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Europe Lost Culture, Values By Muslim Imperalism; Is US Next?
The Bulletin ^ | January 15, 2009 | Herb Denenberg

Posted on 01/15/2009 9:48:33 AM PST by jazusamo

Europe is already lost to a Muslim takeover and America has started down that same path. That’s the proposition persuasively made by Mark Steyn in his book "America Alone: The End of the World As We Know It."

Mr. Steyn notes that America and Australia “grew the institutions of their democracy with relatively homogeneous populations and then evolved into successful ‘multicultural’ societies. But the continent isn’t multicultural so much as bicultural. You have hitherto homogeneous Scandinavian societies whose cities have become 40 percent Muslim in the space of a generation. Imagine colonial New England when it was still the Mayflower crowd and one day they woke up and noticed that all the Aldens and Standishes, Cookes and Winslows were in their 50s and 60s and all the young guys were called Ahmed and Mohammed.

That’s what happened in Rotterdam and Malmo. There are aging native populations and young Muslim populations — If there’s three, four, or more cultures, you can all hold hands and sing “We Are the World.” But if there’s just two — you and the Other — that’s generally more fractious. Bicultural societies are among the least stable in the world, especially once it’s no longer quite clear who’s the majority and who’s the minority — a situation much of Europe is fast approaching, as you can see by visiting any French, Austrian, Belgian, or Dutch maternity ward.”

Europe is losing the demographic war to an Islamic takeover and it is also surrendering bit by bit. Again, Mr. Steyn summarizes perfectly:

“And sometimes, as in the United Kingdom, they talk about defiance and the old Blitz spirit, but they make a thousand trivial concessions day by day. That’s how great nation’s die — not by war or conquest, but bit by bit, until one day you wake up and you don’t need to sign a for mal surrender because you did it piecemeal over the last ten years.”

Here’s an example of that bit-by-bit surrender of a culture and of national values. Anne Owens, Her Majesty’s chief inspector of prisons, banned the flying of the English national flag in prisons because the Cross of St. George, in that flag, was also used by the crusaders, and hence might be offensive to Muslims. The same ban went into force at Heathrow Airport and in the offices of the Drivers and Vehicles Licensing Agency.

Mr. Steyn has a whole book chock full of examples like that, which added together make the case that Europe is already gone, defeated by Islamic imperialism, and America better watch its step as it may not be far behind.

But it is not just Islamic imperialism that has taken Europe down the drain and that is threatening similar problems in America. We may be in the midst of a cultural transformation that may be changing America, as we know it. That broader analysis appears in a piece titled “The Ghost of America Yet to Come” by Craig L. Parsh all that appears in Israel My Glory (January-February 2009), a publication of the Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry.

Mr. Parshall went to Europe to promote some of his books that had been translated into the Dutch language by a publisher there. But he also found that the Netherlands might be the ghost of an America to come if the present trends continue. Mr. Parshall said he went to Europe knowing the Netherlands sanctions homosexual marriage; euthanasia; hate-crime laws that threaten to intimidate the church into silence on such subjects as homosexuality and criticism of Islam; and legalized prostitution and “soft drugs.”

In the “red light” district of Amsterdam, prostitutes openly display themselves in front of plate-glass windows. Coffee shops dot the streets in most cities where coffee is not the main attraction but what in America would be illegal drugs. The Netherlands fostered mercy killings for years and finally became the first nation to legalize euthanasia. It is also the land of same-sex marriages. In addition, surprisingly, the Netherlands and much of Europe have porous borders if not quite an open-borders policy.

This is all paradoxical because at the same time what Mr. Parshall calls “an innately repressive religion” is becoming an increasing demographic reality. Six percent of the population is now Muslim. This has all fueled the application of hate-crime laws.

While Mr. Parshall was there, a Dutch cartoonist who drew some cartoons critical of Islam was under government investigation. Police raided his home and seized his computer. If convicted of a hate-mongering, he could get a sentence of a year in prison … for what a free society would classify as an exercise in the fundamental right of free speech. Another example involved a Christian who criticized homosexuality during a news interview, and was therefore subjected to a government investigation.

Mr. Parshall attaches importance to the timing of some of the new laws. Prostitution was legalized in 2000. Homosexual marriage was approved in 2001. Euthanasia was approved in 2002. These laws were passed during a period when for the first time in a century Christian Democrats were not in the coalition government. That party was mainly populated by Christians from the Dutch Reformed Church. Mr. Parshall concludes, “Admittedly, the Netherlands had been facing an onslaught of liberal legislation and cultural decay for some time. But the dam broke, so to speak, when Christians were silenced.”

Dutch Christians told Mr. Parshall that they lost their voice when they became embroiled in disputes over worship styles and even had disputes over which hymns to sing during Sunday services.

