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Geithner Should Not be Secretary of the Treasury
The American Thinker ^ | 1/14/09 | Feldman , Lifson

Posted on 01/15/2009 6:25:15 AM PST by the Real fifi

The media rush to exonerate Timothy Geithner's failure to pay his self-employment tax as an "innocent mistake" (in Obama's words) ignores a crucial fact: even after he knew of his liability thanks to an IRS audit, he failed to pay taxes on years covered by the statute of limitations. Additionally, his failure to pay in the first place flies in the face of the fact that his employer, the IMF, notified him regularly of his obligation, and even paid him half of the tax liability, in lieu of the employer's share, money which he kept for himself.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confirmation; geithner; obama; treasury
The story that it was a mistake to have failed to pay these doesn't hold water. Geithner lacks the character for the post and should not be confirmed.
1 posted on 01/15/2009 6:25:15 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

Here is what others are saying:

UPDATE: Additional facts have come to light that make this situation much more serious. Byron York reports that IMF employees received additional compensation that was earmarked for their portion of FICA taxes. Their incomes were, as the IMF put it, “grossed up.” Thus, Geithner accepted “reimbursement” from the IMF for taxes that he didn’t pay. Not only that, he certified that he would pay the taxes:

The IMF did not withhold state and federal income taxes or self-employment taxes — Social Security and Medicare — from its employees’ paychecks. But the IMF took great care to explain to those employees, in detail and frequently, what their tax responsibilities were. ...

The tax allowance has turned out to be a key part of the Geithner situation. This is how it worked. IMF employees were expected to pay their taxes out of their own money. But the IMF then gave them an extra allowance, known as a “gross-up,” to cover those tax payments. This was done in the Annual Tax Allowance Request, in which the employee filled out some basic information — marital status, dependent children, etc. — and the IMF then estimated the amount of taxes the employee would owe and gave the employee a corresponding allowance.

At the end of the tax allowance form were the words, “I hereby certify that all the information contained herein is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and that I will pay the taxes for which I have received tax allowance payments from the Fund.” Geithner signed the form. He accepted the allowance payment. He didn’t pay the tax. For several years in a row.

If Byron’s description is correct (and I’m confident it is), it represents a level of carelessness that is not going to be tolerated in a Treasury Secretary at this moment in history. I expect Obama to withdraw Geithner’s nomination.

VIA POWERLINE BLOG


2 posted on 01/15/2009 6:26:22 AM PST by HD1200
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To: the Real fifi

Geithner lacks the character....

Sadly, CHARACTER, doesn’t seem to matter anymore.


3 posted on 01/15/2009 6:26:55 AM PST by FES0844 (FES0844)
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To: the Real fifi

I know college interns who work as subcontractors who pay their taxes. Are they overqualified to run this banana republic?


4 posted on 01/15/2009 6:29:34 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: FES0844
Funny story....today is Jan 15th and my quarterly tax payments are due.... New slogan "WWGD"....What would Geithner do?

If Geithner lived in California, he could send an IOU to the Franchise Tax Board....

5 posted on 01/15/2009 6:30:13 AM PST by pointsal
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To: the Real fifi

Geithner is an undocumented taxpayer, dodging the taxes Americans refuse to dodge.


6 posted on 01/15/2009 6:30:34 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: HD1200
Here's the problem ~ IMF has lots of big ideas for how entire countries should run their national accounting systems, and where to direct investments, and pay their loans.

On the other hand IMF's own internal accounting system is not capable of handling the tax withholding needs of its own employees.

Why anyone would want to continue tolerating this level of indolence and incompetence in the IMF is beyond my reckoning.

Obama's FIRST ACT should be to extricate the US from the IMF.

7 posted on 01/15/2009 6:31:14 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: the Real fifi
hey, he should be secretary. All he did was confirm that taxes are for stupid law abiding people not the elites. Social Security and Medicare taxes are for the little people.

Just like drunk driving, drowning a girl, and leaving the scene of an accident is punishable only if you're not an elite. Driving under the influence of drugs in DC.... you do it, you go to jail... a Kennedy does it... Congress. ..... oh and they get to lecture us about how they know how to "fix" the country.

