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Genetic secrets from Tassie tiger (new talk on bringing extinct thylacine back to life)
BBC News ^ | Jonathan Amos

Posted on 01/15/2009 4:33:01 PM PST by presidio9

Scientists have detailed a significant proportion of the genes found in the extinct Tasmanian "tiger".

The international team extracted the hereditary information from the hair of preserved animal remains held in Swedish and US museums.

The information has allowed scientists to confirm the tiger's evolutionary relationship to other marsupials.

The study, reported in the journal Genome Research, may also give pointers as to why some animals die out.

The two tigers examined had near-identical DNA, suggesting there was very little genetic diversity in the species when it went over the edge. I want to learn as much as I can about why large mammals become extinct because all my friends are large mammals

Professor Webb Miller

Although it was hunting that finally drove the Australian animal out of existence, its longevity as a species may already have been fatally compromised, the researchers believe.

The lessons should not be lost on modern conservation efforts, the team says.

"Looking at the genetic diversity in a population is a key marker for endangerment and it should be used to assess the urgency of preservation," Professor Stephan Schuster from Penn State University told BBC News.

Recurring theme

The Tassie tiger (Thylacinus cynocephalus) was dog-like in appearance and striped like a big cat - but in evolutionary terms, it had little in common with either, and was more closely related to kangaroos and koalas.

Wild thylacines were present until the early 1900s; the last known captive specimen died in Hobart Zoo in 1936.

Its recent demise, and the existence of several well-preserved specimens in museums, has led many to speculate that the animal might be the best extinct candidate for attempted resurrection through new molecular science techniques such as cloning.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cid; cryptozoology; godsgravesglyphs; intelligentdesign; playinggod; tasmaniantiger; thylacine
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"However, I am expecting that publication of this paper also will reinvigorate discussions about possibly bringing the extinct Tasmanian tiger back to life," Professor Miller added.

1 posted on 01/15/2009 4:33:01 PM PST by presidio9
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To: SunkenCiv; pcottraux

If you know who is running the cryptozoolog list these days, this definitely belongs there.


2 posted on 01/15/2009 4:35:41 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

That would be interesting.


3 posted on 01/15/2009 4:36:48 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: sionnsar

The first time I saw a picture of a thylacine (30 years ago when I was a kid) I immediately dreamed of the day when they would clone the thing and bring it back to life. One day there will be a zoo of extinct animals, like this one and the mammoth. It will be in Orlando, and it will cost about $200-500 to get in for the day, and everyone will have to wear hospital masks every where they go, but I’ll definitely check it out.


4 posted on 01/15/2009 4:44:44 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

Rumor and some supposed sightings suggest the Tasmanian Tiger may not really be extinct.


5 posted on 01/15/2009 4:48:02 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: presidio9
Ha - me too!

Is it me or does the thylacine have a bit of an odd stance? Not dog, not cat, but maybe a bit like the Tasminanian devil? (Haven't seen a picture in some time...)

6 posted on 01/15/2009 4:49:02 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: sionnsar
The stance is related to being a marsupial.

And, yes, it's closely related to the Tasmanian Devil.

7 posted on 01/15/2009 4:50:35 PM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.)
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To: presidio9

Looks more like a dog than a cat—even a hyena.


8 posted on 01/15/2009 4:50:36 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: presidio9; dragonblustar

Thanks presidio9.


9 posted on 01/15/2009 4:55:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: DallasDeb
I thought hyena briefly, but...

Not much like the Tasmanian devil:


10 posted on 01/15/2009 4:56:00 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: DallasDeb; sionnsar; Publius
Looks more like a dog than a cat—even a hyena.

More closely related to a wallaby or a koala than a dog, cat or hyena. Its closest relative in this hemisphere is probably the opossum.

11 posted on 01/15/2009 4:56:05 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: sionnsar

The tylacine's most discinctive feature was its gaping mouth.

12 posted on 01/15/2009 4:59:33 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

“Nice doggie....” LOL


13 posted on 01/15/2009 5:04:10 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: PLMerite

that’s true...

‘Sighting’ Of Tasmanian Tiger Sparks L1.2m Bounty Hunt
The Telegraph (UK) | 3-4-2005 | Anna Gizowska
Posted on 04/02/2005 5:47:25 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376341/posts

The Return Of The Tasmanian Tiger
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf043/sf043p08.htm

Tigers in western australia?
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf046/sf046p10.htm

Extinction Discounted
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf069/sf069b06.htm


14 posted on 01/15/2009 5:05:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: sionnsar

Um, when you call him a “doggie,” I’m pretty sure it makes him angry...


15 posted on 01/15/2009 5:06:59 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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16 posted on 01/15/2009 5:07:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: presidio9

Wow!

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/thylacine/index


17 posted on 01/15/2009 5:09:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: presidio9
Um, when you call him a “doggie,” I’m pretty sure it makes him angry...

LOL, well I'm sure not going to say, "Nice kitty!" and I'm sure as h*ck NOT going to say:

"Hey, tiger!" *\;-)

18 posted on 01/15/2009 5:10:29 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: DallasDeb
Looks more like a dog than a cat—even a hyena.

aka "Marsupial Wolf", a case of Convergent Intelligent Design.

19 posted on 01/15/2009 5:10:45 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: sionnsar

I found a picture of a tasmanian devil for comparison. You'll note that the tongue did not protude nearly as much on the thylacine. Still they are close relatives.

20 posted on 01/15/2009 5:11:49 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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