Skip to comments.Bush and the Libby Pardon
Posted on 01/15/2009 7:10:03 AM PST by meandog
As the curtain closes on the presidency of George W. Bush, the one loose end dangling is the pardon of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. In 2007 Mr. Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, was convicted for perjury and obstruction of justice.
Let us be clear about the Bush legacy. After September 11, not a year into Mr. Bush's term, his became a war presidency. George Bush's place in history will turn on what becomes of Iraq and al Qaeda. If Iraq fails, history will mark down the Bush presidency. If by fits and starts Iraq grows into the Middle East's first large, functioning democratic republic, a more likely result, the Bush presidency will be one of the great building blocks of the new century's political order.
In his final press conference Monday, Mr. Bush described the disarray after the airliners slammed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field: "People were hauled in front of Congress and members of Congress were asking questions about, 'How come you didn't know this that or the other?'"
The Bush team righted itself and assembled a tough response to the attack: the assault on the terror strongholds of Afghanistan and the Patriot Act. Then, in astonishingly short order, the political unity of 9/11 dissolved. Mr. Bush and his team found themselves embattled by the opposition party, much of the Beltway press corps and a leaking national-security bureaucracy. The goal of the domestic opposition was to thwart the Bush antiterror policy, or take down the people shaping it.
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Mighty big "IFs"
“the one loose end dangling is the pardon of I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby”
Bull. Ramos and Compean deserve it more.
Yeah, Scoot should get a pardon, but Ramos and Compean DESERVE a Medal of Freedom, not jail time.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, dynachrome.
“Medal of Freedom”
and we know who just got one of those!
This commentary by Daniel Henninger in the WSJ is not about pardons, it is about crap that led to the attack and conviction of Libby. Libby should not have been convicted. Libby should be pardoned - and for the reasons cited by Henniger.
Sure, Ramos and Compean should be pardoned, but that is not what this commentary is discussing. We here on this forum should understand that.
I left a comment on the article at the site. The moderator there probably won’t approve it.
Implies there are no other loose ends. Sloppy writing or....
No one else could have done the job Bush did. No one.
Bush is plagued by the McCain pathology. I had a grandfather who reflected this same sickness. He was generous to a fault to strangers and miserly to his family. Bush rewards his political enemies but conflicts his allies. All in the name of compassionate conservatism.
They messed up, bigtime:
Shooting at the felon was not out of order, but they are in jail for LYING about it.
Lying under oath, or in your statements is punishable, often with jail time.
It’s a pity they did wrong.
That said, there is NOTHING barring President Bush from pardoning them and recommending re-instating them to their original jobs. Scooter should be released as well. He was guilty only of being in the wrong place when a partisan committee went utterly rogue.
José Alonso Compeán is a former United States Border Patrol Agent, convicted of shooting an unarmed, illegal alien drug smuggler on the United StatesMexico border near El Paso, Texas, on February 17, 2005 and “obstructing justice by willfully defacing the crime scene”.
General regulations regarding the submission, consideration and award of pardons are set down in Title 28 of the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, Sections 1.1-1.10. The regulations suggest a five-year waiting period (after conviction or the end of incarceration) before a person becomes eligible to apply for a pardon,
After a long investigation, Justice Department prosecutors determined that Berger only removed classified copies of data stored on hard drives stored in the National Archives, and that no original material was destroyed. Berger eventually pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material on April 1, 2005. Berger was fined $50,000 , sentenced to serve two years of probation and 100 hours of community service, and stripped of his security clearance for 3 years. Berger also relinquished his license to practice law. 
What about the margin notes! You know, those handwritten little "over-the-transom" messages from Tricky Billy that set the unoffical but more important-to-follow-not-for-public-consumption-policy?
Honestly,the misinformation some people try to pass off...
Speaking of which, concerning Ramos & Campean:
(1) they didn't break laws, but adminstrative procedures, and there is some question as to even that.
(2) Sutton moved to suppress vital information about the veracity of his star witness, in a friendly court. This incl. lying to the judge. Why did he feel the need to do that?
(3) unarmed? Prove it! The "victim" managed to cross the border after he was hit, and presented himself several days later. How many days to dump a gun?
There's alot more, if you're really interested in the truth. Go and find it yourself: people always value what they've found themselves more than what's just handed to them.
You really need to find a more accurate source than wikipedia. Try going to the source documents, and your accuracy will improve. Of course, that might impede your purpose...
“Implies there are no other loose ends. Sloppy writing or....”
The Bush administration is one big loose end...
“Ramos and Compean deserve it more”
I second that!
Ditto, re Ramos and Compean.
At his final press conference, Bush virtually wagged his finger at the majority of Americans who adamantly oppose Shamnesty. *He’s* angry? Try ME! I’m absolutely furious with Bush and his arrogant stubborn anger. I’m livid regarding what he tried to do to this country vis a vis the illegal aliens, and twice so for his anger towards *us* who opposed him.
The miscarriage of justice regarding Ramos and Compean is glaring, as these two men and their families continue to needlessly suffer. Will Bush do the right thing and show mercy to these brave men, or will he persist in his perverse stubborness?
They are two different matters, you’re right. But Scooter is free, and Ramos & Compeon are rotting in prison, in danger every day. It’s hard to find the Scooter situation very relevant while the situation continues.
There’s no reason Bush can’t do both.
“Theres no reason Bush cant do both.”
Agreed. If Bush does not pardon Ramos & Compeon he will forever be an enigma with many of us on this website. Pardon them, and his esteem here will rise significantly.
To those people who want to scold me because, "Bush kept us safe all these years". If any of you are employers, I need a job, and I can do much better than 50% job performance.
I'd love to believe otherwise, but I suspect that GWB's stubborness about the border has let hundreds if not a couple of thousand Jihadis setup shop on our soil. From captured documents we've found the Jihadis are targeting our porus border because it makes it easy.
Yes, yes, "thousand" seems an exaggeration, but look at the magnitude of the numbers we're dealing with & remember, when its bad news Gov. under-reports. The pro-amnesty people themselves estimate 20million illegals. What percent is 1k or 2k of that?
Add GWB's need for "bipartisan love" which in this case expressed itself in such PC-ness as ignoring the protests & warnings of danger from other flavors of Islam to cozy up to the most violent form of the religion.
Armed w/WH approval, they've expanded their reach and used WH favor like a club to force compliance from the other sects.
Then there's the "Saudi Express" visa program. When it was exposed, it was temporarily discontinued because of heat from the Citizenry. Now other programs with the same effect have replaced it, and the whole "keep terrorists out" thing had become somewhat of a joke. Unfortunately, that joke's on us.
Anyway, to not go too far afield, I'm of the opinion that if Jihadis can stroll across the border because of actions you've rammed through or executive orders you've signed -- even if the flower doesn't bloom while you're on the job -- its still your fault.
So, I'll wait a few years to credit him with our safety. I think with the changes caused by PEBO, we won't have more than 3yrs before they start to show themselves.
But I pray that those who say "GWB has kept us safe..." are right!
I agree 110% with your post. You know as well as I, that some people on this site state the fact that Bush has kept us safe all these years. Being that they are FRiends, I don’t want to attack anyone for that because, truthfully he has. But his bipolarism with the border infuriates me among other things. I’m glad he’s gone. I realized when I voted for him twice that he was only a speedbump on the road to socialism, but I had hope. God be with us all.
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