Then Mr. Parshall suggests the Netherlands may be signaling the church of America yet to come: “The parallels between the Netherlands and America are obvious. Both nations are Democratic republics based historically on strong Christian foundations and heritages. The Netherlands housed the Pilgrims in Leiden until they finally set sail for Plymouth to the New World. When America fought for its independence, the Dutch extended us essential economic credit. Our histories, in many ways, are inexorably connected.”

Mr. Parshall argues that the devastating cultural and spiritual state of the Netherlands ought to be a wake up call to America. He likens it to Dickens’ famous Christmas story and its ghost of Christmas yet-to-come. We already have the emergence of homosexual marriage and proposals for hate-crime legislation.

Congress came close to passing hate-crime laws that some critics feared would muzzle any criticism of Islam or homosexuality. There is also a beachhead of euthanasia laws and proposals and laws to legalize some drugs now illegal. In addition, we have porous borders and the newly empowered far left-wing of the Democratic Party is pushing for open borders. A further drag on our culture is the media’s glorification of the single mother rather than the traditional two-parent families.

Mr. Parshall concludes:

“The only real hope for America is a vibrant church of Christian believers who will be both ‘salt and light.’ But at the same time, the only hope for the church is an absolute commitment to God himself in a radical, transformational way and a total commitment to the absolute inerrancy, inspiration, and authority of the Word of God. Only then will Christian believers be able to resist the cultural and theological lies of our age — the ‘savage wolves’ that are increasingly being loosed upon us.”

I’d put a broader perspective on Mr. Parshall’s analysis. First, I think it is important to recognize that America still has a strong religious foundation and a religious people. In contrast, religion in Europe is fading away as is the power, importance and will of Europe. It is in the process of surrendering its values and culture to Islam. Perhaps Europe tells us to avoid their problems we should be sure and maintain our strong religious life.

Second, an even broader perspective may be in order. If America is to survive and maintain its glorious values and its historical strengths, its citizens have to remember who they are and what they stand for. Mr. Steyn says it’s a question of will and confidence in our own culture and values. Mr. Steyn writes,

“This book isn’t an argument for more war, more bombing, or more killing, but for more will. In a culturally confident age, the British in India were faced with the practice of ‘suttee’ — the tradition of burning widows on the funeral pyres of their husbands. General Sir Charles Napier was impeccably multicultural: ‘You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”

We need the same confidence in our culture that Gen.Napier had in his. We are losing that confidence. Part of the problem is multiculturalism, which says all cultures are of equal value. Mr. Steyn asks would you really want to live in a neighborhood where 48 percent of the people believed in suttee?

Mr. Steyn answers: “The rest of us — the ones who think you can make judgments about competing cultures on liberty, religious freedom, the rule of law — need to recover the cultural cool that General Napier demonstrated.”

As Mr. Steyn observes, suicide bombers are a weak weapon, but not if used against a suicide culture, one that doesn’t value and defend its own values.

Mr. Steyn says, “If one has to choose, on balance Islam’s loathing of other cultures seem psychologically less damaging than the Western elites’ loathing of their own.”

You would think that the answer would be easy. Any rational observers would be forced to conclude America is a great nation, perhaps the greatest in the history of the world. It’s not too much to ask that we recognize that truism, and end the almost psychotic hating of America that now infects so many of our colleges and our universities and our media. If we don’t believe in ourselves and our values who will? If we don’t defend our culture and our values who will?

Herb Denenberg is a former Pennsylvania Insurance Commissioner, Pennsylvania Public Utility Commissioner, and professor at the Wharton School. He is a longtime Philadelphia journalist and consumer advocate. He is also a member of the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of the Sciences. His column appears daily in The Bulletin. You can reach him at

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: america; denenberg; europe; islam; islamicimperialism; islamictyranny; islamineurope; theocraticrule
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1 posted on 01/15/2009 9:48:34 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Is the US next, well thats a silly question, when was the last time you checked the next presidents last name?

2 posted on 01/15/2009 9:50:12 AM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: Edizzl79

Beat me to it

3 posted on 01/15/2009 9:51:03 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: jazusamo
Scandinavian countries are 40% Muslim? Of European countries France has the highest % and that's something like 7.
4 posted on 01/15/2009 9:51:03 AM PST by Borges
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To: Neoliberalnot

LOL! That was break away slam dunk baby!

5 posted on 01/15/2009 9:52:32 AM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: Edizzl79

This is all being driven by oil money and environmentalism plus political correctness.

Some Brit here is FR pinned my ears back (correctly) saying at least we did not elect a Muslim president. Bin Laden must be dancing. The advanced shock troops from Somalia keep flooding in.

6 posted on 01/15/2009 9:52:39 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Edizzl79

Not too hard to figure out, is it?

7 posted on 01/15/2009 9:53:29 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Borges
From the article: "Scandinavian societies whose cities have become 40 percent Muslim..."
8 posted on 01/15/2009 9:54:05 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: jazusamo

Where it will end:

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal. Easter celebrations are illegal. It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the “holy” muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.

Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith (up to and including death). Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.