It's all cr#p. Everything. For the next four years we will see a collection of incompetents, thieves, shysters, idiots, sloths, perverts and scammers.

I remember how Rubin was such a genius at finances. I remember him telling us how we should run the country's money supply and spending. He did wonders over at CITI.

Starve the beast. Cut taxes, get spending out of DC. That's the only way. RINO's are just democrat-lite. They are actually worse than democrats, cause they are the enemy within our own camp.

8 posted on 01/15/2009 6:32:19 AM PST by erman
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To: FES0844; HD1200
"Character"?

On the contrary, he has proven and perfect character for the job. We just need to slighty adjust the job title.

Thief in Chief

After all, look at how well Paulson performed.

9 posted on 01/15/2009 6:34:47 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Satire writers should get a bailout. The current reality is putting them out of business.)
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To: the Real fifi
Understand full well if this were a pubbie nominee there would be nothing but outrage from the ‘rats & their allies in the liberal msm. Recall vaguely, don't remember the name, a female NY state attorney (in gov’t) who was chosen to run against Hillary for the senate seat. She was found to have employed a nannie & didn't pay the appropriate state taxes. Once the story was out she withdrew her candidacy.
10 posted on 01/15/2009 6:39:43 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: muawiyah

No. You
re wrong. IMF is an international organization exempt from that obligation which is why US employees are responsible for paying it. The IMF—with all its cushy bennies —nevertheless reimburses its employees for what would be the IMF share so that when the employees pay the tax it is less onerous. It’s less onerous , indeed, when, like Geithner , they simply pocket that extra money and pay nothing to the US treasury.


11 posted on 01/15/2009 6:46:16 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi
Tim Geitner is Mr. Peter Principle personified. Boss of the NY Fed, epicenter of the Financial Disaster. Lets promote him to Treasury Secretary.
12 posted on 01/15/2009 6:47:14 AM PST by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: the Real fifi
Why should people who can't follow tax law be disqualified from serving as Secretary of the Treasury? /s

On second thought, I don't have a problem there. What should disqualify him is his giving lip-service to the idea that our tax code is workable.

13 posted on 01/15/2009 6:51:40 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: the Real fifi

The question is does the republicans have enough Balls to block it??? I would bet NO!!


14 posted on 01/15/2009 6:58:25 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: org.whodat

Why not write your Senator and ask him if he thinks having a tax cheat’s signature on our tax forms is a good idea?


15 posted on 01/15/2009 7:03:56 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: muawiyah

What people are not considering is the effect on the market if this guy is not eventually confirmed...knowing what I know about the IMF, I don’t think this is a big deal. However, the market dropping like a bomb does concern me. I hope the GOP is prepared to own the worsening economy if they do this because they will. Even Fox Business asked pointed questions of Vitter (why is this guy even out there;every time he is a guest, afterword someone mentions the prostitute scandal) concerning the effect on the market...The GOP has known about this since December;it looks very political. I don’t think Americans will take kindly to any party playing partisan games with the economy.


16 posted on 01/15/2009 7:04:01 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: the Real fifi

Geithner lacks character

he will never have the stature and credibility a US Treasury Secretary needs to ask the American taxpayer to make any kind of sacrifices, or to honor their commmitments under the tax code

he is obviously a greedy arrogant elitist - but then, he fits right in with the new era of zerO

if he is confirmed, then any US taxpayer who paid any kind of IRS penalty for making an “honest” mistake during 2001-2006, should receive a refund of that penalty, since Geithner paid NONE

Now, on to Charlie tax-free Rangel


17 posted on 01/15/2009 7:05:27 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: the Real fifi

Why stop there? This is becoming a highly flawed (and crooked) cabinet with this clown, Hillary, and Holder on their way in the door.


18 posted on 01/15/2009 7:41:04 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: HD1200
All the corruption, misfeasance and malfeasance swirling around him and his life -- yet Obama's credentials are sterling??!!

How far a slick tongue carries a man!

19 posted on 01/15/2009 7:45:55 AM PST by bvw
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To: the Real fifi

excellent idea !! I think I’ll do it.


