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Our First FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged
A Publius Essay | 15 January 2009 | Publius

Posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Publius

Over the past few weeks, Ayn Rand’s classic, Atlas Shrugged, has been mentioned in articles in the Wall Street Journal and among conservative and libertarian bloggers. Two questions are being debated by those who have read the book.

  1. Are we living in a time line that follows the book?
  2. What chapter are we in?

Besides those who have read the book, there are FReepers with little awareness of Rand and her work. Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction. Some of a more religious bent have problems with Rand’s atheism. Some wish she had left the few sex scenes out. Some just think she’s a bad writer.

I would like to propose our first FReeper Book Club effort: A chance for a group of us to read Atlas Shrugged together, both old hands and newcomers to the book. Once this effort settles in, I or others might want to start FReeper Book Clubs dedicated to Forrest McDonald’s States’ Rights and the Union, or Alexis de Toqueville’s Democracy in America. I like the idea of an interleaved reading of both the “Federalist Papers” and “Anti-Federalist Papers” together in strict chronological order so as to see the point and counterpoint of the debate over the Constitution. I’ve picked Atlas Shrugged for starters because it’s a hot topic and it’s fun. Once we get into the habit of reading and discussing together, we can tackle the heavier stuff.

The book is divided into 30 chapters. I propose to post a thread on one chapter every Saturday, which would make 30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book. I’ll provide a short synopsis of the chapter, expound on certain themes and raise questions to stimulate debate. If FReeper Book Club members feel that a faster pace is better, we can settle on one.

Atlas and Me

I came to Atlas Shrugged via the usual method: I read it in high school. The bully who sat behind me and enjoyed pounding me at the Catholic prep school I attended in New Jersey exposed me to the book by hitting me on the head with it. Its weight made an immediate impression. Our sophomore English teacher was not teaching the book, and he suggested that the bully pound me with something of lesser weight, such as The Red Badge of Courage.

The English teacher panned the book, stating that it was the kind of book an immature person might enjoy, but a mature adult with experience of the world could not take Rand seriously. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were not realistic.

The vice principal, a priest from Brooklyn who believed in FDR, JFK, LBJ and God, in that order, excoriated Rand for writing “an anti-Christian epic” and broadly hinted that the bully was sinning by reading it. Better to hit someone over the head with it. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were evil.

I read the book anyway.

The Strange World of Atlas Shrugged

Rand’s book was written between 1945 and 1956 and published in 1957. During the postwar years, America saw massive changes in society and technology, and the shape of world politics shifted mightily. None of this is reflected in the book. Some of the differences between Rand’s world and our own are rather egregious and require comment.

The easiest way to explain these anomalies is to say that Rand lacked the scientific background to project technological change and simply dealt with the technology of her era while projecting political change. But then how did she project the use of ultrasound for Project Xylophone and the holographic projection that protected Galt’s Gulch? There is a strange mix of the old and the new. What marks a total departure from our reality is the change in politics and in the American character.

One can accept all this as artist’s license, but I tried to come up with my own logic for how Rand’s America came to this pass.

Alternative History: Trying the Harry Turtledove Approach

If one wanted to create an alternative history for the universe of Atlas Shrugged, one could start with the 4-way election of 1948. In this alternative history, Henry Wallace won the race, defeating Truman, Dewey and Thurmond, establishing a Labor government on the British model in America. The warning voices of Martin Dies, John Bricker, Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon were stilled.

Wallace wanted no cold war with the Soviets, and with the quick withdrawal of American forces from Europe, Germany was reunified under a communist People’s State government. The Soviet Union, now the People’s State of Russia, never geared up for war, settling instead for passive mediocrity. Britain never rejected Clement Atlee, and with the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a written constitution on the German model, the People’s State of England replaced the United Kingdom. In France, De Gaulle never came to power, and the Fourth Republic morphed into the People’s State of France.

In the Western Hemisphere, figures similar to Fidel Castro established the People’s State of Mexico and other communist countries in Central and South America.

America did not go all the way to People’s State status, however, although intellectuals worked hard toward that end. Instead, America became a gray, downtrodden country accepting an atmosphere of sad decay, much like England today. Americans accepted that things were hopeless and that nothing could be done. Feelings replaced facts. The very nature of reality was questioned.

