Posted on 01/16/2009 8:01:30 PM PST by lonestar67
Right and NRO does not account for non-discretionary spending in that number which means the data I provide is indeed correct: less than 3 percent— less than inflation.
Ridiculous.
The Kool aid analysis is for the group.
NO ONE DEFENDS BUSH.
Hello.
I am alone. No one defends Bush in budget. There is no kool aid. Anyone who thinks Bush is good on budget and economics is a lonely fool.
Nonetheless, I do think that the Bush bashers ALL of them are wrong.
Bush constrained all forms of spending— except the military— far more than Gore, Kerry, McCain, or any forseeable president.
- China knocking our spy plane out of the sky
- the 9/11 gimme fund and related expenses
- aid for the Tsunami
- cost of hurricanes katrina\rita\wilma etc...
- all humanitarian aid (Somalia etc)
feel free to add to the list
I just don't see the excellent economic leadership in tax cuts then authorizing $700B in corporate bailouts.
Yes, you are alone.
Even on FR.
That ought to tell you something.
Where did I say that he was a criminal?
"You disagree with him on minor poitns that you convert from molehills to mountains at a whim."
No, I have disagreed with President Bush on major points. I convert nothing ... you assume alot.
"Conservatives lack backbone."
First, you speak of conservatives as though they are a group separated from you, so you and I argue from a totally different perspective to begin with. That probably accounts greatly why I don't worship Bush as you do. Secondly, I don't compromise my core values and beliefs, and especially won't do so for political reasons.
I'm going to stop responding to your screed at this point, because it has little to do with me and I'm not chasing you down these rabbit trails.
Your entire statement is a lie, or at the very least, disinformation.
President Bush campaigned on SS reform during BOTH of his campaigns for the presidency.
Strengthening Social Security for the 21st Century February 2005
. After his 2004 win he went on a 60 cities in 60 days tour.
The demonRATS held a presser in front of some statue of their hero, FDR, to call President Bush every name in the book. They blatantly lied to the American people about what the President wanted to do.
AARP spent millions of dollars on an ad campaigns to distort the President's intentions and again blatantly lie to the American people, particularly senior citizens.
The so-called republicans in CONgre$$ did not support him and began joining the demonRATS in oppressing his call to fix SS.
Try researching before embarrassing yourself with dishonest proclamations:
President Bush on Social Security
President Bush's radio addresses
See 12-11-04 through 2005.
Your entire statement is a lie, or at the very least, disinformation.
President Bush campaigned on SS reform during BOTH of his campaigns for the presidency. He discussed SS reform extensively until all efforts were thwarted by CONgre$$ and special interest groups.
Strengthening Social Security for the 21st Century February 2005
. After his 2004 win he went on a 60 cities in 60 days tour.
The demonRATS held a presser in front of some statue of their hero, FDR, to call President Bush every name in the book. They blatantly lied to the American people about what the President wanted to do.
AARP spent millions of dollars on an ad campaign to distort the President's intentions and again blatantly lie to the American people, particularly senior citizens.
The so-called republicans in CONgre$$ did not support him and began joining the demonRATS in opposing his call to fix SS.
Try researching before embarrassing yourself with dishonest proclamations:
President Bush on Social Security
President Bush's radio addresses
See 12-11-04 through 2005.
Your entire statement is a lie, or at the very least, disinformation.
President Bush campaigned on SS reform during BOTH of his campaigns for the presidency. He discussed SS reform extensively until all efforts were thwarted by CONgre$$ and special interest groups.
Strengthening Social Security for the 21st Century February 2005
. After his 2004 win he went on a 60 cities in 60 days tour.
The demonRATS held a presser in front of some statue of their hero, FDR, to call President Bush every name in the book. They blatantly lied to the American people about what the President wanted to do.
AARP spent millions of dollars on an ad campaign to distort the President's intentions and again blatantly lie to the American people, particularly senior citizens.
The so-called republicans in CONgre$$ did not support him and began joining the demonRATS in opposing his call to fix SS.
