d a thunk it?


4 posted on 01/14/2009 5:52:16 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Joiseydude
The bill claims its purpose is "to protect the pubic (sic) against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of firearms to criminals and youth."

So he's got no problem with the recorded "sale or transfer of firearms to criminals and youth"?

5 posted on 01/14/2009 5:53:10 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: chrisser

That’s the deal, being a former black panther,

his constituency has no intention of following these laws.

This is a blatant attempt to “disarm whitey”.


6 posted on 01/14/2009 5:53:29 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Joiseydude

This bill has no merit!

It is an attempt to ITENTIFY and CONTROL all handguns in the USA !

A very small later change in the bill will allow confiscation of the weapons from the citizens under the guise of emergency, etc.


7 posted on 01/14/2009 5:54:20 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: Joiseydude

JOIN THE N.R.A.!


8 posted on 01/14/2009 5:54:30 AM PST by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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To: Joiseydude

Bobby “Everything White Is Racist” Rush??
you-gotta-be-kidding...


9 posted on 01/14/2009 5:54:46 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: mmanager

Join the NRA and the GOA!

This needs to be fought tooth and nail.


10 posted on 01/14/2009 5:55:24 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Joiseydude

Oh, and a registry worked so well in Canada, didn’t it?


11 posted on 01/14/2009 5:56:06 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Joiseydude

Hey Bobby, how about making public all the records of all criminals with picture, thumb print, DNA and if any questionable Mental health records keep them in prison....
.Forever !


12 posted on 01/14/2009 5:56:52 AM PST by chatham
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To: Joiseydude

...and, of course, the criminals will be in total compliance with this bill.


13 posted on 01/14/2009 5:56:54 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Joiseydude

But the Kenyan Svengali told me my guns were safe......


14 posted on 01/14/2009 5:58:00 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Million Minuteman March (Spring 2009))
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To: xcamel
It makes perfect sense, in light of this picture:

a disarmed "middle class" will have no recourse when the thuggery and intimidation ("payback") starts.

15 posted on 01/14/2009 5:58:02 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Joiseydude

Big Brother’s new target: Tracking of all firearms of law-adibing citizens, leaving criminals untouched.

There, fixed the title.


16 posted on 01/14/2009 5:58:33 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Joiseydude

Hey Bobby, how about making public all the records of all criminals with picture, thumb print, DNA and if any questionable Mental health records keep them in prison....
.Forever !


17 posted on 01/14/2009 5:59:19 AM PST by chatham
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To: Joiseydude

Bobby Rush is a former Black Panther!!! Another example how the commie left is getting more and more control in the country.


18 posted on 01/14/2009 6:00:15 AM PST by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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To: Joiseydude

These people are just BEGGING for a fight.


19 posted on 01/14/2009 6:01:32 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Joiseydude

“The Public” (as such) has a great deal more to fear from the former Black Panthers and other college radicals who now control large swaths of our government, educational and cultural institutions than it does from 80,000,000 law-abiding firearms owners.


20 posted on 01/14/2009 6:01:52 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Ronald Reagan had a vision of America. Barack Obama has a vision of Barack Obama.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Joiseydude
By all means join the NRA.

In most cases "better late than never" works.

Not so sure, in this case.


Oh ... and you may want to think about arming yourself too.

I hear there may be some laws passed restricting your accessibility to do so.

21 posted on 01/14/2009 6:02:47 AM PST by G.Mason (If you surrender your right to own a gun, you surrender your right to your life)
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To: Joiseydude

In the lingo of the ‘hood, one day we’ll read a news story about somebody ‘puttin a cap in da azz’ of Bobby Rush, and he’ll turn into a black James Brady, just you watch and see.


22 posted on 01/14/2009 6:03:08 AM PST by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne: "Politics Ain't Beanbag!")
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To: kenmcg

And what behavior do black panthers exhibit?

Violence toward whitey. Now, what demographic do you think this firearm ban is targeting?

“Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians.”


23 posted on 01/14/2009 6:03:57 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: G.Mason

Sorry Bobby but Mental Health records are protected by the HIPPA Law.


24 posted on 01/14/2009 6:04:37 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Joiseydude

I think that is really funny considering that Rush went to jail on a firearms charge.


25 posted on 01/14/2009 6:05:03 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: G.Mason

bttt


26 posted on 01/14/2009 6:07:37 AM PST by panaxanax (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't.)
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To: MrB

Great quote, MrB, where is it from?


27 posted on 01/14/2009 6:12:27 AM PST by DBrow
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To: mkjessup
and he’ll turn into a black James Brady, just you watch and see

He already is a black James Brady, though he didn't need to be shot to get there. (not to disparage James Brady)

28 posted on 01/14/2009 6:13:39 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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To: Joiseydude

You know, I am a natural born citizen of these United States. I grew up in a land of freedom, a country that placed very few constraints on my opportunity for success. I did a hitch in the US Army during that pathetic, failed expedition into Southeast Asia. My wife and I raised three wonderful kids out here in the heartland, and they’ve all grown into productive, focused adults working toward their own success.

However, in the past 15-20 years or so (since Bush 41, anyway) we’ve been on a downward spiral that appears to be accelerating. We’ve seen the face of radical islam brought to our very shores. We’ve watched as the political class has pushed their socialist agenda on the country, with the apparent agreement of the multiple generations of entitlement minded sheeple. We’ve witnessed near constant assaults on our rights as espoused by the founders of this grand experiment. Our voices have gone unheard in the great discourse of the time...more government versus less government.