It took only a decade of economic stasis, misguided politics and cultural pollution to create the hell described by Rand.

Some Thoughts on the Movie

A scriptwriter would have a hard time shrinking the story to fill a two or three hour time slot even if all the long speeches were eliminated. A miniseries for television would have served the book better.

This effort would be a production designer’s dream. I would point to John Vallone, who handled production design for Walter Hill’s 1984 classic, “Streets of Fire”. Vallone created a fascinating mix of Fifties and Eighties that had no parallel in real time. Something in the same vein would make the movie memorable, rather than setting it in the present or a future that looks like the present.

Let’s Get Started

I will build a ping list for our FReeper Book Club, so sign in on this thread. I’ll use the keyword “freeperbookclub” to mark these threads as they are posted.

Welcome to our first effort. Prepare to read and discuss.


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To: suthener

Are you in?


61 posted on 01/15/2009 11:10:13 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: BARLF

I wish they would let me in


62 posted on 01/15/2009 11:11:13 AM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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To: GOP Poet

Are you in?


63 posted on 01/15/2009 11:11:20 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: Publius

put me on the ping list


64 posted on 01/15/2009 11:11:25 AM PST by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Army Air Corps

THE POLITICS OF ECONOMIC DESPAIR, by Robert Gellatley?


65 posted on 01/15/2009 11:11:36 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: Publius

I’d like to be on the book club list!


66 posted on 01/15/2009 11:11:48 AM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: Publius

Interesting. My own personal take on the technology of AS is that it was set in the 30’s and is a commentary on the inevitable outcome of New Deal type policies. That it came out in the mid-50’s is unfortunate timing.

FWIW, although I have read it, a less daunting manner in which it can be experienced is the Modern Library audio book version (still hefty) read by Edward Hermann, hits the high points pretty well.

There is a unabridged audio version out there as well, but 37 cassettes!


67 posted on 01/15/2009 11:12:54 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: AmericanGirlRising

I think so.. don’t remember the book being red/blue though... it was rereleased?


68 posted on 01/15/2009 11:13:48 AM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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To: Publius

Ping please.


69 posted on 01/15/2009 11:13:52 AM PST by BruceysMom ("Where knowledge is folly...")
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To: Publius
What chapter are we in?

In the sequel - if there had been one

70 posted on 01/15/2009 11:14:29 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Publius

yes. but I might be off and on.


71 posted on 01/15/2009 11:15:20 AM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Are you in?


72 posted on 01/15/2009 11:15:20 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: Publius

Please put me on the list, as long as I don’t have to actually READ Galt’s long speech at the end. I’d rather do 100 pushups; it would be easier to get through.


73 posted on 01/15/2009 11:15:43 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Publius

Add me, just finished it and would love to discuss.


74 posted on 01/15/2009 11:15:51 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: maine-iac7

Are you in?


75 posted on 01/15/2009 11:16:36 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: Publius

Many times in the past a FR book club has been tried. Your approach sounds like it might make it. Sticktoittiveness seems to make a big difference.

I read Atlas in high school and again a couple of years ago. Atlas needed a cutthroat EDITOR.

Would be pleased to be added to your ping list....


76 posted on 01/15/2009 11:17:10 AM PST by WHATNEXT? ((Are they going to call him Mr. or Pres.?))
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To: Publius

Guess I could start on ‘Atlas’ a third time. Just got busy and never finished it ... twice! I’ve read ‘The Fountainhead’ twice and absolutely love that one.


77 posted on 01/15/2009 11:17:30 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: GeronL

Perhaps it has been re-released:

# Publisher: Doubleday (June 3, 2008)


78 posted on 01/15/2009 11:18:04 AM PST by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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To: Liberty Valance

You can enjoy it by marking and skipping the soliloquies.
Go back and read them when you’re done.


79 posted on 01/15/2009 11:18:33 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Publius

Life-imitating-art-before-they-both-die ping!
I’m in. Read it several times over the years. Time to start living it now.


80 posted on 01/15/2009 11:18:37 AM PST by Starfleet Command
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