Try researching before embarrassing yourself with dishonest proclamations:
President Bush on Social Security
President Bush's radio addresses
See 12-11-04 through 2005.
No, you are not alone. Many of us have simply got fed up with the BDS here on FR and have left or simply quit posting.
Thank you for this thread and thank you for defending OUR President. Many of us appreciate it a great deal.
Then you need to address those that keep bring it up. However, an investigation would have been doing something instead of fiddling.
Like other Bush haters you simply ignore the evidence and repeat your claim.
The fact that your view is more popular does not mean it is factually correct.
I have proven you and the other detractors wrong on this thread time and time again.
You simply keep repeating your Bush bashing talking points.
So what.
It is the Bush bashers who are traitors to the Conservative cause.
If I were not so disappointed and disgusted with President Bush, I might not be as harsh as I tend to be. While my comment on the 2-3 speeches was exaggeration, in 2005 President did precisely what has become his hallmark ... allowing the democrats define an issue. All of the "political capital" that he was going to spend came out to be only spare change on the SS issue. I specifically mentioned the '04 campaign because I couldn't remember what the heck he campaigned on in 2000 and I really try not to 'lie'.
That is the way I see it. I was extremely disappointed. You obviously disagree. As they say, your mileage may vary.
Oh, and thanks for all of the links to the White House website to back your contentions on how hard President Bush worked on the issue.
discretionary non security spending was held to less than 3% per year-- from 2001-2009.
The thing is, when you're spending hundreds of billions in Iraq and Afghanistan and adding new Medicare entitlements a decade before Social Security starts running a deficit, maybe you should try to hold discretionary, non-security spending flat. Or maybe try to cut spending, instead of signing every pork barrel stuffed budget the pigs in Congress put on your desk?
He was too busy trying to be friends with everyone. How'd that work out for him?
Very nice! Your previous statement does not require me to "grow mentally" nor does it have anything to do with agreeing with me. FACTS are facts!
You stated:
President Bush campaigned for his second term on reforming SS and then, after winning, made 2 or 3 speeches on the subject and let it die.
You gave no source for your statement. I gave you ample information, all sourced, proving your statement was a lie, or misinformation. You come back with a personal insult.
The lowering of FR standards continues. *sigh*
If you don’t like the ‘standards’ here, I’m not gonna miss you a bit. In all of my years here, I’ve seen many a RINO and compassionate conservative come and go. Take care.
Oh, was that was going on. He was trying to be friends with everyone so he held spending to less than 3% increases.
here’s a question. Did the Congress ever argue that Bush was cutting or not spending enough?
Answer: Yes!
This is how we know he held the line.
Hey, how did Gingrich’s budget showdown with Clinton built upon your political premises work out?
More info for those interested in the strengths of Bush’s fiscal record:
Reduced the growth of non-security discretionary spending from a
rate of 16 percent to below the rate of inflation. Inherited non-security
discretionary spending at a rate of 16 percent growth and brought it down
to under three percent growth, which is below the rate of inflation.
Saved taxpayers nearly $40 billion over five years through sensible
•
entitlement reform and by terminating and reducing ineffective Federal
programs. Enacted the Deficit Reduction Act, which reduced the annual
growth of mandatory spending and will save approximately $300 per
taxpayer.
He was trying to be friends with everybody, so he refused to veto bloated budgets.
Did the Congress ever argue that Bush was cutting or not spending enough?
How did Bush cut? By allowing earmarks to explode? How is emergency spending counted? As discretionary spending? Non discretionary? None of the above?
Hey, how did Gingrich’s budget showdown with Clinton built upon your political premises work out?
Do you think Gingrich could have cut spending with a Republican president? Do you think Reagan could have cut spending with a Republican house and Senate?
LOL! That's funny.
Saved taxpayers nearly $40 billion over five years through sensible entitlement reform
How much does the new Medicare prescription entitlement cost per year? How much does the illegal invasion cost per year?
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