Northern Cyprus - About 133 churches, chapels and monasteries have been converted to military storage facilities, stables and night-clubs. Seventy-eight churches have been converted to mosques, and dozens more are used as military facilities, medical storage facilities, or stockyards or hay barns, according to statistics from The Republic of Cyprus. Agia Anastasia Church in Lapithos was converted into a hotel and casino, while the Sourp Magar Armenian monastery – founded in the medieval period – was converted into a cafeteria.

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution. The country has passed the “Regulation of Religious Practice” law, which stipulates a punishment of two to five years’ imprisonment and heavy fines for anyone convicted of urging a Muslim to change his religion.

Syria - The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim and specifies that Islamic jurisprudence is a principal source of legislation. Sharing your Christian faith is discouraged as “posing a threat to the relations among religious groups” and carries a penalty of up to life in prison. A Christian is not allowed to proselytize – ever. Churches who want to hold an extra service must get a government permit. Sermons are routinely monitored, as is church fundraising.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.

Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain. Also, if any criminal Muslim rape with any Christian female and then take plea that she has accepted Islam and marry with him. Such person is not culpable under Pakistani criminal law

Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.

Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and—in the most extreme application—death. In a country where Muslims account for more than half of the population, conversion from Islam is punished with a 5-year prison sentence and a $3,000 fine. A Malaysian Muslim who marries a non-Muslim and who converts the non-Muslim to Islam is rewarded with an apartment, a car, a one-time payment of $2,700, and a monthly stipend of $270.

The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.

England - Bradford, Yorkshire, UK. Pop. 300,000 - 20% Islamic. Local police required to tell community elders the location of girls who run away to escape arranged marriages. Bars and liquor stores in the Lumb Lane / Manningham Lane area of the city ‘requested’ to close on Fridays. Schools, colleges, and health clinics have to have separate areas for women, with a copy of the Koran available. Public critcism of Islam or it’s adherents, such as letters to the local paper, emails to friends, speeches etc, can and has led to criminal charges ‘Using words intentionally and wilfully to cause fear, hate, or distress. Christmas decorations not to be put up, as this may make the Moslems feel ‘culturally overshadowed’. Shops ‘requested’ not to display easter eggs for the same reason. The term ‘requested’ means not legally enforceable but local police warn that they cannot intervene if your premises get ‘damaged’ somehow. Local councillors and MPs have encouraged all this for the past 15 years. Bradford Northwest MP Ann Cryer regularly appears with long sleeves and her head covered. She once stated that women in Islam are properly liberated and that Islam is an example to us all.

9 posted on 01/15/2009 9:59:22 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: jazusamo

US not next, US is nearly after the fact..todays’ piece at The American Thinker outlines the subversion of the Army War College to Islam...

10 posted on 01/15/2009 10:00:51 AM PST by givemELL
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To: jazusamo

“The only real hope for America is a vibrant church of Christian believers who will be both ‘salt and light.”

Yea, I gotta wall mural of that ever happening!

11 posted on 01/15/2009 10:04:11 AM PST by glide625
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To: jazusamo

Muslim immigration is not what is killing Europe. Europe has been on life support since the end of the Second World War. It started dying after the First World War.

12 posted on 01/15/2009 10:05:43 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: 2banana

Thanks for your excellent post. The last paragraph for England blows my mind.

13 posted on 01/15/2009 10:06:02 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: givemELL

Yes, read about that yesterday. Another whack job professor, hopefully he’ll get booted.

14 posted on 01/15/2009 10:10:13 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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15 posted on 01/15/2009 10:13:35 AM PST by marron
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To: jazusamo
Funny how the Left is all concerned about indigenous peoples when they aren't European.

They oppose Western cultural hegemony but openly welcome Islamic imperialism in the name of “tolerance and diversity” but the Islamic empire is intolerant of non-muslim traditions (there is no religious freedom in the Islamic tyranny of Saudi Arabia, capital of the Islamic empire).

16 posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:50 AM PST by weegee (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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Exactly and any member of the left would most surely be put to death for practicing “tolerance and diversity” in an Islamic country. They are not the brightest of bulbs!

17 posted on 01/15/2009 10:42:51 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Unless several decades of Islam pandering by Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II are ended - YES.

Drink your beer, dance, pet your dogs, eat your pork, and watch those babes in bikinis and miniskirts now - while you can.

The only good news is we can keep our guns.

18 posted on 01/15/2009 10:45:45 AM PST by ZULU ( God, guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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Is the U.S. next, is a damned silly question. We've been in this line and taken our ticket long ago, and far more than half our populace can't wait for this Koolaid.

Black is white, good is bad, cold is global warming, and apparently there is such a thing as a “free lunch”.

The shining city on a hill was just a mirage.

We're doomed.

19 posted on 01/15/2009 10:48:33 AM PST by Carl from Marietta
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The only good news is we can keep our guns.

That may come to be the reason we won't be next.

20 posted on 01/15/2009 10:49:56 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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