20 posted on 01/15/2009 7:49:20 AM PST by sunny48
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To: the Real fifi
It’s less onerous, indeed, when, like Geithner , they simply pocket that extra money and pay nothing to the US treasury.

Makes me wonder if more of the American "NON-employees" of the IMF did the same thing as Geithner.

The arrangement might have been viewed as sort of a "double perk" for the Americans in the IMF club.

21 posted on 01/15/2009 8:56:08 AM PST by syriacus
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To: syriacus

Yes, according to yesterday’s NYT about 50% of them. They are transnationalists in their views and are therefore entitled not tohave to pay taxes you know.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/01/the_geithner_grossup_grossout.html


22 posted on 01/15/2009 9:26:22 AM PST by the Real fifi
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To: HD1200
I think you're right, although I predict Geithner himself will withdraw his name over the weekend, citing the chaos with Citigroup et al as the reason he does not want to put the country through drawn-out confirmation hearings.
23 posted on 01/15/2009 9:56:41 AM PST by utahagen
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To: org.whodat

We may not need the Republicans to have cajones in this case. Dems and Reps are playing it safe so they can’t be accused of deep-sixing Geithner, and the MSM are being their usual biased selves. However, yesterday’s NYTimes editorial was bad news for Geithner and may indicate that, behind the scenes, political and media support for Geithner are not strong in light of what has come out. With Citigroup in free-fall and Bank of America having real trouble with its Merrill merger, the US economy is in a parlous state. If Geithner’s confirmation hearings next week catch the public’s attention, the average Joe may start making noise about why he (Joe) would be called a thief for not paying taxes, while Geithner is made Secretary of the Treasury despite doing the same. If Geithner thinks he may be humiliated next week, he may take himself out of the running over the weekend “for the good of the country”.


24 posted on 01/15/2009 10:07:00 AM PST by utahagen
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To: utahagen
With Citigroup in free-fall and Bank of America having real trouble with its Merrill merger,

Derivatives!!!!

However, Citibank was only the third largest holder of derivatives as of June.

Who were number 1 and 2?

JP Morgan holds around three times more derivatives than Citigroup. And Bank of America is number 2.

As Martin Weiss, PhD writes:

Bank of America was a somewhat bigger player, holding $39.7 trillion in derivative bets, with 93.4% traded outside of any exchange.

But JPMorgan Chase was, by far, the biggest of them all, towering over the U.S. derivatives market with more than double BofA’s book of bets — $91.3 trillion worth. This meant that JPMorgan Chase controlled half of all derivatives in the U.S. banking system — a virtual monopoly that tied the firm’s finances with the fate of the U.S. economy far beyond anything ever witnessed in modern history. Meanwhile, $87.3 trillion, or 95.7% of Morgan’s derivatives, were outside the purview of any exchange.

One bank! Making bets of unknown nature and risk! Involving a dollar amount equivalent to six years of the total production of the entire U.S. economy! In contrast, Lehman Brothers, whose failure caused such a large earthquake in the global financial system, was actually small by comparison — with “only” $7.1 trillion in derivatives.***

At Bank of America, the [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] calculated that, at mid-year, the bank was exposed to the tune of 194.3% of its capital. In other words, for every $1 of capital in the kitty, BofA was risking $1.94 cents strictly on the promises made by its betting partners. If about half of its betting partners defaulted, the bank’s capital would be wiped out and it would be bankrupt. And remember: This was in addition to the risk that the market might go the wrong way, and on top of the risk it was taking with its other investments and loans***

And if you think that’s risky, consider JPMorgan Chase. Not only was it the largest player, but, among the big three U.S. derivatives players, it also had the largest default exposure: For every dollar of capital, the bank was risking $4.30 on the credit of its betting partners.

Someone will be along shortly to tell you the melt down is the fault of CRA. Sure it was!!!!

25 posted on 01/15/2009 10:16:45 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: the Real fifi
Yes, according to yesterday’s NYT about 50% of them

Thanks for answering my question!

26 posted on 01/15/2009 10:30:52 AM PST by syriacus
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