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The Wiretap Vindication
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Posted on 01/16/2009 8:44:47 AM PST by nuconvert

Ever since the Bush Administration's warrantless wiretapping program was exposed in 2005, critics have denounced it as illegal and unconstitutional. Those allegations rested solely on the fact that the Administration did not first get permission from the special court created by the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Well, as it happens, the same FISA court would beg to differ.

In a major August 2008 decision released yesterday in redacted form, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, the FISA appellate panel, affirmed the government's Constitutional authority to collect national-security intelligence without judicial approval.

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For all the political hysteria and media dishonesty about George W. Bush "spying on Americans," this fight was never about anything other than staging an ideological raid on the President's war powers. Barack Obama ought to be thankful that the FISA court has knocked the bottom out of this gambit, just in time for him to take office.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; fisa; privacy; wiretap; wot

1 posted on 01/16/2009 8:44:47 AM PST by nuconvert
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I'm sure this will be a big story on all the new programs.... NOT
2 posted on 01/16/2009 8:46:01 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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*news programs


3 posted on 01/16/2009 8:47:13 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

another non-issue for the left. Concern with wiretapping mass murderers, but mum about surveillance cameras on every corner. How stupid to ignore the forest and feign concern about a few twigs.


4 posted on 01/16/2009 8:50:51 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: nuconvert
The UnAmerican Democrat Party, and their MSM, betrayed President Bush, our missions in two war theaters, our military, and their country.

They deliberately aided and abetted our enemies, with boots on the ground.

I hate them with a passion....I will work for a lifetime to destroy each one of them, as will my children and their children.

5 posted on 01/16/2009 8:51:59 AM PST by roses of sharon ("No socialist system can be established without a political police.", Churchill -1945)
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To: nuconvert

I like how as Obama has learned of all the top secret insider information that he’s backing off his campaign promises more every day. The media (obviously) won’t be touching that either.


6 posted on 01/16/2009 8:52:16 AM PST by TheZMan (Troll since 2004, apparently.)
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To: nuconvert

Of course.. Obama will continue W’s course of action and no one will be the wiser.


7 posted on 01/16/2009 8:52:42 AM PST by tje
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To: tje

GMTA


8 posted on 01/16/2009 8:53:10 AM PST by TheZMan (Troll since 2004, apparently.)
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To: nuconvert

Most will never know..Another victory for the whinny left. Make a big deal about it, get the dumb ass public to think Bush is bad and then when know one is watching, the truth comes out. Bush was within his rights. Most will think Bush was wrong for the rest of their life.


9 posted on 01/16/2009 8:53:11 AM PST by blueyon (Every one will have their 15 mins under the bus)
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To: nuconvert

Bush derangement syndrome will be endemic in the left for a least another decade. This decision if it makes the news will only serve to inflame the left even further.


10 posted on 01/16/2009 8:56:23 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: nuconvert

Its fun watching internet kooks at various sites try to spin this into ANYTHING other than a serious beat down on their oft expressed views.

Same clowns that try to say the 2nd Amendment doesn’t really ‘mean it’ in my experience.


11 posted on 01/16/2009 8:59:50 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: roses of sharon

I’m with you all the !


12 posted on 01/16/2009 9:02:34 AM PST by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: nuconvert

“In a major August 2008 decision released yesterday in redacted form, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, the FISA appellate panel, affirmed the government’s Constitutional authority to collect national-security intelligence without judicial approval.”

I thought the timing of this release was suspicous...any legal mind want to tell me why they waited five months after the fact to release this??? why not before the election??


13 posted on 01/16/2009 9:02:56 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: nuconvert

Just plain old common sense tells you this is a necessity. It’s called “spying”...Something recognized by all nations.


14 posted on 01/16/2009 9:03:06 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: nuconvert
Nancy will make it illegal and "Leaky will spread the word
15 posted on 01/16/2009 9:06:32 AM PST by Foolsgold ("We live in the greatest country in the world and I am going to change it" Barry O'boomarang 2008)
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To: nuconvert

The 0bama administration should monitor emails and phone calls from national security threats like The New York Times, pMSNBC, and the LA Times.


16 posted on 01/16/2009 9:07:58 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: nuconvert

So the Slimes and its left wing allies won’t be able to call it “domestic spying” any more.

That’s too bad. They pushed this lie over and over and over.


17 posted on 01/16/2009 9:08:36 AM PST by romanesq
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To: romanesq
Now the Democrats are in charge, I wonder who will be listening in on me.
18 posted on 01/16/2009 9:19:31 AM PST by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: nuconvert

They ripped President Bush for this while he was using it to DEFEND the people of this nation...

Now, ...ohhh!! It’s okay to wiretap... Just in time for obama to ABUSE it -far beyond what Bush was accused of, I’ll bet.


19 posted on 01/16/2009 9:19:41 AM PST by J40000
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To: Pontiac
Bush derangement syndrome will be endemic in the left for a least another decade.

They've had the the exact same syndrome for every Republican president since the 50's.

20 posted on 01/16/2009 10:08:18 AM PST by T. Jefferson
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To: oyez

Not to worry, Pellicano, the Clintons all-around dirty worker is in the slammer.
Got nailed plying his trade with one too many Hollywood folks.

But hey, not to worry if others take his spot on behalf of the Rats.
The media says it’s fine because of their good intentions. If it’s intended to enhance or keep them in power, then it’s no problem.

That’s how the standard works. Then if a Republican is at the helm and tries to use it for national security to gain intel on terrorists outside the country, they’ll go back to calling it “domestic spying.”

See how nice that works.


21 posted on 01/16/2009 10:10:16 AM PST by romanesq
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To: Neoliberalnot
another non-issue for the left. Concern with wiretapping mass murderers, but mum about surveillance cameras on every corner. How stupid to ignore the forest and feign concern about a few twigs.
It should be noted that the court ruled on whether the wiretap program was legal or not, not whether or not the program was a good idea.

People can disagree with the wiretap program while admitting its legality.
22 posted on 01/16/2009 11:05:23 AM PST by dbz77
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To: dbz77

Who goes to court to get their feelings on if it’s a good idea?
Either it’s legal or it isn’t.

That’s what the court’s job is.


23 posted on 01/16/2009 11:55:28 AM PST by romanesq
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To: nuconvert
Latest heard from the DemonRATs

NO! NO! NO! NO!


Pres. Bush was right on the FISA!!!

24 posted on 01/16/2009 2:29:38 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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