Sadly, in recent years I’ve given more and more credence to the notion that there MUST be somewhere in the world that still values individual effort, personal responsibility, and the freedom of each person to carve out their own success.

It will take just a couple of idiotic notions like this one to drive many of us to find that place, or create it, and start over...

It’s time to refresh the tree of Liberty, IMO.


29 posted on 01/14/2009 6:14:59 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: DBrow
The fictional character (like John Gault), Alexander Hope.
from the novel "Hope" by L. Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman
30 posted on 01/14/2009 6:16:09 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Joiseydude
The bill claims its purpose is "to protect the pubic against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of firearms to criminals and youth."

The majority of "problem weapons" are stolen in the first place. Does he think those with stolen weapons are gonna record any transfers or sales?

31 posted on 01/14/2009 6:24:30 AM PST by Zack Attack
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To: DuncanWaring
Basically, you'd have to say yes. Rep. Rush was once convicted of some sort of unspecified "illegal gun possession" ~ either for possessing an "illegal gun", or that he wasn't allowed to possess guns, or something.

I suspect he's trying to legalize whatever it was he did so you'd be well advised to look for a retroactivity clause in this proposal.

32 posted on 01/14/2009 6:28:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: MrB

Will there be a “Cultural Exemption” in this law? - Plaxico


33 posted on 01/14/2009 6:36:51 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

Selective enforcement, cries of racism when it is applied to the non-target group. Yes, there will be de facto exemptions.


34 posted on 01/14/2009 6:39:02 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Joiseydude

I believe Bobby Rush is the same moron who sponsored HR 4040, the legislation which was signed by Pres. Bush and will take effect Feb. 10 requiring all manufacturers of children’s products to use a third party to test products for harmful substances such as lead and other chemicals. This legislation, as now written, will put hundreds of thousands of small businesses out of business.


35 posted on 01/14/2009 6:41:38 AM PST by OldBlondBabe
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To: Joiseydude
This is the last step before confiscation, "for the good and safety of the collective", of course.

And why not? It worked for Hitler. It worked for Castro.

And with the election of Obama, we are near that tipping point where at least half the public are apathetic and brain-dead enough to accept it.

36 posted on 01/14/2009 6:41:41 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: Joiseydude

Way beyond a “Duckbite”.


37 posted on 01/14/2009 6:45:37 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: Joiseydude

Dear Sir:
Let me say this with as much respect as I can muster. You want my guns, come get them. Oh, and bring your lunch because it’s going to take you awhile.


38 posted on 01/14/2009 6:46:16 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Joiseydude

To all you gun owners in IL, IN, PA, OH, CO, WA, and FL who voted for Obama... I hope you lose your guns first.


39 posted on 01/14/2009 6:51:51 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Thanks for the warm wishes, but no gun owner I know voted for Obama. PA (or any state) is not a monolith. Keep that in mind when bad-mouthing entire groups of people.


40 posted on 01/14/2009 6:58:32 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
I read stuff like this and all I can do is shake my head in disbelief.

I used to say, "What part of 'shall not be infringed' do they NOT understand?"
But now...I am convinced that they don't give a shiite about anything the Constitution has to say. The country of our fathers is most assuredly and truly dead.

41 posted on 01/14/2009 6:58:55 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Peace means one guy has a bigger stick than the other guy. Period.)
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To: Joiseydude

I’m all for protecting the “pubic”.


42 posted on 01/14/2009 7:01:37 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Their worldview does NOT value the Constitution for the same reason they place no value in tradition or culture.

They view themselves, and especially their elites, as being better capable of making decisions than anyone in the past ever could. Contracts, vows, and Constitutions hold less weight than an individual making decisions based on current, modern knowledge, which is inherently in larger quantity now than when the contract/vow was made.


43 posted on 01/14/2009 7:04:42 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MrB

ping


44 posted on 01/14/2009 7:05:40 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Joiseydude

nice...


45 posted on 01/14/2009 7:06:57 AM PST by Jonx6
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To: PubliusMM

...that’s thought provoking.


46 posted on 01/14/2009 7:10:11 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Sax

After reading this string yesterday, I plunked down $450 for another 1,000 rounds of .223 and a couple more AR clips.

I dunno. It seems like everything is spiraling out of control?


47 posted on 01/14/2009 7:13:52 AM PST by Man from Oz
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To: Joiseydude

“Among the more controversial provisions of the bill are requirements that all handgun owners submit to the federal government a photo, thumb print and mental heath records. Further, the bill would order the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer and owner’s address in America.”

I may be behind the curve here, but where the heck do they get the power to do this? Never mind the 2nd amendment, what about expressed powers?


48 posted on 01/14/2009 7:16:44 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: thethirddegree
I’m all for protecting the “pubic”.

I'd much rather protect my pubic without government help.

49 posted on 01/14/2009 7:22:25 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (0bama must be well-endowed - look at how often he steps on his d---.)
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To: Joiseydude

I’m waiting to hear from all the Dem congressmen who were elected 2 years ago as “pro-gun” representatives.....


50 posted on 01/14/2009 7:25:00 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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